James Booba: That´s 7D 1.1 - definitly not 2.0.
NX1 = 7D 2.0 :-)
No, I don't yet know it about the 7D either, so that's another reason to wait with the comparisons until we have actual real life testing to go by.
You should compare real life performance, not numbers on a specs sheet. We don't yet know if the NX1 lives up to its promise.
Luuger: What was needed for the 7D mII:- 4K Video- Full frame- Wifi- Flexible screen- Touch screen- Resolution increase- Great AF- Better quality Sensor
What Canon brought was able to deliver:- Great AF
IMHO the responsible product developer should be fired immediately unless he had orders from above. Canon is not only harming its own brand, but the category of DSLR as itself.
You clearly don't understand the target market for this camera, if you think it should be FF. There is certainly a place in the market for pro-grade crop sensor bodies like the 7D and D300. For example, many wildlife shooters prefer the extra telephoto reach.
RStyga: As much as I like Sigma, they need to drop this Quattro-design fiasco A-S-A-P before they surpass the SD1 original release-price fiasco. WHAT ON EARTH did the designers think when creating the Quattro??? IT IS ugly, IT IS grossly not ergonomic, IT IS not compact in any conceivable way!!! There is nothing positive to this design at all. Sigma wake up...
Not everyone finds the design ugly, and a lot of people don't care how a camera looks as long as it works.
At least some reviewers have reported that the Quattro handles very well, if you know how to hold it correctly. I guess it works for some, but not for others, just like any other camera design.
And about the size, Sigma has stated that the Quattro cameras weren't intended to be compact. The goal was to create a fixed-lens camera designed for two-handed operation, that would feel and handle much like a DSLR.
KZMike: I REALLY do wish Sigma would have some reasonable offerings for us enthusiasts.
Their sensor design really makes sense to me and with some bells and whistles like the Lumix FZ1000, they would have a HUGE sales winner. . . it is looking like Pany is going to sell a bajillion FZ1000's.
Sigma seems to have a similar 'pure photography' philosophy as Leica, in making a point of not offering a lot of bells and whistles, but only the basic features that a photographer needs. I don't think they will change this approach anytime soon. It's obvious that they, just like Leica, have no ambition to try to take market shares from the bigger companies, but are quite happy with the small, but very loyal customer base they already have.
abortabort: Hmmm an interesting and funny wrap up :)
It would have been nice if you mentioned that that ridiculous (though 'some' might think 'pretty', like an X30 apparently) perfume bottle selfie camera thing is the first camera ever to have a curved sensor - that makes it one of those 'weird cameras that started it all' and not just for the explosion of dedicated 'female friendly' selfie cameras that are going to hit the market.
The specifications for the KW1 mention it having an Exmor RS sensor. That's the 'stacked' BSI-CMOS sensor (not to be confused with a layered Foveon-type sensor) that is also used in some camera phones.I guess that a curved sensor would be given a new designation, and not the existing Exmor R or Exmor RS.
M Jesper: Now that we know this is possible, they've shot themselves in the leg if they don't update the A6000 as well. Keeping reputation up and all.
If it's possible because of the Bionz X processor, then they could update not only the A6000, but the A7, A7R and A77 II as well.
Has that been confirmed? I know that the rumours said that the KW1 would use a curved sensor, but the press release didn't mention it.
BeaverTerror: Surprise, surprise. Leica has been moving themselves toward obscurity for years. At this point in their history, is ANYONE still expecting them to come out with an exciting, innovative product?
It's also notable that Micro 43 has a combined number of 17.9%, the same as Nikon and just a tiny bit behind Canon! Sure the real life sales numbers tell a different story, but surely a poll which asks about interest in a brand's future products tells an important story about that brand's future sales prospects? Canon and Nikon are setting themselves up to go the way of Kodak. It'll be quite interesting to see how things develop over the next decade.
Your own line of reasoning really tells us that the brands most likely to still be around in a decade, are Canon, Nikon and Sony. That is if this poll really tells us something about future sales prospect.
(unknown member): Hmmm. 20 megapixel APS-C sensor instead of the ubiquitous Sony 24 megapixel sensor. I wonder if this was sourced from Samsung which has been making APS-C sensors of the same spec....?
Sony also makes a 20 Mp sensor. It's used in the A58 and A3000.
Ricoh/Pentax makes very capable cameras, but they need to forbid drinking during working hours.
Torsten Hoff: For when you really need a green color cast on your portrait skintones...
