vroger1: Having used Leicas all my life (in the digital age made by Panasonic) all I want is a Leica that can use its lenses and be in the $800.00 range. If it isn't I'll stick with the Panasonic G line and add a red dot. VRR
Panasonic only makes the D-Lux, V-Lux and C-Lux cameras. They have absolutely nothing to do with the S, M and X series cameras, which are developed and manufactured by Leica, and are made in Europe.
Vladik: I wonder what happens when Kodak stops making sensors for them.
Kodak doesn't make CCD sensors either, since they sold off their sensor division in 2011. It's Truesense Imaging nowadays.
A nice and helpful overview of some of the available options. You could have mentioned that Pixlr supports layers, though, since it's a feature many photographers use extensively.
marike6: There is something strange a mid range camera with class leading IQ / video quality (D5200 is highest rated crop sensor camera on DxOMark, ever), or an absolutely loaded DSLR like the K-30 (100% Pentaprism VF, 16 mp Exmor sensor, weather sealing) being essentially rated as "Mediocre" by DPR.
What is DPR going to do when it reviews the Canon T5i / 700D, which has essentially the same IQ of the T2i / 550D released 2010? A Bronze Award? Or a Silver Award because it has a touch screen?
If DSLRs of the same class are to be judged by price/performance, you'd think that huge improvements in IQ and video (as we see with the D5200) or top end features like a bright 100% Pentaprism VF or weather sealing (like with the K-30) would put these two cameras at the very top of the low to mid-range of DSLRs. But for some odd reason they are not.
Fortunately most users are smart enough to do their own research and don't rely solely on one review site for answers.
K-30 got 78% and a silver award, while D5200 got 79% and a silver award. In the DPR scoring system, 71-80% translates as "Very Good to Excellent". How is that mediocre?Furthermore, the awards are unrelated to the scores, but are given to cameras that the reviewers think deserve a special mention, for one reason or another. Again, how is that interpreted as mediocre?
There's much more to a camera than just a sensor. The camera with the best sensor (as tested by DxOMark) isn't necessarily the best camera all things considered.
Frugaltraveler: they should focus on BETTER BUILT QUALITY! They call the OM-D E-M5 a high end mu43 camera, yet its plagued with Quality problems. (dials falling off, cracked LCD bezel, shutter stuck the list goes on...) Move production back to Japan and get HIGHLY trained engineers build their cameras not low wage on the job trained workers and then rake in HUGE profits.
The E-M5 is one of the better built mirrorless cameras, and the problems you mentioned aren't widely reported. Cameras of all brands occasionally have problems like those, and the few people who are unlucky enough to get flawed units are usually very vocal about it, whereas the vast majority of people who never have any problems, usually don't go online to tell others about it. They just enjoy their cameras instead.
Btw, do you think any camera manufacturer have engineers assembling their cameras? Engineers design and develop cameras, they don't manufacture them.
win39: Olympus has been an occasionally innovative company with interesting ideas, but has never been run well even going back to the film days when they ignored autofocus and raised their prices comparing themselves to Leica. Upgrades came in decades so seldom got reviewed. They dumped all that and went for years without product to develop their first digital SLRs. The recent announcement that they are dumping their DSLR customers formalizing the reality of the last several years is history repeating itself while a newcomer like Sony surges ahead. This is just another segment being abandoned by Olympus.
According to some recent rumours, Sony will stop producing SLTs, and develop a mirrorless solution for the A mount. How is that any different from Olympus' development of a mirrorless solution for Four Thirds?
GeorgeZ: I really wonder what this news does here on the main site, this is at best stuff for Connect.It's been over 100 days since Jeff Keller joined, normally he does 10 reviews in that period of time, here he has done half a review- what is holding him back? Why are 2 former dpr writers now doing cell phone stuff? (Lars and Andy).I thought the amazon purchase would make everything better, I thought Connect wouldn't slow reviews down even more.End of rant.
Here's a link to an explanation of what's involved in putting together a DPR review.
Guenter Borgemeister: >the Editors Awards were given to the Canon EOS 6D and Sigma's DP Merrill series of compacts.
Wouldn´t it be time for the dpreview team to review the DP Merrill series?
I don't think DPR has ever reviewed any medium format camera. They didn't review the Pentax 645D or the Leica S2, so I wouldn't count on a review of the new Leica S.
HowaboutRAW: "quality" is not an adjective. There is no such thing as a "quality job", there is such a thing as a poor quality job.
Strictly speaking, you're absolutely right. Unfortunately, that usage is so common nowadays, that it seems pointless to point out to people that it's incorrect.
By the way, isn't it wonderful when a comments thread goes off on a tangent like this? :-)
In English, nouns can act as adjectives. Examples:security measure, biology teacher, race horse, love story, news reporter, customs office, production costs, class act.And just as you say "class act" and not "high class act", you can also say "quality job" instead of "high quality job". That's because words like "class" and "quality" have a positive (not value-neutral) connotation in everyday language. "He's got class". "This material just oozes quality."
