mpgxsvcd: I bet that CEO blamed marketing for their products failures.
It just shows that you can't restrict your marketing research to Dubai, Qatar, Monaco and Liechtenstein.
Caerolle: It will be interesting to see how this camera falls out in 'popularity' thing once DPR puts it in that system.
Though for some reason all cameras don't seem to get put there, I don't think the A7s did?
I'm sure A7 or A7R had been on the popularity list, if they had accumulated enough clicks, but obviously they didn't. I don't think that DPR actively chooses not to include certain cameras. Why would they?
marike6: Locking exposure dials a la the Nikon Df? Any amount of money that DPR loves this camera and the dials from day one. :-)
Part of what makes the X cameras at least interesting is the rangefinder design, the whole poor man's Leica thing.
What is the point copying a DSLR body styling? It's has no bright Pentaprism so why the pseudo pentaprism housing?
This is a head scratcher move from Fujifilm that is for sure. No FF, just an X camera dressed up as a DSLR. Has anybody asked why?
So copying SLR styling is pointless, if there is no actual mirror in the camera, but copying rangefinder styling, without having an actual rangefinder mechanism in the camera, isn't?
The fact is, that by placing the new, larger EVF in the middle, Fuji have allowed the camera to be smaller overall, by making it taller only in the middle, rather than along its entire length.
Also, many of us just think that a camera handles (and looks) better if it's designed that way. As I wrote further down this thread, the SLR design may originally have been dictated by the technology inside, but it's an ergonomically valid design in and of itself, even without a mirror and pentaprism. And the same can be said about the rangefinder design. It's very much a matter of personal taste.
Edit: And as usual, people manage to post much better replies while I'm writing. :)
ZoranHR: I think design should represent time in wich product is created instead to imitate past. Imagine arhitecture that still creates renaissance style churches.
I have and shoot with Fujifilm x1oo and Ricoh GR. Ricoh is just much easier to operate. Anytime. Regardless Fuji's "practical" appeal of controls I m convinced in practice that past should stay in past. Usage of past designs now is a bit silly unleast to say and I dont agree with some of you who say this design is more handy.
Funny that you mentioned the renaissance, which basically was an attempt to revive the culture of classical Graeco-Roman antiquity by imitating it. People have always done this.
dougster1979: Curious why you need a "hump" viewfinder. How much time has been invested in getting rid of mirrors and prisms, making cameras smaller,the main benefit of mirrorless. I prefer the xe2,xpro 1, gx7 viewfinder. Each to their own....
I think the horse carriage will make a comeback soon. It encourages a more deliberate and thoughtful driving style, "pure driving".
Mupepe: Sorry: Will they address the inflated ISO behavior? My X-E2 would then benefit from a new fw...
The ISO stated by the manufacturers is defined with respect to the brightness of JPEGs, as the ISO standard prescribes for digital cameras. And the manufacturers may choose to state either the Standard Output Sensitivity or the Recommended Exposure Index, both fully compliant with the ISO standard. Read the CIPA link I posted above.
yabokkie: no more teasing needed.
judging from the photo the camera cannot be anything good.
The most important things to know about photography pertains to composition, exposure and the behaviour of light. The design of the camera is a matter of taste and ergonomics, and have nothing to do with photographic knowledge.
tecnoworld: Looks like the direct competitor for samsung nx30. Samsung has no competitor for x-e2, though.
Nothing wrong with Samsung's IQ, handling or lenses, but E-M5, E-M1, GH3 and A7/R are more in direct competition with the new Fuji, since they're all weather-sealed, whereas the NX30 is not. However, I suppose a weather-sealed body is forthcoming from Samsung, since they released a sealed lens, and that one will probably be a more direct competitor to the new Fuji.
macky patalinghug: FF?I know many will vehemently react to this question.It's just a poor guess so please don't get angry.
It's just a rumor at this stage, I think, and I read it on Mirrorless Rumors a while ago. It will probably not have a zoom lens, though, but rather something similar to Sony RX1.
That's not quite what DxO shows. People misinterpret them, thinking that the manufacturers somehow "lies" about, or "cheats" with ISO. The ISO values stated by the camera manufacturers are defined with respect to the brightness of output JPEGs, in accordance with the ISO standard.DxO's "measured ISO" is something else entirely, and is based on raw values (sensor saturation).
