goshigoo: Can anyone tell me the reason for getting these lenses?Is 40-80 mm f/4.0-5.6 @ 645 equivalent to 25-50mm f/2.8-4 @ 135 FF ?
Why don't you just get a Canon 5D III + 24-70 f/2.8L??
Goshigoo - around here there are so many trolls and blind fan-boys that it´s VERY easy to get misunderstood! When you are indeed asking something you better make that clear from the start (as you did understood! ;) ). From my own experience, i can tell you that for instance a very (EXTREMELY i should say for MF!) 75mm f2.8 normal lens for the Pentax 645 gives you MUCH BETTER quality wide open then MOST 50mm f1.4 for 35mm! Naturally excluding the Zeiss Otus AND the new Sigma 50mm Art! But those are VERY recent and really game changers! Before them pretty much all 50mm f1.4 sucked in definition wide open! (for example the canon Usm 50mm f1.4; nikon f1.4 (even worst! don't know about the latest one, but it should be quite similar!) and even the lovely old manual Olympus OM(actually sometimes better at f1.4 then the canon... in canon bodies!!!). To be honest sometimes i like the ... (continues bellow)
CameraLabTester: Both Sony models exhibit unsalvageable blown out highlights at 6400 while the 5D Mark III renders them with rich detail, same both in RAW or in JPEG.
Look at the arches sculpture on the lower left of the tower at 6400.
Back to the drawing board, Sony.
Rishi Sanyal - Well done: It takes a Real Man to acknowledge his mistake and try to make it better!
I must say it was a most refreshing change from latest official feedback by dpreview!
Maybe there is hope after all! :D
Keep up the good work! :)
forpetessake: I would guess comments/forums increase web site traffic manifold. Traffic translates into ad revenues, amazon sales, etc. Kill the comments and you kill the site.
Dpreviw wants the readers to engage, but it stays that way: no answers after the readers engage!!! «I see what you did there! ;) »
zkz5: These comments are actually only equivalent to f/5.6 on a full fr... er... wait...
zkz5: GENIOUS!!! XD
TheProv: Please, add to the comparison an aps-c or a u4/3 with 18-200/14-140 lens!
agree, but if possible with a 18-300 or even better; THE 16-300!!!
Preatty please with sugar on top!!!
Spoff: This site should take these photos down. Would they post them if they were of people manipulated in such a manner against their will? They are in bad taste. I have no issue with heavy photoshop work but hurting beings to get a picture simply has no place here.
YES! THEY ARE!!! NO MODERN ZOO is made without DEEP concern for the animals well being!!!
PS: the argument that we eat animals is just plain... i will stop here!
bjhk: Assuming some photographers (group 1) can take photos similar to #12 without torturing/killing any animials.Assuming some photographers (group 2) can take photos similar to #12 by torturing/killing some animals.
In order to avoid copy-cats using the bad methods of group 2 photographers. I sincerely invite the smarter photographers in group 1 to share the secret. Although it will make those photographers lost some tangible benefits, however, the intangible benefits will be irreplaceable. At least, I will try my very best to promote that smart methods are originated by you and that you are the group 1 photographers. I believe most readers here will do the same.
Until then, I will try my best to anti-promote this kind of photos as I believe most copycats will use group 2 methods. I will also invites all readers here to do so.
I will also urge DPR to urge those smarter photographers to share the secrets. Otherwise, I still prefer DPR to remove at least some photos such as #12.
Well said Bjhk!!! :D
You certainly silence the trolls! ;)
nordin seruyan: aku mencoba berbagi rahasia dalam memotret yang aku lakukan. aku berharap ada yang sudi menerjemahkan isi video dan keterangan video ke dalam bahasa Inggris. Video ini merupakan potongan dari acara mata lensa di ANTV yang ditayangkan bulan April 2013 yang lalu. Dengan alasan tertentu, aku baru mengaploud sekarang dan akan segera menghapusnya dalam waktu 2x24 jam dari sekarang. terimakasih
ini link nya : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-J6cQjW66E
Interesting that he took the video down... you only hide something...when you have something to hide! -_-I hope he is not one of those so called photographers that puncture and spread the limbs of small animals open so they look funny in the pics and then clone out the string in Photoshop so ppl don't know they tortured the animals! :L
clicstudio: Somehow Philip Askey's comment and my reply have mysteriously vanished…Hmmm… Dishwasher "news", few reviews and now, censorship…Way to go DPR.
