Jeremy Park: I wonder why spend so much effort looking at the latitude of pushing images more than a stop? If you are shooting images more than a stop off correct exposure then the user is the issue, not the camera's ability to bring out low noise images from poorly exposed images.
Yes, this is not about being off by more than a stop by mistake. It's done on purpose to protect the highlights, while still being able to get details out of the shadows. So the point isn't that you shouldn't care about correct exposure, it's about having more leeway in post-processing.
Gesture: Please-a more real-world testing scheme-that has some artistic quality.
Artistic quality isn't necessary to assess the capabilities of a camera, because it has nothing to do with the camera. That's the photographer's contribution to the image.
The Silver Nemesis: The Silver Award is just around the corner. Obviously, this camera cannot compete with the...hm...best in class(😉). But, the majority of the readers here will be happy.
On the other hand, D5 got very good reviews, and, IN MY OPINION, the difference between the two cameras is rather anecdotical and a matter of personal taste. As with the previous generations. So, which one I will choose, now that both are available? I will use a coin - flip it, and let you know about the result.
I think that, for many, the choice mainly comes down to what system they've already invested in.
ThePhilips: Oly & Pana too report (minor) increase in sales. Fuji reported positive results last year too. Thus, the mirrorless has (financially) happened and is here to stay.
Sony reported a decrease in sales, not an increase. The operating income went up though.
Marty4650: HOLY COW! I just saved $6,000!
I just discovered I can turn off the LCD screen of my Olympus EM5! All it takes is pushing that small button on the right side of the EVF housing. Push the button again, and the LCD screen comes back on!
This means I just saved $6,000, that I could use to buy a $2,500 300mm f/4.0 PRO lens, a $1,300 42.5mm f/1.2 lens, and still get a brand new Panasonic GX8 for the remaining $1,200!
Life is good! :)
Unfortunately, you still have the option of turning on the LCD screen. For those $6,000, Leica would remove that option for you.
VENTURE-STAR: Ah well, that's that then. I have no desire to buy any of these cameras as they provide no obvious advantage over a budget SLR aside from size. Thanks Jeff, Carey and Dan.
"as they provide no obvious advantage over a budget SLR aside from size."
I believe the combination of good (or at least decent) image quality in a small package is the whole point of this category of camera. If you don't care about the size, then there are indeed many other options to choose from.
sdh: Some random thoughts on this article:
- The G7x's 24-100 lens gets praise for its "long range" but the same lens in the G5x, and longer-range lens in the G1x II, don't get similar praise.
- The Fuji X30 feels out of place here due to it's smaller sensor size. But then accepting that disparity, then there are a few other models that belong in this comparo too. For example: Olympus Stylus 1s, Nikon P7800, Canon G16. Even if some of those models are a bit dated now, they're still same class as the Fuji X30 IMO.
- The article feels more cobbled together/cut-pasted from previous reviews, rather than a new & comparative evaluation of the group.
Edit: And separately I'm hugely disappointed to read the criticism of the Pana ZS100's lens, as I was/am considering it as my next "carry everywhere" camera.
The Canon G16 and Nikon P7800 are no longer listed as available models, at least not here in Europe. And both have been replaced by models using a larger sensor, although in Nikon's case the DL is not yet available.
mailman88: All cropped P/S cameras will be obsolete in 5 years or less ( blame cellphones)Then enter the full frame P/S camera market from all manufactures at a very affordable price.
That you can buy older models significantly cheaper than their launch price doesn't mean that there's a trend towards less expensive cameras. On the contrary, the camera manufacturers are mostly shifting towards "premium" models to compensate for the declining sales volume. For example, each new generation of A7, RX10, RX100 have had a higher launch price than previous generations. Likewise the A6300 compared to the A6000.
Sorry, but I don't see that happening. FF cameras will only come down in price if production volume increases dramatically.
"Then enter the full frame P/S camera market from all manufactures at a very affordable price."
I'm not so sure about this. The volume needed to sell FF cameras at a "very affordable price" just won't be there. The camera market is shrinking, so if anything cameras will be more expensive as the manufacturers try to raise their profit margins.
NWT: Very strange, we are only 5 months into 2016, and a roundup of the year is here, and most of them are recycling material. What is the point!
It's a continually updated roundup of available models. Seems to me to be a better idea than just updating it once a year.
J A C S: Has anybody heard about a destructive RAW processor?
I didn't even read the headline, but sure, that's sloppily written.
RedFox88: All raw converters are "non destructive " because it's raw data not an image file.
Yes, but all photo editors aren't.
"RAW processor and non-destructive photo editor"
This is both a raw processor and a photo editor that can handle several image formats. Not every photo editor is non-destructive.
Deardorff: What is this "membership" crap?If you can't buy the disk and get updates - why get it? Extortionate like Adobe with Photoshop?
"If you want to purchase ON1 Photo RAW without becoming an ON1 Plus Pro Member[...]"
You can purchase the app without being a member, if you prefer.
BRPWS: I am not sure I get it but maybe Leica fans will. So one of the benefits of an LCD is to judge an exposure in our modern world. If you don't want that or need that then great, but many use digital just for that reason. If you don't need it go back to film.
Also how does one set up their menu options. Looking through the viewfinder? Give me a break.
Isn't the point that there are no menu options? You can control aperture, shutter speed and ISO manually, and that's it.
Marty4650: I'm holding out for a BMW with a mechanical crank starter. Price is no object. Call me when they make one.
I prefer a horse and wagon. I call it 'pure driving'.
Siobhan A: What is shocking is how well the EOS-M is doing in Asia. Last year in Japan as Sony saw their mirrorless market share plummet, the mostly neglected EOS-M took over some of that market share with a good size increase. It goes to show how much support there is for Canon cameras in Asia, and how if Canon put a tiny bit of effort in to their mirrorless cameras, they could easily dominate some other companies. Same goes for Nikon.
The 2016 BCN report (based on sales data from 2015) showed that Canon is now #3 in mirrorless in Japan, with 13.6% of the market, after Olympus (34.5%) and Sony (24.8%).The 2015 report had Sony first (34.3%), then Olympus (22.3%) and Panasonic (11.9%).
More money, less convenience, a brilliant concept!
I'm all for concentrating on the fundamentals of photography (composition, exposure, focus), but I don't see how a rear screen would distract me when doing that. Maybe I'm just not purist enough.
wb2trf: Wow, Canon is in quite a pickle. The big problem is that, in addition to the chronic decline in cameras, the office copier and printer business is also terrible. Somehow I thought that their other lines of business weren't also strategically challenged.
They should make their own adapter for all Canon lenses to Sony bodies and make the adapter work perfectly.
After the dual sensor phone cams hit in 2017, the whole under $1000 dslr market will be plummeting for a few years, the way the compact market did. Mirrorless, who knows but at least its manufacturing cost structure will be better able to take volume declines.
No, of course an EVF isn't without cost. But it doesn't require the precise alignment and tight tolerances of an opto-mechanical assembly. I don't know the costs involved, but I would be surprised if a high quality EVF is more expensive than a high quality OVF/mirror assembly/AF module.