blink667: Curious about the coming competition between the D750 and Sony A7II which has in-body stabilization and is $1000 cheaper with a 28-70mm.
I'm not defending A7II or D750, they are very different 2 cameras with different target buyers but with the price difference you can buy a Sony adapter and can use excellent Sony G and Zeiss lenses with image stabilisation. Yes there is size, adapter imperfections etc.. but it's there is you want to.Still, A7II is a very different camera from D750. If you are not after high performance (much better AF, faster operation, OVF - if you fancy, better ergonomy etc..), buy an A7II with 28-70mm and be happy.
JackM: 5D3's AF is behind the times? LOL. I guess the 1DX's is too then.
So 5DMarkIII's AF system is lacking because it does not have 3D recognition, but D750's AF is state of the art because it has more cross points? Ooops, isn't it the opposite?AF systems are not apples that you can compare based on only one variable. You need to test them thoroughly for quite some time to really understand and appreciate how they behave. Canon and Nikon AF systems have different characteristics. If one thing is missing in Canon, a different thing is missing from Nikon."behind the times" is a pretty strong phrase.But the review is very through, I really appreciate the hard work.
ozturert: Is 5DMarkIII's AF system really behind the times? Really?I think D750's AF system is a little bit exaggerated. Yes it's very good but I see no huge difference between D810 and D750, even with D7100. Still, incremental upgrades are good, although I'd put 5DMarkIII's AF system ahead of those Nikons in my experience.Image quality is exactly the same with D600 in RAW. JPEGs seem to be improved but actually NR and curves are different. I see slightly more NR and deeper blacks inD750's JPEGs which makes you think that shadows are cleaner.Canon does not have a rival at this price range. 6D is D610's counterpart. And D610 is a steal with the recent discounts compared to D750.D800 and D800E's second hand prices are very close to or lower than D750, and D800's are really professional cameras in terms of body. You can even find new D800's for as low as 2300$ which makes it even more difficult to decide :)
Unfortunately Canons lack face-recognition (except from 1Dx), but they catch the first focus slightly faster than Nikons, 5DMarkIII has more cross points and it can focus in similarly low light (and can focus better with outer points). Continuous autofocus also depends on lens and though 5DMarkIII is not as fast as 1Dx, it's definitely in top 10 of DSLRs. You need to do more through tests for some time in different conditions to really understand a camera's AF capability. When you consider these, "5DMarkIII's AF system is behind its times" is not correct. Then I can say "D750's AF system is not good because it has fewer cross points" which would be utterly wrong.See my point? It's not black and white.I said "I see no huge difference ... even with D7100", did not say D7100 has same AF capacity. On the other hand, you can take D7100 to a safari and be extremely happy. D750 is an update, but not a "huge" one.By the way, I kept my D800 and sold my 5DMarkIII :)
Is 5DMarkIII's AF system really behind the times? Really?I think D750's AF system is a little bit exaggerated. Yes it's very good but I see no huge difference between D810 and D750, even with D7100. Still, incremental upgrades are good, although I'd put 5DMarkIII's AF system ahead of those Nikons in my experience.Image quality is exactly the same with D600 in RAW. JPEGs seem to be improved but actually NR and curves are different. I see slightly more NR and deeper blacks inD750's JPEGs which makes you think that shadows are cleaner.Canon does not have a rival at this price range. 6D is D610's counterpart. And D610 is a steal with the recent discounts compared to D750.D800 and D800E's second hand prices are very close to or lower than D750, and D800's are really professional cameras in terms of body. You can even find new D800's for as low as 2300$ which makes it even more difficult to decide :)
Ergo607: This is typical: one camera who is almost one year old gets a major update with significant improvement and a lot of news features and three camera's that are end of life get a firmware update too (name one manufacturer that has done the same in the past!) and all people do is moan...
Canon, with 7D
DPP 4.X is a parallel development with 3.X. I think development of 3.X still continues and 3.X supports all Canons.I think Canon will cease 3.X when 4.X supports all Canons.
ozturert: Again, I see a lot of messages like "this is a terrible camera because I don't need it".
"My RX100 III is much smaller than this!""My Nikon is lighter and has more megapixels!""My camera takes better videos!""My camera is..."
Yes your camera is better.
