Artpt: the Sony A 5100 has a touch screen and is a great feature to implement in all their product lines. I wonder why they never revisited touchscreen. Like other comments I'm a bit disappointed in this.... everything else seems great.
Clearly Panasonic knows something that Sony doesn't.
Mike FL: Which SONY 24MP sensor is newer/better?
1. The one that SONY gives to FUJI X-Pro22. This one3. Same
Take your pick.
It's likely the same sensor, any differences in IQ being caused by the different colour filter arrays and different signal processing.
Jostian: no weather sealing, pity! not a must I guess but it does just add to the overall package... the new AF looks promising though.
I'll repeat my comment from above:
"It's not weather sealed. Sony admits as much in a footnote to the press release. Just like the A7 cameras, there are no seals (rubber gaskets) like you'd find in say a Canon 7D II, Nikon D500, Pentax K-3 or Olympus E-M5, which are all splash proof bodies. That's why Sony uses the expression "dust and moisture resistance", and state explicitly (in the footnote) that the A6300 isn't splashproof or waterproof. It's made to keep moisture and dust out, but there's no guarantee that it will survive rain or a blizzard."
Raist3d: Richard- any news if the RAW is lossless?
"or just not compressed (and this way how can it not be lossless)?"
'Lossless' and 'lossy' refers to the compression method. If the file isn't compressed at all, it's meaningless to say that it's lossless.
Favorable Exponynt: No touch screen. No sale. No ibis no sale, no battery life no sale really for $1000 they should be able to make a more complete camera. They don't even need to put a mirror or a pentaxprism in it nor 3 or four motors operating it all. Only the physical shutter still reminds of a real camera. :p
It's not weather sealed. Sony admits as much in a footnote to the press release. Just like the A7 cameras, there are no seals (rubber gaskets) like you'd find in say a Canon 7D II, Nikon D500, Pentax K-3 or Olympus E-M5, which are all splash proof bodies. That's why Sony uses the expression "dust and moisture resistance", and state explicitly (in the footnote) that the A6300 isn't splashproof or waterproof. It's made to keep moisture and dust out, but there's no guarantee that it will survive rain or a blizzard.
aramgrg: 2015 was a boring year in terms of camera bodies. Will be interesting to see the same challenge results next year!
Yes, those are all great improvements, but they are incremental improvements of technology already used in cameras. That's evolutionary, not revolutionary.Just to clarify, I'm not critisizing the D500 here. I just think that 'revolutionary' is the wrong word to describe it.
JT26: I really do struggle with the quality of the test shots on this site at times. The ones of the bearded chap are good but some of the others are just no help at all. I dont mean to moan but just wish more thought would go into what viewers want to see from a sample shot.
"Without art and attitude it's just pixels without purpose."
But that's exactly what many gearheads seem to be interested in. If you spend more time downloading and pixel-peeping images from cameras you don't own, than actually using the cameras you (presumably) do own, then you probably aren't very interested in the artistic side of photography.
King of Song: I don't understand why Sony would bother to develop this lens, when the super excellent Zeiss Batis 85mm 1.8 is available?
Sony should be working on some longer much needed focal lengths that are absent from the line up. How about a 300 2.8 Sony?
Sony isn't competing with themselves here, but with a rival manufacturer. The Batis is a third-party lens (a Zeiss, not a Sony Zeiss), so it's not part of Sony's line-up, and Sony doesn't make any money from it.A camera manufacturer should provide a full range of lenses for its system, regardless of what third-party manufacturers are doing.
NetMage: How is it possible to downres from 6K to 4K without some type of pixel binning?
I guess they mean that it doesn't do pixel binning at the sensor before the read-out of data. It reads out every pixel from the 6K area, and then downsizes the image to 4K.
thx1138: Gee dpreview bit over-the-top with the headline, no Sony bias going on here of course.
While some specs are excellent others are pitiful:
1/160 flash x-sync USB 2Only 802.11n1/4000Rear LCD only 921kpNo touch screenNo GPSNo weather sealing
These specs alone see this as a $600 camera, but it seems Sony thinks their AF is worth $400
Still more impressed with Fuji's offerings.
According to the footnote in the press release, it's not sealed so as to make it splash proof. It's constructed for "optimal moisture and dust resistance", whatever that means. It's the same claim Sony makes for the A7 series, and those bodies have no actual seals (as proven by Lens Rentals).
