I don't see it as an advert at all..it is just a "working" photographer who has found a set up that works for him. Positive testimony is not necessarily fan boy. Having said that we are all fan boys aren't we....go on admit it. May not be Apple ...might be some crappy old pc that works for you...great! Might even be a turntable from 1970 that plays those crackly old lp's but hey....;)
Criticism is so easy..I sometimes wish people wouldn't be so lazy and try something harder. Now if only Canon would bring out a 5D with Thunderbolt! :)
Rbrt: Hmmm... something about that picture....
What..all 700 of them.. ? :)
Digital Mike0697: If Adobe is trying to curve pirate coping of Photoshop or any other programs, why don't they do like Apple's itunes. For example, have reduce price for everyone who wants to use the program. Older members have $9.99 per month and newer members at $15 to $20 range per month. This will help Adobe cause in the end, by increasing membership, they are also increasing their profit margin. By not doing it, they are taking a huge risk and they might lose in the end.
But I will not buy Photoshop CC at $ 49.99 for new members, that is just wrong on so many levels.
As much as I support the model for older users I have always thought entry into the world of Adobe is expensive....they will not be able to continue that in the future and figures will show them that clearly .
The new cloud model will curb a lot of the previous piracy .... people mostly just passed around disks which don't exist now. Red Herring...the real issue is value for money and I can see adjustments need to be made by Adobe...Hello?. I don't feel sorry for those who pirated and got used to a great product and are now stuffed!
Dreadful communication skills on Adobe's part... I will restrain myself. Paul if you own one of the required Photoshops can you cancel your current CC package immediately and then just take out a fresh one on the new deal? They obviously have difficulty changing from one plan to the next... I can feel your frustration.
Severn Bore: When and where does this "offer" appear as there seems to be nothing on the Adobe website.
As it says above...the offer will be available when the new software comes out....soon. The good news is that those who are already on Photoshop CC will automatically get the bundle Peter....at least I think that is what they said?
Mark3M: I stopped renting years ago. I'm not about to begin.
Just checking.....Howard. Glad it has paid for itself...I hope you get some more gigs.
Better run along ....this thread will close soon and I notice I have another CC update....sure wish they would tell me what it is...I expect it is a new code (or whatever they do) to stop pirating...:)
If you went for the new bundle and they didn't raise the price you could have it for 80 odd years for the same amount you have already spent. Seems like you are going to miss out....;)
Curious why you bought Photoshop in the first place? $1000.00 including updates is a lot of money....
Howard I make my living and feed my children from photography. I regularly meet people like you who feel that somehow I should give away my pictures or a least offer a very cheap option. Each year I invest in the latest software, buy new equipment and pay for courses so that I improve my product. Why should I give away my work? Adobe is made up of people like you and I that go to work each day to earn a crust. I am not talking about the CEO just the ordinary guys who love their job believing that their innovation will help some photographer do better in business or just make better pictures. Adobe have the best product on the market at the moment and are selling it at a reasonable cost. I personally don't want it for nothing...I don't need to own it. It does more than I will ever be capable of and the upgrades always give me yet another tool or performance that I can actually manage and makes my life as a photographer easier. Thanks for the cheaper bundle Adobe it helps...
People dislike the concept of "renting"....poor people rent. Previous generations looked down on "renters" and "owning" became very important. Own your own home...car.... Bottom line in this situation for me is value for money. If Adobe hold the price as they say I will not pay any more than if I upgrade regularly under the old system (I did). So far we have had seamless updates...probably bug fixes and I must admit CC has been become the smoothest to date. Principle can be a fine thing but it can be misplaced. No doubt Adobe are in it to make money....who wouldn't be....long term they have no option but to keep ahead of the competition...they can not coast. If Adobe had a strong competitor they too would adopt the same sales model. I feel that the new bundle is very good value for what you get. I am not hung up on the issue of renting ...should the time come when I don't/can't pay I will downsize like I would if I could't pay the mortgage.
RossN: It's a good effort, yet very poorly executed. Adobe puts together a better (not great) offer to lure back users, but then limit the fanfare to a restricted set of users and don't commit to fixed pricing. It appears Adobe is going to play games with potential customers, ratcheting price back little by little, until they find the exact sweet spot where they can extract the most $.
It's pretty bad when they don't invite owners of prior CS suites (i.e. customers who spent more money with Adobe than those with PS, alone) to participate. This comes across as being more interested in earning a buck up front, than building a customer base.
Talk about souring a relationship with the customer. I'm sure there are a lot of potential customers they just excluded, such as me.
