88SAL: Hmmm is this relevant compared to more.... Camera-ey things. Surely the go-pro series is reviewed to death in it's relevant crowd... Lets stick more on topic? Enough of us whinge about certain products the get neglected or even missed... In favour of an action cam which kets be honest is almost strictly a video genre device.
I don't think any camera was neglected in favour of this review, since it wasn't written by any of the regular DPR staff members.
eyefuse: The 4K is a "joke" ... 12FPS isn't usable video - but at least they can put the 4K sticker on the package and keep marketing.
1080p 60fps, on the otherhand is excellent!
Unfortunately I just updated my hero2 to a hero3 last summer.. just before this 3+ version came out... so none of my battery/lcd/case parts will fit this new one.
Let's wait for the 4 - with 4K @ 25fps... :)
"Really good 4K should have 50/60 fps anyway.Otherwise the unsharpness caused by motion blurr is compromising the extra sharpness you get from the extra pixels."
Regarding motion blur, aren't you confusing frame rate and shutter speed? If you record at 12, 24 or 50 fps, but with the same shutter speed, then there should be no difference in motion blur. You get more jerky movements with lower frame rates, of course, but that's another matter.
alcaher: The one at the top left side looks like a japanesse teacher at Harvard, the one at the botoom left side looks like a retired jappanesse actor, the one at the botton right side looks like a lawyer with so many lost cases and the one at the top right side i dont know what does he look like
... but none of them know something about global market and photography.
So I guess you know more about the global market and photography than the Nikon executives?
pancromat: going to their website i don't see spotting scopes and binoculars. i see a manufacturer of high precision industrial and CCTV lenses. so they chose a few lenses off their portfolio which are capable of 4/3" and affordable, put on a MFT mount - thats it. no big invention, no "joining the MFT waggon".
And as you can see here, Kowa is an official member of the MFT group, so in that sense thay have joined "the MFT wagon".
Not every member makes cameras or lenses for consumer use, though. There are several members that makes equipment for industrial use, for example.
DrugaRunda: How much larger is this combo comparing to RX1 as the price is about the same for A7r + this 35mm.
b craw: Vast contrast in energy and forward thinking between Nikon guys and others - anemic attitude on Nikon's part.
But let's not fool ourselves, Nikon is observing a simple economic reality; they did (and arguable continue to) develop a sound DSLR consumer base. And even if they would otherwise be compelled to, many of these customers have invested in multiple lens that discourage a brand change over. This coupled with a marketing mechanism that continues to win out in a bigger-is-better consumer mentality in Western markets. Only at the point of truly diminished returns on this emphasis will Nikon (and Canon) produce better mirrorless models. Even then, both makers will maintain a relatively conservative stance, able to carry over decent numbers milking name recognition. Economics discourage much else innovative, or inspiring until that point, wherein the playing field will be much more level.
All the companies are profit driven, it's just that they may have different ideas regarding how to increase their profits.
Smeggypants: "So you find that in America your customers equate physical size with quality?"
LOL :) - They got that right. :) :)
That might work for specific assignments and planned trips, but for general, spontaneous walkaround use, who wants to carry around such heavy gear?
ljclark: 1. If Nikon is trying to gauge the mirrorless market in North America based on their own product, they are likely suffering from cranial rectal inversion. Maybe Nikon mirrorless sales are declining...
2. I don't know if DPReview was softballing on purpose, but where was the APS-C/D400 question?
3. If Nikon tells us that Dfs are in short supply then I guess we have to believe them. (Assuming they are manufacturing them as fast as possible.) Meanwhile, Fuji showed they how it should be done -- with the X-T1. Odd that in the U.S., which is supposed to be the mirrorless Dead Zone, my local retailer tells me that the X-T1 has produced pre-orders unlike any camera other than the D800.
BTW -- Could we turn the tables and let Nikon license the Fuji X-Trans sensor for a D400? My D300 bodies are getting tired.
Even if you gauge the mirrorless market based on all manufacturers, it's still very small in America and Europe, where roughly four DSLRs are sold for every mirrorless ILC.
hajiaru: nikon please stop making cheap stuff we need more pro dslr 40 50 mpix
The market for professional gear isn't likely to be expanding that much, so who would buy all that expensive gear? It's more important to develop products that make regular consumers open their wallets, I think.
tex: 8th question down, on physical size and quality: That Nikon is doing focus groups with consumers that are this stupid is not a good sign for Nikon. Nevermind what it says about the idiocy of average American consumers....As others have stated, if Nikon wants to stay where it is, #2, it needs to be thinking more out of the box and doing focus groups with a more refined set of consumers of their products---and their critics. Furthermore, they should be extremely circumspect in drawing conclusions about the mirrorless market in the U.S. There are a lot of moving parts to the U.S. market that I bet are not being considered here---and don't draw conclusions based on the Nikon 1 series, for starters. Does anyone really think that if Nikon had produced something like the A7r it wouldn't have been a smash hit? It's already a big hit (critically, and initial production runs were too small for the unexpected demand...) and it's a Sony!