Paul B Jones: Across all brands there seems to be a direct relationship between stellar improvement in cameras and increasing user disappointment. What is up with that?
A lot of it isn't really user disappointment, but rather 'reader of press release disappointment'.
SmilerGrogan: Could someone explain what "weather sealing" means? Because I took a supposedly weather sealed camera out in a light drizzle and it died when the water seeped in. Is there any standard for this? Like are they weather sealed against a monsoon? Hurricane? Gully washer?
If a camera is marketed as 'weather sealed' or 'splash proof', as opposed to just 'moisture resistant', it should be able to withstand a light drizzle without any problems. I wouldn't use any camera unprotected in heavy rain, unless it's waterproof, like a rugged compact.
RStyga: I can just see clearer now the mirrorless advantage on these lenses...
What was that advantage supposed to be? Sure, you can make wider lenses without using retrofocal designs (if the flange distance is shorter), but otherwise? Telephoto lenses in particular shouldn't be expected to be smaller than their DSLR counterparts.
aris14: C'mon guys, we all know that Canon's 5D Mark VI WCM (with coffee maker) was first... (In otherwords long love the cognitive dissonance)...
I only take pictures with my camera because there's no whisky in it. Until this feature becomes available, the usefulness of cameras is rather limted, IMHO.
D500 is not a revolutionary improvement. Nikon put the AF system from their latest flagship FF camera in a pro-grade APS-C body, just like they did with the D300. It's the latest iteration of the same concept. A revolution, IMHO, should offer something truly new and unique, not just the latest and greatest example of current technology.
Dodge_Rock: There were only a handful of candidates to choose from and no option for a write-in. No love for the 1st fixed lens 2000mm camera, Nikon P900?
The P900 was included in the first round, where it got 4.8% of the votes, so it didn't make it to the final round.
FantasticMrFox: Not exactly surprising results considering you presented only a handful of options with some brands not represented at all. I thought the Pentax K3 II was the best APS-C of the year, funny enough that was not an option. How hard can it be to provide a range of options >7?!
The K-3 II was included in one of the four polls of the first voting round. It got 6.8% of the votes and didn't make it to the second round. The first round included 36 cameras and 16 lenses, so a few more than a handful.
Timbukto: I thought the first image was a fancy optical adjustment bench. But it's just hand sanitizer station. I think Chipotle needs some of those.
Also why on earth would anyone need to unbox a unit to QC vs just QC prior to boxing? Shady boxing workers? Or just nonsensical workflow?
This is nothing new or strange. It's called a 'final random inspection' and it's always done as the very last step before shipping the products. The purpose isn't just to check the product itself, but also to check the quality of the packaging, that everything is included in the box, that the labels on the box are correct, in short that nothing has gone wrong right up until the last step before the shipment leaves the factory. This is in addition to the QC that is done before and during production (testing of raw materials, visual inspection during assembly etc.).
sebastian huvenaars: it's probably normal to long back to good old day's in times where you long back to the good old days. But trying to copy what once was doesn't get us any further. I fuckin hate retro.
Retro is fine by me, if it's a good, practical design. The same goes for modern designs.
c45: Humans are more responsive to analog displays, remember what happened to digital-display wrist watches? Just because modern electronics makes the totally menu-driven controls possible it doesn't mean they are the best. In a complicated, feature-reach system having menus is unavoidable but its extreme implementation is as stupid as removing an aperture ring from modern lenses. Oh, wait; I can go though few levels of menu buttons to select the aperture and then conform my choice on the LCD display. Who would call that a progress? There is nothing more ugly, uninviting and cheep "plastic-y looking" as a typical modern SLR, they all look like a black, blow-molded milk containers. The mirrorless system is the future; the EVF technology will mature in few years, the mirrorless will surpass the burst capacities of most advanced "pro-level" SLRs, SLR-system will slowly die off. Rest-In-Peace DSLR!
To the OP, even if DSLRs will be completely replaced by mirrorless cameras, what makes you think that the form factor will disappear? We've seen plenty of DSLR-looking mirrorless cameras already (Panasonic G and GH series, Samsung NX series, Sony A3000), and it's the most common form factor in the bridge camera segment.