Really? dPREVIEW just sunk to new level! :(What a pity! It was my favourite site... long ago when they produced reviews(not Previews!) in a more timely manner! :/
WAY too go dpreview!!!DO bring us more quality reviews like this one!!!My bad that i did not understand this was the new methodology of dpreview/u tube!TODAY I finally understood the real name of the site: dPREVIEW! There is absolutely no emphasis in full, timely reviews as it was in the past!Sad news for me and quite a few others, i guess i will follow their advices and when i need to see any new lenses and or cameras reviews i will just go to other review sites and come to dPREVIEW instead when i feel like watching fanboys of brand A being bashed by fanboys of brand B and those by fanboys of band X! Or AMAZING reviews like this one!!! I hope one day dPREVIEW will have also videos of cats refusing to have a shower: it can be truly hilarious and I DO LOVE CATS!!!
Higuel: What a royal CRAP!!!To think i come to dpreview thinking about learning something about a camera (like for instance... let's say... Oh! a REVIEW!) or at least some (INTERESTING!) article about photography! and i almost lost 4minutes of my life watching this...I cannot help but feel a bit sorry for whoever thought that «the resulting video is surprisingly entertaining»?!?!Man, maybe you need to start thinking about better uses of your time, but FOR SURE YOU CAN start right now thinking better about better things to show on dpreview, last time i checked, it was (still) not just one more personal blog in the vast Internet!!
Dearest Rolfens: I am very sorry to use more words then you were able to read without getting an headache! The second part of the text was way more positive the the second, and that was the reason i wrote it! BUT i forgot about Ur prejudice! May your intelligence rest in peace!
2- As you can see dearest Rolfens, we have quite similar point of views, now go and buy yourself a nice mirror so you can give a good look at yourself BEFORE criticising OTHERS! And while you are at it: a history book to see what it REALLY means Freedom of expression and ALL THE BENEFITS FROM IT!!!
PS: if the Reading is not to your liking feel free to have a photo Holiday in such democratic countries as North Korea and Russia, i think you will find them and their rules for press PRETTY MUCH to YOUR LIKING and opinion!
If you want to address me demanding respect please DO REMEMBER that "RESPECT IS SOMETHING YOU MUST HAVE BEFORE YOU GET!"
PS: In case you still didn't realise: capital letters are used to convey MORE emphasis to special parts of the text, you know: as in BETTER communication! If it aesthetically causes you to dislike, well sorry about that! I think there is too much testosterone here: If i could i would buy you a beer&try to speak in a better way!
@ Dear Rolfens: Since your point drifted away from the topic discussed here: what the hell is a lazy person that does not use the Internet to research for anything instead of harassing others who believe in free expression?And, dear Rolfens, what you are doing is the equivalent of screaming and borders harassment. You can have your opinion but nobody asked you for it and you're expressing it out-of-topic in multiple seemingly aggressive posts - but not using caps lock all over the place because you don't know how to express yourself that way! I would not expect Henrique to spend much time bothering with answers to such a know it all Mr Right as yourself because i have learned it is quite pointless, just like they say: "Haters are gonna hate!".And it is quite obvious what is your position! It's nice to give a frank and uncensored opinion but somehow guys who cannot handle other opinions say «it has to stop, too much is not good»And i agree with you!!!
@ Barney: Point taken! If you think it could be productive, i am all for a positive conversation!Indeed I agree that maybe it will be more productive that way.My only question to you is if you think you are really interested in such conversation??If i didn't managed to make you understand my idea.... Let me know what you think.
CONT@Mr Editor Barney: ...
