Images by Kipper: Is this the work of the poster? The description would indicate that it was taken by Mr. Bruno Battaglia and if he is not the person who posted the image then it should be removed from voting.Please clarify the situation as I really like this image, but can not vote on it at this time.Thanks ~ Kipper
@wilbegonia: I would agree deeply with you, however after reading what he wrote, i think mmodena was honest and did NOT pretend to be the one who make it. So i don't fell like any problem. And honesty should always be rewarded! ;)
Have a good weekend!
007peter: (head shaking) I cannot believe the words coming out of this mouth! He just confirm 3 fear:- Canon P&S will forever stuck with lousy 1/2.7" sensor- APS-C camera has no FUTURE- Canon 70d will be release BEGRUDGINGLY, no 80d in the future.
I will sell off every one of my EF-S lens now. Heck, I might as well just switch to Nikon now.
i understand ur fears 007Peter!!!we can only hope canon wakes up in time!!!
dpLarry: The future is 2/3".
Please josh152 leave Bobbarder in peace! He spoke what SO MANY MORE PEOPLE WHO BUY APS-C AND 4/3 AND M4/3 and now even mirrorless APS-C think and feel! I don't know ANYONE who actually wants to carry a 600mm!!! But i sure know A HUGE AMOUNT that whant that reach!!!I understand your preference for FF, i really do! But you should respect other opinions and choices also! :)
Stephen_C: So, no 7D MKII in the works? Sad really.
If they want to leave that market for other companies... :LWell i guess pentax will be more then happy to fill that gap!!!
Marty4650: Maeda is on the right track when he says 'The concept of the EOS M is to make an interchangeable lens camera as small as possible while retaining the quality we would expect.'
The point he missed is that people who want smaller cameras also want smaller lenses. Much smaller, in fact.
And this is why Nikon made a better decision by adopting a new (smaller) set of lenses for their smaller CX camera. Pentax made the same mistake with their K-01 (although they got it right with their Pentax Q.)
The advantage of having a smaller ILC camera is virtually erased when only one lens is properly scaled for it. No one really wants to walk around with a 70-210mm Canon L lens on a tiny camera.
canon should be ashamed to have a "system" with ONLY 2lenses and call it interchangeable!!!
Sony seams to being waking up from that dream in time, lets hope canon does the same!
peevee1: "However, he ruled out the idea of a larger sensor camera along the lines of the Sony RX100 to offer more of an image quality distinction between smartphones and compact cameras. 'I think the market does exist but it wouldn't be very large. We think we have a good balancing point in terms of price, image quality and size. Lots of other combinations are possible, but, once you go below APS-C the next logical size is 1/2.3 inch', he says."
Translation: "RX100 caught us with our pants down and we have nothing to offer and will not have for years".
GEZZZZUZZZ! ALWAYS someone begging for FF!!! o_OHow many of you ARE ACTUALLY BUYING THE RX100????
stop complaining and go out taking pictures with what you have!!!
Marty4650: The FF fans seem to think that image quality is the only concern for most camera buyers. No doubt, it is for them, but not for the mass market. The fact that so many people are happy with their camera phones proves that image quality isn't an overriding concern for the mass market.
I don't care how cheap you price a FF camera, it will always be a niche market item, and not a mainstream one. I haven't noticed any FF lenses getting any smaller, lighter or cheaper, and the whole point of interchangeable lens cameras is "changing lenses."
The same people who buy a Nikon D600 can probably afford a Nikon D800. A $2000 dollar camera is only a bargain when you compare it to a $3000 camera, not when you compare it to a $900 camera. Especially when that $900 cameras does everything you want a camera to do.
with the prices they are asking for the new FF lens capable of delivering the goods of a FF sensor for sure NOT everyone with APS will make the change!!! For sure i will not, and why would anyone would want to carry such big and heavy lenses if they could have them WAY SMALLER LIGHTER AND ABOVE ALL CHEAPER and doing basically the same?! (just compare 300mm f2.8 used with APS to FF used 400mm f2.8!!! AND YOU HAVE LESS REACH!!!... and PLEASE don't tell me the bokeh will be so very&extremely important -_-
ngollan: So far so uninteresting. A slow wide zoom and a purely professional lens.
I have been talking quite a bit with a friend who's going to get Canon equipment, and honestly, Nikon has a lot of catch-up to play when it comes to their lens lineup. There may be many great lenses, but there is, e.g., nothing to beat something like a EF 4,5-5,6/100-400 L IS USM, with the only remotely competing lens predating AF-S and VR.
There don't seem to be any modern lenses in the "amateur" telezoom range, and Nikon seem to have phased out interesting, differentiating, lenses like the DC primes.
All in all, I hope that they are going to use the 80th anniversary of the Nikkor brand to modernise their lineup and re-enter the market for affordable, interesting lenses.
ZAnton, i wish canon would improve their stinking 50mm f1.8 for something decent!!! I wish they make a 35mm DX f1.8 at he same price!!! Etc etc etc!The only crap canon did was creating new wide angle primes with IS and increase the price for DOUBLE!!! x_xIf only sigma would start making affordable lenses again! (not that i regret increasing the construction quality!!!)I wonder how much more those companies will keep inflating prices?!?!? :(
we can only dream someday samyang will put auto-focus in their 85mm f1.4 and create a smaller cheaper 35mm f2.0 or a 50mm f1.4 AF!!! XD
let's hope this will wake up (All) the brands that keep making smaller lenses but keeping the same maximum fstops!!!
(and maybe it would even stop the eternal argument about sensor size vs DOF! :D
gipper51: Released October 15...next year?!
Why even announce a product that's a year away let alone offer pre-orders ?