Having said that, there could still be differences between different cameras' JPEGs, but that has to do with differences regarding the Recommended Exposure Index. See this link for an explanation of that:
DPR also has a relevant article:
They have actually stated that they won't make a FF system camera anytime soon. A fixed lens compact might be coming, though...
rb59020: Retro like the Df
Fujifilm is certainly innovative (hybrid viewfinder, novel approaches to sensor design etc.), but I wouldn't call retro design innovative. It's consciously and purposely not innovative.
write2alan: Here is an idea for Fujifilm: Make a camera body that can take Nikon lenses. Make a camera body that can take Canon lenses and etc... You'll sell truck loads of them overnight. Who has Fujifilm lenses? I don't see that many hands up.
Find yourself an old S5 Pro, and you have your Fuji body with Nikon F mount. ;)
inevitable crafts studio: sleep tight nikon 1 developers
I don't think this Fuji camera will take away that many customers from Nikon 1, considering that the typical Nikon 1 user is hardly an advanced enthusiast.
RichRMA: Be embarrassing if it has the same AF performance as their mirrorless cameras. Why even go the DSLR-look route?
Because quite a lot of people prefer how those cameras look and handle. What's wrong with offering different options for different users? It's not like Fujifilm will recall their other models, and re-build them to look like this one. They are branching out, not changing course.
Collie Camp: Even though I don´t like fake SLR designs like the Olympus OM-D and prefer my X-Pro1, this camera looks pretty damn good!
Well done Fuji Design Dep.!
I hear it will be weather sealed?
Why is an SLR-styled camera without a mirror fake, whereas a rangefinder-styled camera without a rangefinder mechanism, is not?
Even though the design of SLRs were dictated by the technology inside them, the design in and of itself is still valid, even without a mirror, to someone who likes how these cameras handle. The same goes for rangefinder-styled cameras, if you like how those cameras handle.
Zoron: whoever bought X-E2 is conned...lol....time to sell
Whenever you buy something, you do so fully aware that something more interesting (and possibly better) will be released in the near future.And as already have been mentioned, this new camera sits higher up in the line-up, and aims (partly) at a different target user.
Pete peterson: It looks like Samsung has it's sights on Sony again. It killed off Sony's (ericsson) strong mobile phone position, it killed of Sony's No1 position in TVs and now it's gunning for their camera position as well.
If the Samsung sensor will be on par with the excellent NEX sensor and the samsung F2-2.8 zoom beats the very average sony PZ 16-50 F3.5-5.6, then this could be the beginning of the end for NEX dominance.The NEX has two things going for it small size and excellent sensor.
So far, Samsung hasn't done anywhere near as good a job marketing and distributing its cameras, as its smartphones, tablets and TVs.
iae aa eia: I don't understand why some guys here don't like the idea of a modular camera. They offer lens interchangeability, the sensor is not ridiculously small, you can have them mounted on your phone (whenever you want), you can achieve far better image quality, can have easier software updates/upgrades, and even pay a lower price. Some guys are even complaining this news should be anywhere else! What is wrong with you, guys?
I love the idea! I have a Nokia 701. Imagine they have its software compatible with Symbian OS and I could buy a mount for, let's say, 200-300 bucks, and then a lens. Awesome! They can even offer handgrips!
The only problem I see with this kind of product is if they ask the same price as an equivalent camera.
It's not necessarily the modularity that people don't like, but the fact that it's a smartphone add-on, rather than a dedicated camera with more photography-friendly ergonomics and controls. The Ricoh GXR, for example, could have been really interesting, if Ricoh had made more lens mount modules for it, rather than "lensor" modules.
Mark Banas: Just a note to the folks questioning validity because certain brands were excluded (while the reason is right there in the introduction). I set the criteria for the heads to be reviewed in order to limit the field to heads that should perform similarly.
Of course, smaller or larger heads may also perform as well, or better, but where to draw the line? If I include a 48mm Markins (Q20) then the 50mm Feisol (CB50) should be in, and maybe even the 48mm FLM. Put in the 38mm Acratech, and there are entire product lines that can fit in the criteria! No sense in making exceptions for some and not others.
So, my apologies if your preferred brand is not in the review group (hey, even I use a Markins Q3 day-to-day), and I really tried to get a Manfrotto for the test, but their top-lock was delayed a bit and some of the sample heads had to be returned by the time it was out. Without all of the heads on hand at the same time, some comparisons would not be possible.
Thanks for all the comments!
As he explained in the footnote, the weight limit is not standardized, and may mean different things depending on the manufacturer.