Rage Joe: The Beautiful Sound of fellow students
I began to kind of hate Leicas already during my photography studies, when some idiot fellow students who hardly did any shooting were going: "listen to the beautiful sound of that leica-shutter".
A little bit of Rage:)
Lets face it, Leica is just for the snobs and the insecure.
I have to say Rage Joe has some EXTREMELY GOOD POINTS THERE!!!We could be lead to a a completely different idea with his first post, a bit like the leica lovers spoke against him: with no valid logical arguments!BUT his second post spoke two EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POINTS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BAD IN LEICA M!!! We can even see M users going to Fuji PRECISELY because of that!!!
whoever says that SEEING WHAT YOU ARE PHOTOGRAPHING is not important probably should just give away all his equipment and stop saying ANYTHING about REAL Photography!...But naturally those trolls who act like they were payed by this OR that camera maker will keep acting like ones without even a SECOND THOUGH!!!
It is really a PITTY! :/And mostly for them! (but also for those they attack with nonsense and false arguments!)
david kohn: a camera for the Romney family....
Yes! Keep politics OUT of dpreview!
nawknai: The sad thing is that there's nothing "Hasselblad" about this product. It's a Japanese guy in Swedish clothes.
You may argue that Hassy are, like Leica, one of the few photography companies that can pull off selling a $6000 mirrorless camera, but Leica can because Leica make Leica cameras, and they exist mostly in their own Leica bubble and come up with products that they like and understand. They are auteurs. While everyone else is involved in pushing the market, pricing their products in tiers that align with their competitors, engaging in price wars, and coming up with features that out-do their competitors, Leica is just making high quality stuff that they enjoy using. People like small-scale individualism, whether it's a small business on Etsy, or an old camera company.
Hasselblad is a photography company, but this product does not clearly have Hasselblad's fingerprint deeply engrained, and so it won't be deemed worthy of its price tag.
Nawknai, your first post was just perfect! No need to say anymore, anyone informed and that like to think understood it! :)
berze: Check out lensrentals:http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/09/product-announcement-lensrentals-looney
THANK YOU for showing it to us!!!
VERY VERY good!!! :D
The guys at lensrentals are REALLY GOOD!!! :D
a mirrorless APS for $6500?!?!! :OGold?wood?
Please, give me a break!!!
it's a shame people in m4/3 don't think more out-of-the-box like Olympus did with the f2.0 lenses, why such a short zoom? this is NOT 135format! Things ARE DIFERENT, and they should take the oportunities to make them BETTER by using the smaler format advantages!!!But they mostly keep going to the SAME OLD VALUES, like 2.8Xzoom etc etc.
FTW: The body sells 2099$. At that price, the D600 is a better deal
nellydesign: its purely a markting question!!! Otherwise it would be better then 5mkIII for studio&many others like interiors etc
UAU! a camera that is LESS in almost every important thing then ALL the others!And yes, ALL photographers were dying for wi-fi instead of a flash (that controls others!) or some 11 CROSS AF points!!!Maybe in next model they will put an MP3 player and loose ISO manual control!!! X(
Canon user since my first lens in98. But they sure are making an effort to se me changing for nikon! ):(
geoffreyc: This has made my mind up - I'm getting another 7D!
Only useful feature for me is the addition of GPS - price of that (GP-E2) + 7D body + grip still cheaper than 6D and my 100-400L will have more reach than using on FF body.
NOT if the same ppl will be in charge at Canon: I expect already:- no flash- SD cards only- new smaller and worst battery- less cross AF points!- Same LOUD shutter
The A-Team: I'll probably get this camera, but it would have been nice if it had the following features:
- APS-C lens compatibility- Swivel + touch screen- built-in flash w/ speedlite control- AF during video (ala Canon 650D)
Otherwise, I don't mind the simplified 60D-like body design and the 11 AF points. I only use the center point anyways.
A-TEAM: I agree with EVERYTHING, except the AF points!
