Nice try, but no buy.
A half-hearted Android attempt will do nothing. Only a full Android implementation on a top phone will have any hope of winning back consumers who have lost their confidence in Nokia, whoever owns or runs it.
What we can see here is still a lack of real commitment to use Android. That says volumes about the limited Android support that can be expected later with such a product, and raises more doubt in Nokia's commitment to any Android products and Android support, e.g. getting Android updates, fixing problems in use, etc. Clearly Android is used only because Nokia's arm is twisted.
Maybe the GUI and other software in the phone will look more and more like the same thing in some future Windows GUI etc, as a way of moving unsuspecting users to Windows?
No Android, no apps, no buy.
This is so funny, but also serious, when you see that Olympus, Fuji, Pentax and Sigma products exciting the readers here. The big makers, Nikon and Canon, show that you can make money by selling older technology products cheap to the masses and to those shackled to their lenses or rather their old mounts. This shows that not everybody can afford to switch or afford the latest and the best for their needs.
Sergey Borachev: Looks great, but still not sure as DXO is involved in the lens testing. I will wait for Lenstip and Photozone to be sure.
Correction. These are DXO's test results, not DPR's.
Unfortunately, DPR is not what it used to be. It does not seem to be growing with the industry and needs, except in these forum visits, it seems to rely on others doing reviews for it. Some cameras and lenses still take a long time to get reviewed if at all, although we do get a lot of previews.
Looks great, but still not sure as DXO is involved in the lens testing. I will wait for Lenstip and Photozone to be sure.
Mal_In_Oz: This article is suggesting the EM10 sits below the EM5 in the OMD lineup. But does that mean it is a new line separate from the EM5? And if so, why didn't they call it the EM100?
And most importantly, will we see an EM5 replacement, because in form the EM10 and EM5 are very close? The features that are missing are all bundled in the EM1 which doesn't leave a lot of room for an EM6.
Come on DPR, ask the hard questions...
I have not heard anyone suggest the E-M5 would be dropped, except now. No, the E-M5 won't be dropped, being the mainstream product that most of us will buy, not too basic and not too specialised (and expensive) like the E-M1. It is the OMD model that Olympus relies on for volume sales, the bread and butter model. What I think is that the E-M5 replacement will have some features that are not even in the E-M1, e.g. a new sensor with better IQ. The E-M1 will still be the camera that has PDAF and the ability to use 43 lenses, which it can do better with its bigger size and weight. It will still be the one for action shots, etc but it is an expensive flagship that won't sell so well. Olympus is known to put features that higher (and older) models do not have, as shown in the E-P5 (vs E-M5) and also right here. So, don't worry, the E-M5 replacment will be the best yet for the average enthusiast who do not have such special needs, e.g. to use top quality 43 lenses.
alireza: it is a beautiful camera but for people like me who have several lenses and invested on SLR system what advantage this camera can give us compare to Nikon D3300 for example. as I see, the size is not much smaller and price is twice.If I buy a D3300 I can use all of my lens and flashes and enjoy the small size that always was an issue with carrying big SLRs and main reason for moving to mirror-less. if mirrorless is as big as SLR I prefer to spend lees money.
All true, unfortunately for most DLSR users. They are stuck with older technology cameras due to their lenses.
It's got the wrong OS. Proprietary stuff and little apps, no way! The greatest camera is no use. Software first.
Sergey Borachev: It is interesting to see how Sony changes directions often and running in various directions like a headless chook, from DSLR to SLT, NEX, A, fixed lens cameras, ... and in various formats APS-C, 1-inch and FF mirrorless but not really advancing at all its bleeding camera business in spite of all such brave efforts and its vast resources and engineering know-how, its great sensors and electronics, the access to variuos technology/support (Minolta, Zeiss, Tamron, Olympus), and in spite of advantages like manufacturing capability, and outlets, when compared to other smaller camera makers.
A giant size teenager should hang on to the coattails of the older and more experienced but it apparently is not making use of what Minolta and Olympus know, if it continues to "innovate" and experiment with different approaches.
