It *is* as thought: sadomasochism takes many forms... Such as no review screen. Why review on the spot when you can go back home and cry your eyes out? This isn't to say someone won't like this "feature", which is why they'll have to pay for the privilege. A fool and his money...
mermaidkiller: Heavy (910g). The 6d is lighter.And why no fullframe ?Nikon will win with its D750 !
It's a man's camera, big, hairy and brawny.
Lucas_: Canon users finally have a more modern APS-C DSLR, with most bells & whistles! It seems to be a worthy successor to the old Eos 7D and is getting closer to the excellent Sony A77 II, although at a quite higher price. I know old customs die hard, but IMHO both Canon and Nikon should at least be adopting EVFs by now!
And LEDs, definitely LEDs.
kalpeshmodi: They should also include Pentax K3 in comparison table.
And their 70-200f4, 70.200f4 IS, 70-200f2.8 IS, 70-300IS, 100-400, 300 f4, 400 f5.6.. Oh, wait...
Studor13: What a great day.
Finally, all those Nikon D300/D7100 shooters waiting for the D400 can now finally switch over to Canon and shut the F up.
Congratulations Canon. Now you will have to put up with their continual moans and whines.
@Luttmann Oh, the humanity!
David Naylor: The AF sounds great, but honestly it is a little underwhelming after having seen what Samsung just released in the NX1...
And WHY ON EARTH have they not put a touchscreen on this thing? The lack of touchscreen when they have DPAF is mind-boggling.
What's a "Samsung"? A Phone? ;)
mpgxsvcd: I know everyone thinks I will pile on this camera, but I won’t. There is no need for that. Even Canon loyalists can see the lack of ingenuity here. However, what some people may not realize is that this camera will still sell.
The Canon name is still strong enough to sell this camera to people who simply don’t care about video, or touch screens, or ridiculous low light shooting. Those people who already have a bag full of Canon glass will stick with Canon till the very end.
And the truth is that they will probably take great photographs with this camera. It will suit their needs and they probably won’t ever consider buying another camera after this. That is the most important point.
This will probably be the last Canon A-PSC camera that sells simply because of the Canon name. Canon diehards will have the camera they can live with for the rest of their life and new potential Canon customers will be scared away by their high prices and lack of innovation.
Very Sad day for Canon.
Some people do marry their brand, but for those of us who don't the 7DII makes sense for specific applications in conjunction with the lens range - not the brand.
DarkShift: The big question for me is if the dynamic range and shadow noise are improved with the new sensor in 7D II.
If not, it might tell something about sensor performance of the rumoured high resolution Canon FF camera. Sony is rumoured to release 46-50 MP FF sensor later, so Canon will face very tough competition.
But then again competition is good!
rwbaron: Looks like a great camera in so many ways but it's a shame though about the sensor. I'll wait for the reviews and tests but this will probably not replace my 7D.
Canon is the only company now with off-chip ADC but maybe they pulled a rabbit out of their hat but I doubt it.
As you say, we don't know, but dynamic range is kinda overrated? Particularly when most amateurs struggle to get a decent exposure in the first place. I don't think too many people mastered the 7D's AF system, let alone this new beast. I'd ask them to do their homework, complain after actual use.
joyclick: The pricing is "arrogant"FF Nikon D700 used makes more sense.
Tell that to the folks stuck with their Nikon D300, which Nikon wants to take full frame at gun point. Make a will before you tell them.
Mihut Ovidiu: The Canon EOS 7D Mark II will be available in November body-only for $1,799.
Nikon D7100 24.1 MP DX-Format CMOS Digital SLR (Body Only) - $1,096.95
Perhaps the significant price difference make room for the Nikon D9300 ....
I wouldn't hold my breath!
locke_fc: Not really interested in the camera, but no wifi caught my attention.
It's 2014. At what point will camera makers decide it is no longer acceptable to release a flagship camera with something as simple, but highly useful, as wifi??
