Craig from Nevada: This is pretty good deal. When the price settles down a bit, it will even be a better deal.
I would say the E-P5 and any offspring have run their course and are rendered obsolete by this camera. The EPL and EPM still serve some purpose in the Oly line up.
OMD occupies a nice niche in the camera market. It will be interesting to see if Olympus can make a buck selling these cameras.
Since the E-P5 shutter is capable of 1/8000s, it's probably not the same one as in E-M5 and E-M10.
If the output of this camera at ISO 200 is "not good", "unacceptable", "noisy", blah, blah, blah, as so many posters claim, and there are two stops difference between m43 and FF, does that mean that the output of Nikon FF cameras at ISO 800 is "not good", "unacceptable", and "noisy"?
Exposure is a function of light per unit area, and is independent of total amount of light collected by the sensor. Sensor size does influence other things though.
eivissa1: The testphoto's show that the Panny GM1 shows just a little more detail. Agressive noisereduction in the E-M10?
Depending on where I look, I see (or think that I see) more detail from one camera or the other. The NR is likely not applied globally, but locally depending on the kind of detail in the specific part of the image. In general, Olympus' output pleases me more than Panasonic's, but it's a matter of taste for sure.
Native ISO is a physical property of the sensor. Lowering the native ISO means that the sensor is less sensitive to incoming light, which in turn means that the signal needs more amplification to achieve the higher effective ISOs. And more amplification leads to more noise.Also, with a native ISO as low as 25, photon shot noise will become more visible, so you may not gain as much as you'd wish, even at low ISOs.
_P: I consider myself a long term and loyal Olympus customer. I starter with them back in 2005 with E-1 + 14-54 and 40-150/3.5-4.5 double kit. What a wonderful piece of photographic equipment! Especially the lenses. Then, to be honest, I could hardly find a candidate for upgrade… I got E-PL5 meanwhile for my wife and 25/1.4 and 75/1.8 primes for myself waiting for something like E-M1. Then, when it came out I was hoping to put my 14-54 back to work again…
Sometimes I think that the people frequenting camera gear forums aren't really looking at pictures. They seem to only be interested in the pixel level. Composition and subject are more interesting to me than what I see when looking at photos at 100%. If you zoom in so far that you lose sight of the composition as a whole, then you're looking too closely IMHO.It's different with scientific, industrial and surveillance photos, of course, where the pixel level might be very important, but for artistic photos and everyday snapshots, I think too much is made of very small differences between cameras.
Hubertus Bigend: A waste of time and energy... As much as I like Olympus for stuff like the E-M1, this is just pointless marketing talk. Nothing of substantial interest whatsoever has been said...
And of course you speak for everyone. Personally, I think it's quite interesting to learn how the camera companies see the global and regional markets, what trends they see, what strategies they have, and so on.Talk about specific technological innovations and products in development, are interesting too, but the companies usually don't share much information of that sort. Hence the existence of rumour sites.
Just a Photographer: The s stands for Software update?
Come on Nikon what kind of update is this really?
I agree that it's not an exciting update, in terms of new technology or features, but it still seems like more than just a cosmetic update, like the 700D was.However, if the promised improvements of performance are barely noticeable in practice, then it's certainly not much of an upgrade.
kinglau711: WOW not able to bring a single real innovation in two years !
Even incapable of adding a GPS, WIFI or a viewfinder as large as the 5D Mark III and 1DX.
Having GPS in a camera that is going to be used by reporters is perhaps not a good idea. Some countries prohibit the use of GPS devices.
babalu: ...in five to ten years any camera with a mirror box will be as antiquated as film cameras are today .
Only a gear junkie would say that a certain type of camera is only for gear junkies. People who are interested in taking photographs care more about how they use their camera, than about what type of camera they use. Any camera that allows control of basic photographic parameters can be put to serious photographic use.
cgarrard: ISO 409,600
Yes, this must be a sad day for all those elusive, black cats.
The sensor is supposed to be new, and they promise improved image quality, processing speed, AF performance, battery life and ergonomics. Aren't those the kind of improvements a working professional would want?
At first, I thought Casio EX-100 was a typo, and that they meant EX-10. But it seems that Casio has released another enthusiast compact, this time with a 28-300mm F/2.8 lens, similar to (or the same as) the one in Olympus Stylus 1. The form factor is the same as EX-10, though, so no built-in EVF.
