Nice review, that Tamron is sure looking good...
Ok let's play crazy headlines then: 2016, Canon buys Sony's former sensor subsidiary, blows up factory. Game over NiPePaFuSalympus?
rsf3127: To those who believe Sony is going bakrupt and Samsung is the new deal, please read about the meaning of keiretsu & zaibatsu, and their korean counterpart, the chaebols.
This of central importance to get to the kernel of the problem. It is the neo-Keynesian strategy creating giants that are too big to go bankrupt - and to compete with small businesses. Until they eventually go bakrupt when the aid from the government dries out.
Neo keynesian LOL! Poor Keynes is going to be the cause of cancer next.
Nice camera, nice review.
The thing is we all need to look at market numbers, volume and profitability, before we can make these sweeping statements.
While mirrorless cameras from Olympus, Fuji and Panasonic are nice, Canon has in fact responded wth the SL1 and a couple of pancakes, which fit the bill nicely for many, and without the need for lens compatibility problems.
On the other hand the 11-22, and 22mm lenses seem nice, perhaps they just need a couple of small telephotos for the M system. Although for me it's still no viewfinder, no deal.
Do I need an 8k monitor now??
Yikes! A super rebel or mini 70D... Cool!
Not for me, but it looks a nice camera. Good review too.
Great video DPR! Useful, interesting... I'm not sure it was quite necessary to face mountain lions and wolves though! Now Nikon users will demand that you face wild tigers.
It's very sad to see people feel threatened by a brand's progress and see this as an ad.
To each his own... But this is now my official example for poor taste.
Stollen1234: So what People are Saying there is no visible improvement with Canon 7 D Mark II Over Canon 7D.
Wow this is Pretty signifikant..
Only the blind or obtuse.
IvanM: I think the 7D2 could be a very nice backup camera to something like the 6D, which lacks the AF & speed capabilities but is clearly the high iso champ for normal budgets.
Just think a 7D2 plus a 300mm f4 L IS lens will give you the equivalent (or close as dammit) of a 1DX plus 500mm f4 L mk2 lens at a fraction of the price. I think that is what this camera is all about....
Lets also hope that this sensor technology filters down to the next EosM, G1X mk3 etc etc.
Beyond your budgetary constraints or mine he's making a good point, there are many more people who can afford a 6D and a 7DII with a 300mm f4 than there are for the $6,800 1DX and a $9,500 500mm f4.
Hibiscusbloom: Having examined the files in comparison with those of IDX, MK3, D4s and others, I would say there isn't really much of an improvement in IQ and low noise performance. Canon hyped it up too much. People looking for near FF performance had better be more realistic.
In my eyes, the improvement of iq over the 70D is slight. It appears to let in a wee bit more light and perhaps a very slight noise reduction, very slight.
With advanced post processing, the raw files can be rendered much better.
However, there are a host of new features, notably the much talked about improved AF, weather sealing, 10 fps amongst others that might sway many towards this camera.
Is the price justifiable? Depends, if you always wanted FF and about to make a choice on a particular DSLR, then mouth-watering models like Nikon D750 might be more enticing offering you the best of FF with crop sensor ability. If you already have Canon lenses and looking to pursue birds and animals in the wild, this is it!
Your comment is a new low.
Retzius: Looks pretty good!
BTW, the Pentax K-3 looks amazing.
In RAW at ISO 6400 they look the same, perhaps the 7DII a tad better; but instead of saying "Ha! Pentax is doomed!", I think it speaks well of both, it's a high standard.
Greg VdB: The most important observations are in my opinion: (1) Canon made really significant improvements to its APS-C sensor in just one year (compare to 70D), and (2) it is now placed comfortably in the pack of APS-C cameras, probably very near the front (as one might expect for a newly introduced camera). Point (1) is very promising for future Canon releases across the different classes, and Point (2) means Canon are no longer "4 years behind" in sensor technology... As to the question if this then makes the 7D II the best camera for everyone? Of course not!! That depends fully on your shooting style, personal preferences, budget, etc. I'm always suprized that people seem to expect the perfect camera-that-fits-everyone with every new release, and then start bashing when it isn't exactly that...
Good points, particularly the comparison with the 70D. A good percentage of the discussion is psychological, people so insecure they marry their brand and need to bash "the enemy", while others confuse photography with sensor technology.
Reinhard136: Getting close to the competition, but makes you realise how far the 7d had slipped at high iso, frightening how far canon is prepared to fall behind. If the m2 image is the same in another 5 years, it will be facing not the next sony sensor, which would not be far off, but at best the one after that ........But should the competition really be based on sensor capacity or price ? If so it is pretty sad to compare the A7r with the m2.
Or you could compare the 7D with its only competitor, the D300 and see if it had slipped anywhere but in your imagination; and then compare the 7DII to the nonexistent D400 to see who's fallen behind.
Anecdotically I've seen plenty of Lacie drives fail, it's usually a shock for Mac owners to realize inside it's a normal WD/Seagate/Samsung/whatever hard drive... For the road you should get an external SSD even if it's much smaller capacity, mechanical drives are way too fragile to be lugging around.
Way to destroy your brand equity Canon, not that expectations weren't already low. At least it's not a Rebel with leds à la Pentax.
Dennis: Smart, Canon ! Following the Pentax model of success.
I don't see the leds?