mais51: Typical Nikon charges you heap more for not so much change. Just like the D800/D800e twin -$300 extra for removing a filter.
A low volume product will always be more expensive, that's just how it works.
MarioV: Well that was underwhelming. Are any of those "new" models even slightly different to any of the current Nikon models?
I believe they changed the model numbers.
1/3.1" sensor, F3.3 - F5.9, only digital image stabilization. Nikon just keeps giving!
Gesture: While the future of DLSR remains to be seen, now, Pentax has a lineup of DSLRs, instead of one model in production at a time. Significant progress.
I just saw further down the thread, that someone had heard that the K-S models do not replace K-50/500. If true, that means that Pentax now have a handful of models in production simultaneously.
Before the Ricoh takeover, they had K-5 and K-r, before that K-7 and K-x, and so on. Pentax always had one enthusiast and one entry-level model. Now they seem to have three models, the K-3, K-S2 (replacing K-50), and K-S1 (replacing K-500).
Mssimo: In a very successful attempt to match the sensor to the looks of the camera they are now using canons 20MP APSC sensor.
Two other reasons for this not being the Canon sensor: the Canon is a Dual Pixel design, and it is smaller (crop factor 1.6x).
MFiftysomething: Pentax Ricoh: just seem like a company with no real ambition the should bring out a mirror less camera and move on from their ball and chain legacy
The GXR and K-01 were both mirrorless cameras, although both are now discontinued. And then there's the Q system, which supposedly is popular in Japan. But I suspect that you had something less oddball in mind.
BorisK1: Here's what I want to know: Supposedly, ragged cams (along with enthusiasts' and superzooms) are the only types of cameras not affected by cellphones. The manufacturers are - supposedly - focusing on the ragged cams like never before.
Why, then, all the recently released tough cams are hardly updated from previous versions? A new body color here, a new "creative mode" there, an updated logo don't really show "focus".
The types of compact camera that are least affected by the exodus to smartphones, are likely those that offer something that smartphones don't offer. Such as advanced manual controls and raw shooting (enthusiast compacts), long zoom lenses (superzooms), and a rugged body (tough compacts).
Sure, we have seen a few smartphones with raw, optical zoom or water resistance, but they aren't standard features yet.
mediman30: Seems like the word 'innovation' has been omitted in Canon's dictionary for quite sometime.
You missed my point. Yes, Exmor was an innovation, but what has that got to do with upping the MP count? The latter is a separate achievement from other technological changes to a sensor. The D800 sensor was called innovative exclusively for having 36 MP.Canon did the exact same thing as Sony did: they increased the resolution of a sensor without offering any new sensor technology. It doesn't matter if Canon's tech is behind Sony's. That's beside the point.
jukeboxjohnnie: FAIL !!!! No viewfinder which is expected among enthusiasts these days
@taktak91From the DPR article: "This is very much in line with Canon’s new stated audience for the camera – the enthusiast photographer rather than the beginner."
Also, Canon's European websites do place it among the enthusiast models:
The funny thing is that if Sony had been first to market with a 50 MP FF sensor, they would have been praised for their innovation. Even if they didn't offer any new sensor technology, but just raised the MP count, like they did with the D800 sensor, they would still be called innovative. When Canon does the exact same thing, they are criticized for their lack of innovation.
Personally, I don't think that it's innovative to just cram more pixels onto a sensor, but that goes for Sony too, not just Canon.
christom: Strange if they don't plan on selling it in America, one of the biggest camera markets, and probably the biggest.
Oh well. I'm looking forward to Sony's A7000.
Yes, but clearly Canon doesn't see it that way. They probably see the failure of the original EOS M in the American market as evidence that mirrorless cameras aren't selling well there. They don't understand that the failure could have something to do with the M being a lacklustre camera.
CIPA shipment numbers for 2014:
AmericasDSLRs: ~2.70m unitsMILCs: ~480k units
EuropeDSLRs: ~3.00m unitsMILCs: ~720k units
JapanDSLRs: ~1.08m unitsMILCs: ~720k units
Asia (except Japan)DSLRs: ~3.61m unitsMILCs: ~1.26m units
Clearly, mirrorless cameras aren't as hot in America as in the rest of the world.
Tilted Plane: The question does linger--is a $900 camera, without a lens, entry level? The Rebel line seems to beg for a true entry level--in terms of price--without having to buy a 2 or 3 year old model. No?
The 1200D (T5) is as entry-level as they come, and it's only one year old.
zodiacfml: wow, CCD sensor. who makes that?
Sony makes them, and several manufacturers use them in their cheapest compacts.
RichRMA: It looks thoroughly competent...and utterly boring. If you line-up each Canon DSLR (they don't make much else) from cheap to expensive, aside from size, can you tell them apart?
When it comes to ergonomics and control layout, I want as little change from one model to the next as possible, so I can just pick up a new camera and start shooting. Unless of course there was something seriously wrong with the old design.
Howard: So why didn't they put these sensors in the 7D II ???
No, these models don't have Dual Pixel AF. They have the regular variant of on-sensor PDAF, with masked-off pixels. Only the 70D and 7D2 have Dual Pixel AF.
b534202: So is the T6i their new cheap entry camera replacing the T5 while the T6s replaces the T5i?
Or is there going to be an even cheaper T6 coming?
As I see it, the T6i (750D) replaces the T5i (700D), while the T6s (760D) slots in between the T6i and 70D. The SL1 (100D) sits below all of these, and the T5 (1200D) sits at the bottom.
arhmatic: Why would everything has to come to the USA? Yes, it's a large market, there is plenty of money outside.
But the US is still the largest economy in the world:
The Squire: Reasonable price, but uninspiring.
1080/30p? That's all?
2013 rang. They want their camera back.
Yes, 2013 cameras are so unusable these days.