Those smash hits are still not selling anywhere near as well as DSLRs in America and Europe. As the Fujifilm executive said, mirrorless ILCs are still only 10% of the global camera market. So the main problem is not that Nikon 1 isn't a competitive system, it's that the whole concept of mirrorless ILCs is still not widely accepted in western countries.
beavertown: Nikon needs to listen to their customers. Not telling this BS.
Yes, but if, for example, American and European customers are saying that traditional DSLRs is the way to go, not mirrorless, which the sales figures suggests that they do, how should Nikon respond to that?Nikon 1 is not the best mirrorless system, to be sure, but the others aren't doing that well in the West, either. So making a more competitive system doesn't solve the problem of selling mirrorless as a concept to us westerners.
ConanFuji: I've been asking this for a long time. 1/How does it differ from the a 3 yr Nex 5????2/Does it have better IQ?3/How long is Fuji going to be stuck in 16MP. It's been more than 5 years.
More than five years? The system was launched with the X-Pro1 at the beginning of 2012, i.e. two years ago. The fixed-lens X100 is older, but it had a 12 MP sensor.
Jim Radcliffe: Did I miss it? Was there a direct question as to whether there will be an X-Pro 2? Shouldn't that have been one of THE questions asked?
Personally (I own an X-Pro 1 and X-E2) I am happier with the X-E2 but there are many who are waiting for the mythical X-Pro 2. The interviewer had to know this.. why no direct question?
Because these companies never give clear answers to questions about specific products before official announcement. That's why we have all these rumour sites.
Lan: Well I guess that explains the sample variation; hand cementing doublets was not something I was expecting to see!
Actually, if you read the IR article I linked to further down this thread, you'll learn that Sigma nowadays checks every single lens leaving the production line, instead of just doing spot-checking, which seems to be the industry standard.
As many have already said, a great interview with honest and understandable answers. None of that elusive, cryptic marketing mumbo-jumbo that we often get from these people.Also nice to learn that they will complete their lens line-up before committing to another sensor format. I think that is much smarter than trying to be everywhere at the same time, like Sony.
These videos are nicely complemented by Imaging Resource's article on the Sigma factory:
FBoneOne: After shooting canon for over 20 years this is quite underwhelming. They make good cameras but they stopped making exciting ones a while ago. I can remember signing up for canon when the first IS lens came out - changed my life. Or the Eos 3, although the eye control did not work so well, it offered so much of the 1v at a fraction of the price with amazing AF for the time and outstandingly accurate light measure - much better than my Eos 1N. Or the 540ex flash, the first really reliable wireless multi flash system. I just miss a time when canon made me feel that they were advancing photography with huge leaps.
The last time i felt that way was looking at pictures from the Nikon D800e... Or the Leica M Monochrom.
Might be nostalgia hitting, but I wish canon would wow me again.
Enthusiasts on the internet may talk more about Nikon and Pentax, but Canon sells more cameras, and sales is what all of these companies are competing for.
venancio: Couldn't help but notice that the D4S is not triggering much internet hoopla as the Df did... something about crying wolf and it turns out the Df was not a beast... or those Sochi sample pics just didn't show what a D3S can easily do... I'm sure Nikon is noticing this apparent apathy from potential buyers, or non-buyers... are people ignoring Nikon just so the company could feel how it is to be ignored?
It's a professional workhorse camera. The Df was more aimed at enthusiasts, who I'm sure are responsible for most of the internet discussions. Add to that the retro design, which always provoke strong opinions, and the teaser campaign promising "pure photography", and you have a recipe for hoopla.
Rouseabout: I was hoping canon would launch a new competitive mirrorless camera...
I'm pretty sure that Canon will put the 70D sensor in an EOS M in the near future, and they are rumoured to be working on a model with built-in EVF. The big question is if they will release it outside of Japan.
quezra: "Sony has dropped the Tri-Navi operation of the NEX-7 in favor of a more conventional twin-dial approach in the a6000." - this doesn't make sense? It's more like "Sony continues the twin-dial approach of the NEX-6" - there are no mirrorless or DSLR cameras in this price range with more than 2 physical dials?
Yes, I agree that the a6000 may not be the replacement that NEX-7 users were hoping for, but it's a replacement in the sense that the a6000 is what they have to offer you.