"This offer is available to customers who own a previous commercial version of Photoshop or Photoshop Extended, version CS3 or later (CS3.x, CS4, CS5.x, or CS6). Suites and volume licenses do not qualify."
Trust is gone.
Have you clarified this with Adobe? I would have thought they would let you have the CC Photoshop but not the whole Suite?
Paul Gath: Agree with most the comments here about the lock-in or else you lose access to the apps. What's doubling galling is that I have just paid for upgrades to CS6 and Lightroom 5 because I was never going to subscribe to their previous deal. Where is the incentive for me now?
"If you want to step down from a more expensive plan, Adobe says that you'll need to contact their Customer Service department and 'discuss transitioning to this new offer" Why not get in touch with them and let them quote you happy. I can understand they would not offer the full Suite for $9.99.... Let us know how you get on.
Are you expecting to get the suites and volume licenses for $9.99?
Confused here...do you really believe the new versions are no better than CS5? As for pricing schemes why would you complain about a company that has listened and brought the price down...Certainly the tone of the comments generally is that more people will now buy in. I would be careful about having a persecution complex... don't give anyone that satisfaction because at the end of the day only you carry that around. As for all those who now have CC...are you saying they are all fools?
AbrasiveReducer: I'm sure I can't live without it, but what's "Behance"? Is that the cute singer/actress? I understand Adobe for the Enterprise is for use in outer space but what is Behance?
Do some research...if you want a website it is pretty cool....
matt carson: I am a bit confused by the wording of the offer. I don't like renting software, but could probably live with $10/month, but are we getting rental access to PS CC's latest version AND Lightroom's latest version forever. The wording above is "That price will never change, as long as you sign up before the end of this year." So I suppose I am wondering in two years will I have LR7 and the most up to date PS CC or will I have LR5 or will LR5 no longer be supported and I will have LR7 but my cost will be $20/month. Will PS CC change its name to PS CC2 in a year and again my "subscription" be void cause it applied only to PS CC1? I think I could justify $120/year forever if I had the most up to date software forever, but is this the case. Also people are mentioning an inability to edit photos the did on PS CC if they stop paying, I am confused by that, can't you just save them as Tiff or jpg and edit them with other software if you decide to cancel PS CC? Thanks
Some good questions..in the past I have always been frustrated by the negative approach to dual platforms which seemed to have a "scxxw you" feel about it and the software was expensive to buy initially. Since I took up CC I have not felt that....especially as they are including present users in the new bundle. Upgrades historical did go up in price over time but there were no huge unmanageable jumps...I am more optimistic that prices will come down rather than keep climbing....but time will tell.
If you go to CC at least you have the latest up to date CS6 version which you can always keep. The new deal gives you the use of continually upgraded Photoshop , Lightroom and a free pro website at a long term fixed cost for the cost of a lunch in a Starbucks once a month. The good news is that those who already have CC will get the deal and who knows ...it just might get cheaper again.
At lot of the initial responses created all sorts of angst and panic.. Did the DPreview comments force Adobe's hand?....maybe. I suspect Adobe just want a higher uptake... particular those who might feel they are now missing out. Hopefully they will keep trying to price it till more and more like it....I think it will get cheaper (just a guess). Good news is that they pass on the benefit to existing users...
Gregm61: So, I guess those of us who bit at CC as a standalone app for 12 months at $9.99 cannot take advantage of this and will be raised in price after a year?
Think it says you will be upgraded to the new plan in the above txt. "Current ....................:)
Walter: Well we all know the rules... composition, focus, white balance...we can pixel peep all day and criticise but the one thing that stands out in good photographs is essence. There are so many sterile photographs these days that say absolutely nothing and along comes one ...perhaps by accident but if you don't get the message then ........ Soul comes to mind here .....lift the veil of technique from your eyes and you will know what I mean just like all those who voted this to number 1.
‘No new vision ....Historically art is full of pictures that have the certain something that is exhibited here. It has captivated people for years... I wish I had taken this picture... But then like most of us I would have swept the hair back off her face ...focused on the eyes...not cropped as tight on the right eye and .... lit it different. This is a soft picture and I agree the technique used is all over the place for me but.....the one thing he did get was the light in the eyes and I suspect once he had that everything else went out the window. "Windows to the soul" ....... I am slightly reminded of Steve McCurry's photograph of the "Afghan Girl"....
Well we all know the rules... composition, focus, white balance...we can pixel peep all day and criticise but the one thing that stands out in good photographs is essence. There are so many sterile photographs these days that say absolutely nothing and along comes one ...perhaps by accident but if you don't get the message then ........ Soul comes to mind here .....lift the veil of technique from your eyes and you will know what I mean just like all those who voted this to number 1.