Edmond Leung: It seems full frame is already the trend...Yesterday was Sony...Today is Nikon...Where is the low-priced "full frame" for Canon and Pentax?I'm doubt how long can 4/3 stay in the market.4/3 and APSC may be faded out very quickly.
sure! try to make a ff as small&light as a m4/3!!! Especially the lenses!!! Sony is an EXXXCEEEEELENT exemple on that!!! ;)
bradleyg5: Canon 5d mark II is still the cheapest full frame camera available. This has got some clear feature advantages, but the shutter is only capable of 1/4000 and rated to be less durable.
I don't think Canon needs to respond to this, the 5dII is already sub 2k if they can get the price down to 1700 it's more than enough to compete with this.
no need for progress??? :o
sure! the sutofocus in 5DII is AMAAAAAIZING!!! the construction also! etc etc!!! Give me a break! -_-
JazzMasta: Nice job Nikon! Full-frame to the people! As a Canon user, I can only hope Canon and others will join this trend.I really hope this camera becomes a huge success, so it pressures the other vendors to follow.
yep, i had hoped the same when sony did precisely this MANY years ago! :/
MAYBE now, since it's nikon! canon will wake up from theyr stupidity and canibal markting strategies!!! We can always hope!!! :)
shahid11235: A full-frame D7000.. That's all.
Don't get me wrong, D7000 is a great camera. I hate stupid "Scene modes" and missing AF-micro adjustment on a FF $2000 camera.
Even the D7000 has AF micro adjustment as well as Canon 7D.
I MUST agree with the micro adjustment!!!(i guess nikon didn't want to completely screw canon... and their own 800 sales!)
Don't wake up Canon...
Peiasdf: I think Pentax should really really get working on a FF camera. 645D is good but D800E is matching it in IQ and far exceeding it in practicality.
Pleiasdf: I was going to press like when i realised u were speaking about ff35mm!If they did that probably they would loose (one of) the best relation quality-price of theyr dslrs.What we need here is a FULL FRAME 645!!! :D (costing the same as a dslr so i can afford it ;I
Edmond Leung: This just reflects how poor is the development of the lenses for M43. The reality is lens selection for M43 is very limited, especially the high-end tele lenses.It's a shame to those camera manufacturers who just know assembling cameras but without satisfying the needs of their customers in the demand of lenses.That is the reason why do Canon and Nikon can be so successful in acquiring the majority of the camera market. Because they care their customers' needs; they are not just camera makers, they also produce a complete line of lenses for their customers.Who will buy a camera without the support of lenses? A fool may!
Canon what?!? Edmund Leong.For sure u have not seen what they did lately!!! (AND, I AM A CANON USER from the start!!!)Long lenses??? maybe Olympus have the only "300mm" f2 in production!!! maybe they have the only ever"600mm" equivalente opening at f2.8!!! And theyr quality? JUST TALK WITH ANYONE WHO USED THEM!!!!! EVEN NIKON FANATICS PRAIZE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mschf: Hello?? Where are the *decisive moments* in the vast majority of these entries? I see nothing Bresson-like in any of these shots, let alone anything remotely meaningful.
wow! what an amazing expert we have here!!! :OI found SEVERAL IMAGES ALMOST A photo BASEd ON SOME OF THE MOST PUBLISHEd OF HIM!!! (And i mean BOOKS!!!)Even if it was just for Foto n4 alone! It is an amzing one!!! And i'm pretty sure HCB would have like to see it if not MAKING IT!!! So, i ask you again: HOW CAN U SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT mschf???
PS: BUT i confess i do like ur second coment!!! :DBut what can we o if ppl like cute children; their animals to death! and things like that!!! ;)It's sooo much worst that they like some proven corrupted politicians or to figth an hurt others with excuses like football!!! So maybe we can let it slide with a smile...a smile almost like HCB style!!! ;)
PEACE&NICE Photos!!! :)
canon goes WORST&WORST!!! :(
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