attomole: What bothers me is the size, its a lttle to big for street shooting, and what also bothers me is the implication does this mean we won't ever get a compact f 1.4 14mm 18mm 23 mm primes? Which it seems to, in which case FX still holds the edge and MFT / Fuji looks atractive altrrnatives to APS C
My thoughts too. Everything is great about this Sigma, IQ, speed, price, and the FL range is just what I most want for street photo taking and walking about, but it is too intimidating for street shooting and too heavy for walking about.
So, really wonderful lens, exciting spec and unbelievable price or value, but practically speaking it is not so desirable if you think about it with a cool head.
If an electronic Speedbooster is available for M43 mount, then it would be different. 25-50mm f/1.2. Now, that would be equivalent to four f/1.2 lenses, 24mm, 28mm, 35mm, 50mm. I think that is different and worth the weight, and wait. And, it will be stabilised by the nice IBIS in Olympus cameras.
I love it!
Canon and Nikon continue to waste time and let others have a bigger lead as the world turn mirrorless. This is great for competition. Thank you, Canon.
Themilanimal: Amazing phone. I got mine a couple of weeks ago and it's exceeded all my expectations
Looks great but I worry about such an angular shape, which must mean higher possibility of the screen getting cracked when dropped due to the concentrated pressure at the corner when it meets the ground.
Great camera for those who like things nostalgic in this day and age.
For me, I will never get a camera like this ever again. It still has a flapping mirror and an OVF, and it uses big lenses. It is good as a collectible item though, as DSLRs continue to "fade away".
I see a lot of reaction from DSLR users.
Especially for all those who keep pointing out the small M43 sensor, I wonder why they bother to read this review at all, and why they then feel the need to post what we all know - that M43 cameras have a smaller sensor, no good, blah blah.
Shouldn't they be happy about what they use, the bigger sensor and cameras etc, and not feel so threatened?
Looks good and it is a great camera if you only use fairly "standard" FL lenses like 50mm, 35mm and perhaps 60mm. Once you start to use the wider or longer lenses, particularly you need more speed, the lenses are huge and unbalanced on this camera, that is assuming such lenses will become available any time soon.
Sony has this obsession of making cameras that are really small, too small for the lenses that will be put on them. The last experiment, NEX, has not taught them anything. Now, it is making the same mistake in this one, since FF lenses cannot be small except for a few around the standard FL.
Sony should remember that there is a difference in FF camera requirements and being ultra small is not the most important one, as in a compact RX100. Features, reliability, support, and also confidence are very important. Is there still confidence in Sony system, as it goes on trying one system experiment after another?
$1300 will make this RX10 a very hard sell, whatever it can do as it is still a 1-inch sensor fixed lens camera and a heavy one at that. The RX100 is much smaller and light. So, it is easy to forgive its limitations and most people think it is already very expensive. While you may argue that the Carl Zeiss lens is worth paying extra, unfortunately that justification is weak as the lens is stuck on this camera and not reusable when this camera becomes old and tired. I think it will be a very niche camera.
Another nail in the coffin for the DSLR.
Olympus should have a new optional exposure setting in the menu of all its cameras, i.e."Avoid shutter speeds from 1/100 to 1/200 sec", for use at those times when critical sharpness is important. When selected, the camera will automatically adjust other settings to avoid those shutter speeds or at lease give a flashing warning.
This camera should not have been made, now that a better top camera, the E-M5 has already been on the market. Olympus should just update the E-M5 and forget this E-P5. It is too expensive but lacks an EVF. Once the real E-M5 replacement appears in a few months, with a new sensor, this camera will be left on the shelves, if not already.
(The E-M1 is a different camera for 43 users and those with special needs.) There is simply no room between the E-M5 or its replacement and the E-PL5 to slot in this E-P5.
A great follow-up of the E-M5.
I really like this no holds barred attitude in Olympus.
Nokia is not Apple, and if it also does not have Android, then it's a waste of time.
Of course it can't be Android, being now taken over by Microsoft. So long, Nokia.
Olympus made good on what they promised about 18 months ago, i.e. the OM-D being "The Beginning of The New".
This is the second OM-D model and another breakthrough, and this is significant, merging the pro grade 43 into M43 and adding all those high grade 43 lenses to the great lens system for M43. The new features are significant for those who need to get the very best in a mirrorless. Bravo!
All it needs to do is ensure there are no QC issues.
I agree halc.
People who still were willing to try Nokia phones because of the Nokia name and it history of making fine phones will give up now. Microsoft is not the most loved brand.
Nokia had a chance to save itself, if it had gone Android instead of Window. So long.
Who wants to buy Microsoft stuff, if they still have a choice. In desktop, they don't have a choice. In everything else, people will resist buying anything Microsoft.
Not a big camera at all considering its APS-C sensor.
Silly for Samsung not to put a few more buttons and dials on the top of the camera though. Look at the waste of the space there, compared to the other two cameras in this diagram.
Sergey Borachev: This is interesting. I think we need to reassess the situation. Samsung has under one roof the capability to make all these - AMOLED screen, smart Android phone, camera and lenses. It has been slow in the last two, but is catching up with the new NX line. It is also financially strong, unlike most of the other camera makers including Panasonic and Sony, and it can afford to spend to develop its camera business. Based on this camera, it seems finally ready to get serious in MILCs, which neither Nikon or Canon is willing to do yet. We may be looking at an emerging power in enthusiast cameras in the next couple of years. The timing is perfect for Samsung to do this, since this is an opportunity when all the camera makers are struggling at this time when camera markets are declining. A new breakthrough design may be just what's needed to sell to the younger generation used to swiping and touchscreens, and who have not invested yet in or tied down by old DSLR or other MILC purchases.
OK, not a real breakthrough in any of the parts, but a good concortion of available technology to converge them.
I think it will appeal to the younger swyping generation, though not necessarily a lot of us older know-it-all photogs on these forums. Hey, but let's not ignore what the young ones have done for Apple and then Samsung. This could be the future.
There is actually a headphone/microphone jack. Great.
That can be used with Skype. I still would prefer if it is designed so that the back can be removed to become an S4 like phone.
Sergey Borachev: Hi, Shawn and Lars,
You said first Android 4.1 and then in the features list 4.2. Which is it?
(43rumors said 4.2.2)
Thanks, Shawn. I was confused there.
This is interesting. I think we need to reassess the situation. Samsung has under one roof the capability to make all these - AMOLED screen, smart Android phone, camera and lenses. It has been slow in the last two, but is catching up with the new NX line. It is also financially strong, unlike most of the other camera makers including Panasonic and Sony, and it can afford to spend to develop its camera business. Based on this camera, it seems finally ready to get serious in MILCs, which neither Nikon or Canon is willing to do yet. We may be looking at an emerging power in enthusiast cameras in the next couple of years. The timing is perfect for Samsung to do this, since this is an opportunity when all the camera makers are struggling at this time when camera markets are declining. A new breakthrough design may be just what's needed to sell to the younger generation used to swiping and touchscreens, and who have not invested yet in or tied down by old DSLR or other MILC purchases.