If it's good enough for the Hulk, it's good enough for me!
photoshack: I preordered today based on the timing of things: I was looking for a "backup" camera to my 5dMkIII and was not having much luck with a used 5D and didn't really want to mess with the rebel series. I don't care about sensor size...I can take a good photograph with 6 mp. I have had a X100S (loved it but returned it because fixed lens was not flexible enough) which had the EVF that worked great. My hope is this little camera's EVF is also as good.
The fuji film simulation was really nice, and got me thinking in "chrome" colors again. Anyway, my X100S experience led me to this camera...we'll see how it goes.
The less time you spend in post-processing, the more time you can spend using your camera. I guess that is one reason why some people prefer having things like film emulations, art filters, HDR and sweep panorama in the camera. Convenience is always a selling point.
phoenix15: Suddenly it becomes the most popular camera in DPR ? How come ?
Because it's the most recently announced. The popularity list is based on the number of views in previews/reviews during the last five days. The X30 won't stay at the top for long.
Skipper494: I agree with others, why compare chalk and cheese? Comparing a M4/3 with a FF is absolute nonsense, particularly harping on video when we all know that video cameras take much better video. It would also be nice to see 'professional' standard sample photos, instead of the usual snapshots. For instance, I chose a Fuji S2 Pro long ago after downloading the extra sharp London Bridge shot.
We expect to see the ultimate capabilities of cameras in these reviews, not amateur examples. That an a7S was used to shoot a Chev commercial is hardly a recommendation, an Airbus or even a BMW, maybe.
My Pan M4/3 system is sitting in its bag, waiting for a buyer, but my NEX 7 and Samsung NX20/200 are kept busy.
Of course one can compare cameras with different sensor sizes (and therefore different IQ and DoF control), just as one can compare cameras with different AF performance, ergonomics, build quality etc. It's perfectly valid as long as the intended use cases for the cameras aren't completely different.
Since there are many use cases where both a GH4 and an A7S would be appropriate, what's wrong with comparing them?
NCB: Sensor size isn't quite as important as many believe. 12MP on a 2/3" sensor is roughly the same pixel density as 21MP on a 1" sensor as in the Sony RX100 III. I would expect similar image quality. And 12MP is easily enough for many people.
The EVF is enough to make me seriously consider it. I like optical viewfinders, but framing difficulties with those found in compacts combined with the improved quality of some recent EVFs make me think it's time to move on. The "advances" found on other recent cameras aren't necessarily what people want. So, for those looking for a top quality compact picture-taking machine, I think the X30 will prove attractive.
"All other things being equal, a 16MP full-frame sensor will outperform a 16MP APS-C sensor."
Yes, but all other things aren't equal. To rule out the influence of sensor size, you should compare sensors with the same size, but different pixel density.For example,the impact of photonic shot noise (a property of light itself) depends very much on the total amount of light reaching the sensor, which is proportional to sensor size, not pixel size.So in order to be able to say "all other things being equal", sensor size must be the same.
Leandros S: It wants to be a Foveon when it grows up.
At least for high ISO work the Hasselblad approach probably works better than a (current) Foveon sensor.
Langusta: Ridiculous. Not even worth discussion.What next - if I use self-timer the credit for photo goes to camera manufacturer?If I use leather gloves does the copyright belong to a cow (deceased) or farmer who owned the animal?
The copyright belongs to the photographer, the creator of the image, not to the owner of the equipment. Imagine that you borrowed a camera by a friend, and used it over a weekend, and then your friend would claim copyright to all your images!
If you use self-timer, then you are the photographer, because you set it all up.
In the case with the monkey, the monkey is the photographer, but animals can make no copyright claims, which is the reason for this controversy. I would say that the person who brought the camera to the monkey is the copyright owner.
Petak: How is a camera without a viewfinder a rangefiner-style camera? I'd say it's closer to a tv-style camera :-)))
The E-M10 is just as small and light as the A6000, despite not being rangefinder-styled, and the E-M5 is only marginally bigger. Both cameras are noticeably smaller than the X-E2. The EVF hump doesn't really make the cameras large in the hands. Even the E-M1, X-T1 and the A7 aren't exactly big and heavy cameras compared to most DSLRs.
I'm well aware that the 4/3 sensor is smaller than an APS-C sensor, which explains why the OM-Ds can be so small, but to many photographers the real world difference in performance between the two formats is negligible.
Priaptor: These are JUST the types of "upgrades" or "new releases" that cause consumers to leave a brand.
Not so with Leica. It's hardly a consumer brand, and the diehard Leica fans love this kind of "upgrade". Just look at all the weird special editions Leica have made.