Besides, there are many examples of "incorrect" usage of language, that over time have come to be regarded as correct through frequent usage. That's one of the ways in which languages evolve.
Timmbits: There are some sample pictures posted here (thanks imaging-resource for that) http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/products/dslr/ep5/sample/Some nice pics, especially the first one- it's stunning! But I'm really NOT impressed with the higher ISO ones though (samples 2, 5, 6). Not at all.
I really like the first picture too. Very nice!I'm pretty sure they used the "Grainy Film" art filter for sample 6, so you can't judge IQ by that. I think samples 2 and 5 look decent, if I avoid pixel-peeping, but you can certainly achieve better high ISO results by shooting raw.
quality (adjective): of the very best kind<an antiques dealer who handles nothing but quality pieces>
rallyfan: Photojournalists use the Leica M, eh? To do what, cover the Vietnam war? How many Ms are going to be at the upcoming Champs League final, between two ostensibly German teams at that?...
Either delusional or a misguided attempt at brand promotion. Poseur.
In the interview, Stephan Schultz said:
"Leica had a long history with professionals throughout the 20th century. Most of these professionals were photojournalists. But we realized that in the 21st century, the image of our brand was becoming weaker because Leica was no longer as strongly represented among professionals."
Zvonimir Tosic: I don't understand Olympus. Why they issue an E-Px camera, then also an E-PLx camera which is basically bastardised and cheap E-Px? Why they follow the logic, or the lack of it, of the DSLR manufacturers? For example, why they don't keep the value and the appeal of the E-Px cameras by issuing a separate line of fixed, quality retractable lens cameras with the same sensor and in the similar design (but a camera category that is more like the Coolpix A and Ricoh GR, or even Fuji X100s)? The small form factor of the mirrorless offer would really show its truer potential, and would not devaluate the appeal of the Pen camera. (And then on top those two lines, have an OM-D like offer too). In retrospect, by now they could practically own the market which Fujifilm, Sigma, Nikon ad Ricoh try to create and establish themselves with their fixed-lens, large sensor enthusiast cameras.I appreciate your answers.
Somehow, my brain didn't notice the "perhaps" you put in there.You're right about the Nikon 1, but it seems the Nikon/Aptina implementation of on-sensor PDAF is the only really succesful one so far.
peevee1: "photojournalists who use the Leica M"
Are they delusional?
The M film cameras were frequently used as reportage cameras, but in the digital era Leica probably has lost most of their journalist user base.
Actually, the Leica M cameras are classic reportage cameras, and were used by many journalists for much of the 20th century. There's more to photojournalism than covering sports and press conferences.
According to at least one comparison of the E-M5 and X100s, "The OM-D E-M5 clearly has an advantage here when it comes to autofocus: it is faster, more reliable and more precise."
"The focus lock is slower than what Fuji claims in certain situations, especially in low-light conditions where it has difficulty locking onto subjects."
veroman: I find this to be a very odd camera release. Same sensor. Nearly the same body ... though improved. But the real issue for me is that, with the oversized EVF (an absolute necessity; I find ALL LCD-as-viewfinder based cameras to be inferior to optical viewfinder cameras) and a lens, these micros ain't so micro anymore. Weight and size are up. Cost is up, too.
$1,400 for body, 17mm lens and big EVF? Wow. I can think of any number of smallish DLSRs that will give me a lot more camera, lens and quality for the same or even less money.
So I don't really understand this release. I guess beauty and value are in the eyes of the beholder. This beholder would opt for something like the weather-sealed Pentax K-30 over this new Oly. (No, I have no relationship whatsoever with Pentax or any other camera/lens maker.)
It's a long overdue, major improvement of the E-P3, which did not have the same sensor, 5-axis IBIS, 1/8000s shutter speed, ISO 100, focus peaking, a tilting screen, WiFi and several other features the E-P5 has. Agree about the price, though. It seems a bit steep.
Anepo: GUESS WHAT UK! Even if YOU pass the law, and you steal MY photograph, I can still SUE YOUR ASS and you can NOT win because I do NOT Live in the UK! And you can not put on a law that applies to countries that are NOT in the UK.
Anepo, think about this: if someone in the UK "steals" one of your photos from an internet site, in what country did the crime take place? And what if the crime is not really a crime in that country?
smafdy: The old law protected the creator of a work, just fine. If you didn't "author" a work, you should NEVER be able to own the copyright without the permission of the author, regardless if you can find them, or not.
Corporatism, run amok. The middle class (US and Europe), had better wake up.
The author of the work, whoever it may be, still retains copyright of the work, even if you've acquired a license to use it. That wouldn't be the case if ownership of the copyright had passed to you.