(a) At the point in which it realizes its target audience doesn't use it? Even if others like me like the idea of wifi; and (b) it already offers an APS-C camera with wifi, the 70D.
sandy b: This is a sport/birders delight. Nice feature set, Canon really didn't leave much on the table. The price is actually a bit lower than I thought for this pro class. The Canon boys have been waiting a long time for this, and even some Nikon guys are thinking.
Every camera does not have to be mirrorless EVF, A camera with some mass and strength to hang long glass off is a good thing.
@kangoo1707 And then you attached your imaginary 70-200f4, 70.200f4 IS, 70-200f2.8 IS, 70-300IS, 100-400, 300 f4, 400 f5.6 and had a field day, yay!
Donnie G: What we have here is a Canon 1D X done with an APS-C sensor. Just like the original 7D, this new Canon 7D mk2 will be the king of the hill in pro grade APS-C cameras for the next 5 or more years. Pros and hardcore enthusiasts will be very happy with and very loyal to the 7D mk2, just like they were with the original. A lot of that loyalty will be due to Canon wisely sticking with a body style and control layout that the targeted buyers are already familiar with. Unlike some amateur and most casual camera users, pros require consistency in the layout and design of their tools. That's why Canon's 1D, 5D, and 7D cameras will all look, feel, and operate the same from one upgrade to the next. Great job Canon!
plasnu: OK, APS-C is far from dying.
At least with Canon. Meanwhile on the Nikon forum... Let the clothes shredding begin.
falconeyes: The 7DmkII certainly is a nice camera.
But it also shows how slow the progress in the photographic industry has become. Most advance is in the camera control logic (AF, metering).
Actually, we're now back in the days of analog film, with a nice pace of evolution and cameras not deprecating too fast. Not a bad thing in my book where photography matters more than gear.
Yes, it's a sort of plateau, but most cameras are still way better than what most amateurs (like me) can accomplish.
cmvsm: Still don't get a camera's ergonomic design where one cannot turn the camera on and off with one hand. Even when Canon puts the switch on the correct side, one needs to move their thumb off of the pad to turn it on, which can easily lead to dropped cameras. This is the primary reason why I never bought into Canon DSLR's.
I'm sorry you only have one hand but it's probably not profitable to make a camera just for you.
westfalcon: Lots of nice improvements, but the initial photos look to me that the screen doesn't flip out. Maybe I'm not noticing something about how it works, however if that's the case, it's a big deal breaker if you want to use it for video.
Then get a 70D?
Koemans: For 1799 dollars you get
-20 Megapixels, only 4 years behind its peers. -20.2MP brand new sensor, this is the same brand new sensor as seen in the 70D. Dont believe me? Wait for other crop camera's from canon to get a 'brand new' 20.2 megapixel sensor aswell for years to come-No touchscreen, only 4 years behind its peers. -No Wifi, these features are pretty much mandatory for a 'pro' camera these days. People no longer want to pay hundreds of additional dollars to unlock features in an expensive camera. -Interval timer, landscape photographers already use external devices and a fullframe for that. -65 autofocus points,. They would stick to 19 if they could, Competition forced them!
The 7DII lacks identity to me
I bet you, Next year when a new 5d gets announced, we will get WIFI, 4K and all the other features that are missing in the 7DII, for the sake of product diversification.
Canon is like the iphone 6. Get the same specifications as the competition, pay twice the amount.
Newsflash: Right now it has no peers: no Nikon D400, Pentax who? Sony what?
JoEick: Magazine editor: "Your bird in flight portfolio is horrible!"Photographer: "But the ISO 100 files I never take, can be pushed 5 stops!"Magazine editor: "You're hired!"
Magazine editor: "Your bird in flight portfolio is incredible!"Photographer: "Actually all of those high ISO shots were taken on a camera that can't be pushed 5 stops at ISO 100."Magazine editor: "Get out! And don't come back until you have a proper camera for the job!"
Somehow many of the DPR reader comments seem to live in this bizaro alternate universe where a pure action sports camera is a failure because ISO 100 may not be industry leading.
Magazine editor: Photographers, you're all fired! We're only using stock photos from now on, taken by a gazillion amateurs with their phones. Stop babbling about pushing up whatnot and get out!