The best thing Sony can do is to buy Olympus and LISTEN and LEARN, or just join M43, than continuing a wild goose hunt.
It is interesting to see how Sony changes directions often and running in various directions like a headless chook, from DSLR to SLT, NEX, A, fixed lens cameras, ... and in various formats APS-C, 1-inch and FF mirrorless but not really advancing at all its bleeding camera business in spite of all such brave efforts and its vast resources and engineering know-how, its great sensors and electronics, the access to variuos technology/support (Minolta, Zeiss, Tamron, Olympus), and in spite of advantages like manufacturing capability, and outlets, when compared to other smaller camera makers.
Joseph Mama: So, what exactly is so freaking NEW about these? I mean, a 20x compact zoom? We were there 3 years ago with the SX260.
Whats new? Apart from the even lousier aperture numbers...
A built-in EVF in a travel zoom!
Samsung, like Sony, it's also copying the OMD looks for mirrorless cameras.
attomole: What bothers me is the size, its a lttle to big for street shooting, and what also bothers me is the implication does this mean we won't ever get a compact f 1.4 14mm 18mm 23 mm primes? Which it seems to, in which case FX still holds the edge and MFT / Fuji looks atractive altrrnatives to APS C
My thoughts too. Everything is great about this Sigma, IQ, speed, price, and the FL range is just what I most want for street photo taking and walking about, but it is too intimidating for street shooting and too heavy for walking about.
So, really wonderful lens, exciting spec and unbelievable price or value, but practically speaking it is not so desirable if you think about it with a cool head.
If an electronic Speedbooster is available for M43 mount, then it would be different. 25-50mm f/1.2. Now, that would be equivalent to four f/1.2 lenses, 24mm, 28mm, 35mm, 50mm. I think that is different and worth the weight, and wait. And, it will be stabilised by the nice IBIS in Olympus cameras.
I love it!
Canon and Nikon continue to waste time and let others have a bigger lead as the world turn mirrorless. This is great for competition. Thank you, Canon.
Themilanimal: Amazing phone. I got mine a couple of weeks ago and it's exceeded all my expectations
Looks great but I worry about such an angular shape, which must mean higher possibility of the screen getting cracked when dropped due to the concentrated pressure at the corner when it meets the ground.
Great camera for those who like things nostalgic in this day and age.
For me, I will never get a camera like this ever again. It still has a flapping mirror and an OVF, and it uses big lenses. It is good as a collectible item though, as DSLRs continue to "fade away".
I see a lot of reaction from DSLR users.
Especially for all those who keep pointing out the small M43 sensor, I wonder why they bother to read this review at all, and why they then feel the need to post what we all know - that M43 cameras have a smaller sensor, no good, blah blah.
Shouldn't they be happy about what they use, the bigger sensor and cameras etc, and not feel so threatened?
Looks good and it is a great camera if you only use fairly "standard" FL lenses like 50mm, 35mm and perhaps 60mm. Once you start to use the wider or longer lenses, particularly you need more speed, the lenses are huge and unbalanced on this camera, that is assuming such lenses will become available any time soon.
Sony has this obsession of making cameras that are really small, too small for the lenses that will be put on them. The last experiment, NEX, has not taught them anything. Now, it is making the same mistake in this one, since FF lenses cannot be small except for a few around the standard FL.
Sony should remember that there is a difference in FF camera requirements and being ultra small is not the most important one, as in a compact RX100. Features, reliability, support, and also confidence are very important. Is there still confidence in Sony system, as it goes on trying one system experiment after another?
$1300 will make this RX10 a very hard sell, whatever it can do as it is still a 1-inch sensor fixed lens camera and a heavy one at that. The RX100 is much smaller and light. So, it is easy to forgive its limitations and most people think it is already very expensive. While you may argue that the Carl Zeiss lens is worth paying extra, unfortunately that justification is weak as the lens is stuck on this camera and not reusable when this camera becomes old and tired. I think it will be a very niche camera.
Another nail in the coffin for the DSLR.