But you are the boss editor in a VERY successfull site, so why should you listen to me? or even a few many more who actually took the time to express the same?!Well, maybe IF being the editor in the truly BEST review site was more important to you then the Google statistics or the Money it makes, maybe then you would show some consideration and positive thinking about it.In fact, if one day this question will cross your mind, you just need to see how MANY links to OTHER SITES&ARTICLES dpreview readers mention to the other readers in here so that they can FIND THE INFORMATION THEY WERE LOOKING FOR ...in here!NAAAAAAA! Who I´m I kidding?!? JUST keep doing exactly the same as you are doing now! Evolution&progress is for the week!
And a truly nice «?» for you too Barney Britton!(i hope it would mean that you are thinking about it, but unfortunately, i guess that would be too much to ask for...)
You know Barney Britton, I am temporarily living in Poland because i was invited to help in the development of the most advanced 360&background removal brand in the world. So that peculiar strategy of "i don't understand"is quite used by the other photographer on the firm, obviously along with all the other"politically correct" strategies that you seem to also be quite good using.It is INDEED a shame that the main Editor, the guy who is «in charge» of such a promising site as Dpreview turns out to be so closed to their reader's opinions!You know, there is a BIG difference between a "most popular site" and "THE BEST REVIEW site", like Dpreview used to be. I know that obviously the site has become very big and you cannot please everyone, but just like another reader of Dpreview pointed out several months ago: «It is a pity that Dpreview is devoting all that effort and energy to their e-shop instead of making new reviews on time as it did in the past!»
But you are the boss editor in..
@ Barney - With due respect: After your previous comment I honestly did not expect you to be truly interested in what the readers of dpreview might say, as such, obviously you had to ignore what me and a few dozens expressed here alone (not to mention MANY other posts!). Its basically a question of Ego: if you have to be right(!) you could never open your mind to other point of views, so naturally, You bring the politically correct answer with superficial pseudo-information just as useful as "if you don't like dpreview nobody forces you to read it!"There are obviously way too many who like that approach, so i am afraid i cannot even give you any price for originality! I can only hope that the rest of Dpreview staff has a more professional and open-minded attitude! Do you know Barney, CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is precisely that: CONSTRUCTIVE! And believe it or not, more evolutionary minds actually find it VERY POSITIVE!
Have a Nice weekend!
There is no versus nothing debate Rolfens: We all have the right to our own opinion! Didn't you just use that right?Fell free to watch the video AGAIN&AGAIN for all i care, i REALLY wish it will give you lots of joy!If you ever feel the need for more of «this video and how "entertaining" it is» i am sure you will be able to find a lot more to your heart's content at utube!I, and MANY OTHERS EXPRESSED OUR OPINIONS how it looks out of place in a site that we considered somehow more informative then youtube! But if the majority thinks like you well then by no means: turn dpreview to youtube2 and Forget camera reviews all along while at it! In that case i just think the name dpreview does NOT apply anymore!!!
@Barney Britton II -
Don't get me wrong: for MANY YEARS i took Dpreview as THE source of information for camera's reviews!!! And recommended it to literally everyone, EVEN a University teacher (because of your REALLY GOOD and original test on the Foven sensor Vs a Leica and another camera!) But UNFORTUNATELY for the last year or so it sens that the site is loosing his edge. As big fan of the site: I regret that!And if you like to read what is written around here, you know very well i am not alone!
And The only reason i comment this is because i am really not looking forward to stop being one! I do admire (and feel VERY grateful for) the site precedent work!!!
@Barney Britton - If you are trying to be sarcastic, well you got it! Good for you! However i did expect way more from Dpreview! I come into this site almost from it's start! And although i do like that dpreview becomes a bit more diversified in it's articles, the MAIN reason i come here is to see...TCHARAAAAM!!! YOU GUESSED: REVIEWS!And, since i suppose you know more then i do about it, i guess you can have an even better notion of how many cameras were NOT reviewed in this site even 6months after they are reviewed in other sites! Not to mention many that even if highly considered here still were not reviewed even in one year after their announcement in this site!
I am obviously(!) not speaking about all cameras released, but certainly the most awaited ones SHOULD BE REVIEWED! AND if possible in the first months after their announcement/release!If paper magazines can do it WHY NOT AN INTERNET SITE?!? Maybe because you are being sarcastic to readers???