Marty4650: Here's the MAIN problem with cell phone add ons.... cell phones are disposable commodities. This device will only work with iPhones, and probably with ONLY their current model. Apple is notorious for making new phones that don't work with accessories you bought for your last iPhone.
Fortunately this thing seems reasonably priced, but you would be foolish to buy any expensive add on that cannot be used with your NEXT cell phone.
And an even bigger problem might be that ANYTHING that makes a cell phone into a better camera defeats the whole purpose of having "one small, convenient, and pocketable device that can be used as a camera." Because once you have to carry around extra parts they become just as inconvenient as real cameras are.
This is like trying to turn a blender into a meat grinder. You are better off buying a meat grinder if you want it done right.
Had I seen your comment first, I wouldn't have bothered writing my own.
So, people abandoned the dedicated camera for the more convenient and portable smartphone. And now they are expected to buy accessories that make their smartphone more similar to the camera they stopped using. Is there some kind of irony in this, or is it just me?
MikeF4Black: So viewfinderless cameras are still marketed over the cheap p&s segment? Amazing.
"They're handy in bright conditions, or when you need stability."
Absolutely, but the notion that a camera without a VF can't be targeted at enthusiasts is absurd. There are serious, skilled photographers who prefer using the LCD screen for composition. It's just a matter of personal preference, not a matter of beginner vs. enthusiast.
Well, manual exposure control and raw is usually enough for a compact to be marketed as 'advanced' or 'enthusiast'. Usually they also have slightly better build quality and better lenses than most cheap P&S compacts.
SeeRoy: I'd suggest reading this. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2016/04/bunnell-fujifilm-x70-vs-ricoh-gr.htmlOdd that DPR comes up with the idea of reviewing this camera a couple of days after TOP's article...
I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time that different reviews or articles about the same product have appeared within days of each other. And I don't understand why this would be considered odd.
princecody: This is the 1st Ever camera review on here where JPEG has a higher score than RAW? 😏 How can this be?
On a side note, I just re-read DPR's explanation of the different scoring categories, and apparently the IQ categories for JPEG and raw only include noise performance up to ISO 800.Noise performance above ISO 800 is included in the category "Low light / high ISO performance" together with low light focus and exposure.
greenarcher02: Isn't that similar to their partnership with Panasonic? Panasonic actually manufactures, and sometimes designs the lenses, but the design is approved by Leica.
It's exactly the same. Panasonic has admitted that Leica's only involvement is in certification of the lens designs and of the manufacturing equipment.
TonyPM: I wonder what Panasonic has to say about this.
I think he's referring to the 'partnership' between Panasonic and Leica. However, the Leica-branded MFT lenses and compact camera lenses, are no different from the optics used by Huawei. The design was approved, and the production facilities authorized, by Leica. And Panasonic has put such lenses in pretty cheap compacts in the past, not just in premium models.
I guess it means that, relatively speaking, the JPEGs stand up better to the competition than the raw files do. It doesn't mean that JPEG image quality is better than you can get from the raw files.In other words, you can't compare the JPEG and raw scores for the same camera. You should compare the scores with other cameras in the same category.
Revenant: The NX-M must be one of the most short-lived lens mounts ever. Samsung seems to have forgotten about it almost immediately after its launch.
Yeah, but if they had used the NX mount, why would they use a 1" sensor instead of APS-C? A smaller sensor doesn't allow a smaller camera, if the mount dimensions are exactly the same.
The NX-M must be one of the most short-lived lens mounts ever. Samsung seems to have forgotten about it almost immediately after its launch.
Marksphoto: Can somebody tell me what jobs I can shoot in order to pay off an investment into this cameras system?
@Teila DayIt's not often you see strip club owners and pornographers mentioned in the same sentence as fine art curators, attorneys and dentists. I guess it takes a Hasselblad to bring them all together! :D
avicenanw: I find it hard to imagine a Hasselblad without a wooden hand grip.
Ironic that Hasselblad should come to be associated with a pimped-up Sony camera. What were they (both Hasselblad and Sony) thinking?
photogecko: Did they fix the shadow banding? Or how about the price?
For sports/action shooting, the Nikon D5 is surely better value.
futurewah: For the life of me I cannot understand why Leica didn't source the 36mp sensor available from Sony. Sure, Nikon and Pentax use it too, and it's not as advanced as Sony's newer 42mp BSI sensor, but it's a proven sensor with good DR and ISO capabilities. I just think given the cost of this camera and its lenses, and its position in the Leica line-up, this would have been a smarter move.
Moving the S to Sony's 50mp and/or 100mp CMOS should be a no brainer too.
Perhaps Leica thought that 24MP offers a better balance between IQ and speed for a wide range of use cases? And maybe they think of this as more like their version of the A7, rather than the A7R?
le_alain: "cost $1499/€1260. "never saw a price in € in France wich is under the price in US dollar.change doesn't match in photo equipement, often 20% more expensive in Europe
European prices include VAT, while US prices don't. Usually, it's more expensive in Europe anyway, but not by as much as people think.
Michael Thompson: its a cell phone!not a camera unless your a girl taking selfies
It's a cell phone with an integrated camera.