Then, probably, the text should be corrected.
fireplace33: Looks good!Some time ago my father made me a custom built adapter for just such a ultra wide angle lens. It has worked well!Anyone who wants to save a few pennies and is is able to do practical machine work themselves might be interested in the link of that project
Fantastic!Very well done! Compliments to your father!!!
Rick Knepper: If you want a $100 adapter for the Canon TSE-17mm (sans filters & holder), and wish to use Lee Filter products, here's a clever use of the $35 replacement lens cap for the 17mm and a Lee Filter ring adapter $79.
Nice! Thanks for sharing! :)
Couldn't agree with you more! :D
cjf2: Thanks, folks. It was taken of the Heber Valley Railway in Utah. It was only my second year of proper digital photography and I was still amazed I could take pictures on the wrong side for the light to aid composition and still be able to have more than a black blob in the middle of a slide. It still delights me!
I totally agree with you there!!! :)Don't get me wrong: i still love the slide colours! (But that hard contrast just kills so MANY possibilities!)Well done! great shot!Keep on the good work!!!
mckracken88: too bad the many added elements for VC will make IQ much worse than the nonVC version.
same thing with the 17-50.
and all just because Nikon and Canon wont put VC in their bodies....
do you know about the Olympus OM-D???
Photomonkey: My only observation is that when I owned the Tamron 28-75 2.8 ( good IQ, fair AF speed) it fell surprisingly short of its stated 75mm max FL . It seemed to be only about 65mm compared to the angle of view on my 70-200 Canon.
If this is similar, then the range is even more truncated. Of course I have no way of knowing but the true FL of any lens seems to rarely measured. In primes it may be less of an issue but it sure bothered me in that zoom.
ALL zooms are shorter! And actually you can see those measurements in the magazine Popular Photography! :)
I think the oficial rule is that it cannot be shorter more then 10% of the said focal distance. For instance, before 2005 (or so) all Zoons that ended at 400mm are in reality 360mm!!! :/(yes, ALL brands!!!)
Erik van den Elsen: I find this an awkward new Canon lens; I own the 24-105 F/4 L lens myself and find it very good, at least I have a very sharp copy. The current price of this 24-105 is now around 900 Euro.
So, why spend 600 euro more on a lens that has a much shorter range (24-70) but the same speed? Just because it has a Macro feature that you use every now and then? If you're really into macro, you will buy a dedicated Macro lens.
This lens sounds superfluous to me already from the beginning seen the rest of the Canon lens line-up and the range it offers... And this price is really rediculous! Much too expensive just like all other Canon lenses.
Hello Teila. I understand your point! However i do like to make portraits with just the face filling the frame! Have you ever tried to make a head-portrait with a 70mm???YEEES! people fell REEEEEEALY comfortable with those "many simple steps" you have walked towards them with a 77mm filter diameter lens towards... their face!!! ;)
Have a very good weekend!
Stephen_H: Sorry, I find this back to front and probably bad for the photographic industry.
I'm not a photographer, I'm a graphic designer and as such, I commission photographers fairly often. The whole point of commissioning a photograph is for the permanent ownership rights (rather than "renting" them from a stock image company).
If I have to find the photographer in ten year's time for further permission to use my/his photo, I might as well rent a stockpic from Getty images.
It is good you explain you are a designer, as someone who studied Design for 5years, now i understand you better, still, if your client has already decided EXACTLY how he wants a poster but hires you to do it because he doesn't know crap of pagemaker and photoshop. Should it be his name on the side of the poster as the designer???
I am TRULY shocked when anyone who is a creative does not respect the other creators credits and rights!!! :(
How do you fell when people hear you are a designer and say that you just draw in a paper what other's ideas are?Well, we photographers are NOT just a finger in a button and it is highly disrespectful to treat us that way!
Stephen_H: Just another thought, if I'm art-directing the photographer, how can the photographer claim to have created the image?
I've conceived the conceptI've chosen the message it needs to conveyI've set it upI've chosen the lighting schemeI've hired a stylist to fine tune everything else
All the photographer is doing is making sure that all my efforts aren't wasted by being technically skilled and proficient in his art.
If I can't to claim to have "created the image", then I'm going to give Nikon more credit for making the image than the photographer who trusted his light meter, followed the manual that came with his camera and pressed the shutter.
Perhaps there needs to be a distinction between commissioned commercial work where the photographer is just doing what he's told to do, and the more creative, self-inspired artistic photographs where the photographer has genuinely created everything in the final content?
Stephen, if you indeed created everything, DO THE PHOTO YOURSELF! :)
If you make a movie and tell a musician the kind of moody music you want for it, does it means you have the copyrigth of the music??? Did you really created it???
Don't get me wrong: if you had THE idea for the photo, obviously you are due credit for the concept!!!But it was still the photographer who made it! You were the creator of the concept, but he created the photo. Unless you tell me you hired some person retarded and told him/her to press the shutter!... -_-Clear?Imagine this case instead: You write a book. You make the argument for a movie, you even make the storyboard! And you even direct it!Are you going to take away the credits of the director of photography?????
I think fair is fair! :)
Have a good day! :)
Now we know in what company the guy that was fired from sigma for coming up with the original S1 price is working in!!!
For G*ds sake canon GET A GRIP!!!I never had nikon but with these prices i CANNOT stop looking at nikon!!!
how stupid is doing lenses that overlap with others while leaving others that could use badly an improvement or don't even exist???Like the 50mm f1.8 and a MUCH NEEDED 180-230€ EF-S 30mm f1.8 with a DECENT build quality! (my 50mm f1.8 that i loved SO MUCH optically- APART THE FLARE!- BROKE! It's 100% pure CRAPPY plastic!!! X(