I wonder why these are only released in Asia? Has Casio abandoned the European and American markets completely?
venancio: If you don't need the D4S or Fuji XT 1 equipment to come up with the processing objective of this release candidate, are they able to include one for the 7D Mark II and D400 to pacify a lot of people ? If you actually need the equipment, did Adobe already receive way way back, maybe many moons ago, a working unit from Fuji and Nikon? Yeah, it's only the profile, and then another revision will come when the actual production unit of these cameras become available... the Sochi games bring more excitement than the pre announcement of the D4S, pardon my naivete... and I see a lot of white colored lenses in the games... where's my converter that will allow me to use Fuji lenses on my Nikon bodies? Oh, ok, so there's one that will allow me to use those white lenses on my Nikon bodies? Cheers :)
Considering that the E-M10 gets preliminary support, whereas no such qualification is made regarding D4S and X-T1, I'd imagine they've had access to production-quality units for a while.
Eigenmeat: ACR is still a blurry mess compare to OOC JPGs.
Try not to pixel-peep.
Sdaniella: not sure why gopro , primarily a videocam not a stills dcam, is at all reviewed, never mind mentioned, when others aren't. and that specs not be included along with conventional dcams that also do videos, especially absent in the dpr comparison database.
how does it compare to, say Canon's new VIXIA mini X vcam/dcam for portability/mobile 'action' needs ? (includes liveview screen for realtime monitoring or review).
the gopro type has compactness only when recording without a monitor for playback or review later. one has to bring some additional computer hardware which means both reviewing and processing in the field for immediate sharing a bit less portable.
I may be wrong, but isn't this a 'freelance' review? The writer isn't a member of the regular DPR staff. In other words, I don't think DPR reviews action cams or other video cameras, and that's why you won't find them in their database.
luben solev: Or you could just usel Google+ if you are on Android (or something else if you are an iPhone user) and set it to back up your full-res photos to "the cloud" over either 4G, 3G or WiFi. Then you can download all the photos to your PC as and when you want.
The downside of this method over EyeFi is that you are doing two actions instead of one. But if you have fast internet connection the time loss should not be too bad.
And the big advantage over Eye-Fi is that your photos are on an offsite backup, so if your PC gets stolen or breaks or your house burns down, you can still get your photos from said cloud.
Don't your method involve three steps? You have to transfer your photos from the camera to the phone or tablet first. And if the camera doesn't have built-in WiFi, isn't that when the Eye-Fi cards come in handy?
88SAL: Hmmm is this relevant compared to more.... Camera-ey things. Surely the go-pro series is reviewed to death in it's relevant crowd... Lets stick more on topic? Enough of us whinge about certain products the get neglected or even missed... In favour of an action cam which kets be honest is almost strictly a video genre device.
I don't think any camera was neglected in favour of this review, since it wasn't written by any of the regular DPR staff members.
eyefuse: The 4K is a "joke" ... 12FPS isn't usable video - but at least they can put the 4K sticker on the package and keep marketing.
1080p 60fps, on the otherhand is excellent!
Unfortunately I just updated my hero2 to a hero3 last summer.. just before this 3+ version came out... so none of my battery/lcd/case parts will fit this new one.
Let's wait for the 4 - with 4K @ 25fps... :)
"Really good 4K should have 50/60 fps anyway.Otherwise the unsharpness caused by motion blurr is compromising the extra sharpness you get from the extra pixels."
Regarding motion blur, aren't you confusing frame rate and shutter speed? If you record at 12, 24 or 50 fps, but with the same shutter speed, then there should be no difference in motion blur. You get more jerky movements with lower frame rates, of course, but that's another matter.
alcaher: The one at the top left side looks like a japanesse teacher at Harvard, the one at the botoom left side looks like a retired jappanesse actor, the one at the botton right side looks like a lawyer with so many lost cases and the one at the top right side i dont know what does he look like
... but none of them know something about global market and photography.
So I guess you know more about the global market and photography than the Nikon executives?
pancromat: going to their website i don't see spotting scopes and binoculars. i see a manufacturer of high precision industrial and CCTV lenses. so they chose a few lenses off their portfolio which are capable of 4/3" and affordable, put on a MFT mount - thats it. no big invention, no "joining the MFT waggon".
And as you can see here, Kowa is an official member of the MFT group, so in that sense thay have joined "the MFT wagon".
Not every member makes cameras or lenses for consumer use, though. There are several members that makes equipment for industrial use, for example.