With the same logic: "My phone has 20MP and it's smaller and lighter, and it has WiFi, and has touch screen, even has NFC! So 7DMarkII is way too expensive!":)Some folks do not understand that certain cameras have certain target users, and you are not among them :)I don't need 7DMarkII, not at all, but I cannot bash it just because my GM5 is smaller and lighter or my D800 has 36MP :) Heck, my GM5 has even an electronic shutter and can autofocus in reaaaaaly low light so that I can take my 5-month's picture without ANY noise and my D800's RAWs have immense latitude, but still...
Mirrorless Crusader: Canikon still doesn't get it - the future of digital photography is MIRRORLESS! Not ugly black clunky leviathans!
Future is mirrorless, but we're not in future yet :)
Again, I see a lot of messages like "this is a terrible camera because I don't need it".
Yes there are some drawbacks of small body design, on the other hand for my usage the only negative thing is the price. Otherwise, it's a brilliant little camera. Very fast, WiFi, EVF (small but sharp), good image quality. This is not for everyone, definitely.
Very nice, solid, fast, expensive camera with very good image quality.
tabloid: Looks like SLR cameras with mirrors flapping up and down have had their day.I bought a 3200 and tried to do some videos with it…..and I must admit that it was a total waste of time.First of all videos (for me) was a total disaster, as i couldn't use it in bright sunlight, and secondly the camera (in video mode) kept overheating….and i had to keep putting it in the fridge.
So I bought a Sony A65…..all problems solved.
Video Question: Was there any heating problems (in video mode) with the NX1.Can autofocus be used in any setting.Thanks
Can D7100 or D610 take 15fps, do they have tiltable touch screens, do they have market-leading WiFi capabilities, have you checked buffer in D7100?Ontairo, NX1 is definitely not a camera for you. And probably not for me either. Still, I cannot compare it with other cameras which have different purposes.
D3200 was a wrong choice to begin with, it's not D3200's fault. All cameras have target users, you obviously are not one of them for D3200.
"Not dead yet" also means "dying" :)
I mean, really?
Rooru S: Alright! Time to make a new comparison between the Nikon 80-400, Sony 70-400 and the new 100-400. Previously, the Canon was no match for the new lenses, but this promises a lot! I'm not a Canon shooter, but I can tell this is a good thing for all brands shooters (Prices will definitely go lower)
When a good EVF is as good as an OVF in motion, then DSLRs may lose ground in sports photography and BIF market. Until then...
wjansen, take 20 A77II and 20 7DMII and go to (say) final game of NFL. Talk to 20 professional photographers and offer either of these free. You'll probably go back home with 20 A77II's.And yes A77II is a great camera, I agree with that.
Summary of some comments:
1) I think this is a horrible camera because I don't need it.2) This is perfect because it's Canon.3) This is terrible because it's Canon.4) X camera is much better because...5) I cannot afford it, so it's bad.6) It must be bad because I've just bought another camera, so mine should of course be better. See xxx forum if you don't believe me!7) It's ISO25600 is worse than A7, so why should waste my money?8) It's bad because DxO says so.9) 7DMarkII is way behind its competitors like A7s.10) This is old technology compared to xxx.11) There is no WiFi so it's bad.12) Fixed LCD? Come ooooon!13) No touch LCD is a deal breaker for me, I'll continue using my IPhone.14) Only 20MP? This is 2014!15) The old 70D sensor!16) The best camera ever! Does it have Instagram-like effects?17) My camera has more effects!18) Sony is kicking aeass, Canikon is waaay behind!
Johannes Zander: DXOmark applies to all cameras except Canon and especially this model.
Did I got that right from you canonistas!
Noone can deny that DxO's evaluation methods and points are extremely important for people who never take real photos but spend their whole time on forums.
andymuns: All i can say is have look at this.... http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Canon-EOS-7D-Mark-II-versus-Pentax-K-3-versus-Nikon-D7100___977_914_865A $1800 camera should have a better sensor then Canon Eos 7d Mark II has...
Dan_168, I shoot with Canon, Nikon, Sony NEX, Olympus and Panasonic. Canon does not lack behind others on average. Sony sensors have little advantage in low ISO but Canon sensors are very good or better in high ISO.