ttran88: Rumors are Ricoh is buying Samsung imaging division. The two have had previous business relationships so this is no surprise.
Just as with Sony and Panasonic, there is no sensor division; there's a semiconductor division that makes several kinds of components (sensors, processors, memory etc.) for all kinds of electronic devices, not just for cameras. And they have many customers besides Samsung's own consumer electronics divisions.
I would be very surprised if Samsung sold off their semiconductor business, just because they failed in the camera market.
iudex: Ad: "We purposely excluded the Nikon D4s and Canon EOS 1D X from this roundup as we feel the capabilities of both cameras put them in a class of their own." So why include the Pentax? Medium format is definitely a class of it´s own, however DPR indicates the 645Z is not even able to compete with top FF.
"DPR indicates the 645Z is not even able to compete with top FF."
No, they don't. D4s and 1D X aren't considered to be in a class of their own because of their IQ, but because they are high-performance sports/action cameras, which the 645Z definitely isn't.
shademaster: seems like the "advanced amateur" market is disappearing. soccer moms use their iPhones instead of their D5100 or T3i. I think all the ILC vendors were hoping to pick up these consumers from canikon, but those consumers simply stopped buying this class of product.
Soon, there will be either pro-level or camera-phone with nothing in between. I'm an NX user and I'm sad. If I were a Fuji or μ4/3 user, I would be worried.
"Fuji was, and is a camera company. A photography company. Film, even. They don't have a lot to fall back on if cameras fail."
Not true. Photography equipment is not their main business. It's a smaller part of their overall business than it is for Canon and Olympus. And of the major manufacturers, only Nikon has photography equipment as their main business.
As you can see on p.6 in their annual report for fiscal year 2014, imaging solutions account for only 15% of their business.
Nick932: DPReview states that Leica SL has "Very limited lens selection" is a total miss. One of the strengths of this camera is that one can use all Leica lenses and cine. This is a dream come true that no other company has achieved this 100% or as match as Leica SL. We are waiting for this feature ever since digital was put in production. There is a limited selection of AF; but, they just made the camera. I do not know about your judgements any more.
They are of course talking about native lenses, not adapted ones.
simontramper: You can still buy online ,how many of you buy things now you have handled. It doesn't say they have stopped making camera's.
But if a company has withdrawn from a market, there's no guarantee that they will support their products anymore in that market, and they might not honor the warranty of imported products.
teddoman: Interesting that no one is talking about the massive cost cutting that has been going on at Samsung. This has a lot more to do with across the board retrenchment at Samsung than any specific successes or failures of NX mount. I guess we take things a bit personally though :)
But don't you think that the unprofitable businesses would be shut down before the more profitable ones?
Thorgrem: The logical conclusion of all these buy guides is that Amazon greatly overestimated the demand of Sony camera's and still have a huge stock left that needs to be sold. Why else such useless articles without use cases?
While the old model usually is discontinued as soon as a new one is released (but sold as long as stocks remain), this is not always the case. Sony has specifically stated that new RX100 models don't replace the old ones; the older models just live on at a lower tier in the line-up. And as long as a model sells in reasonable numbers, it will probably continue to be produced. They are likely doing the same with the A7 line.
mobyline: Hi folks,please help me understanding this point under Cons: "Camera drops to 12-bit mode in continuous shooting, dropping dynamic range"In my opinion this technically not true. The dynamic range is a result of the whole system, dropping to 12bit doesn't change that. After dropping there are only less steps representing the dynamic range. The effect will be banding visible earlier. The extreme example is, you can represent the whole dynamic range with 1bit only... 0 for the darkest point and 1 for the brightest one.
Am I wrong?
What the OP is saying is that DR and bit depth are two different concepts. The former is the difference between the brightest recordable value and the point at which the signal gets swamped by noise, and it's expressed in EV or 'stops'. The latter is the number of bits you use to represent that DR.The length of an interval and the number of discrete units you divide that interval into, are two different things. So changing the bit depth doesn't necessarily change the DR, but it of course depends on where in the range information is discarded.
Ben O Connor: Great artixle. But also must consider gap between size/logic.
Forexample; why the m4/3 camera be about the size of a leica m camera ? Whilenit has hald the size sensor in it ?
Shouldn't camera size primarily be dictated by ergonomic considerations? If a camera of a certain size handles perfectly in your hands, why wouldn't you want that same size regardless of sensor size?
Jonathan Crilly: I think this article is useful in highlighting some of today's issues with mirrorless. However in 5-10 years DSLR's will be a niche product and mirrorless will be the most prevalent technology. The functionality provided is better, the focussing technology is better and more accurate and will catch up with and surpass DSLR's. The two dinosaurs - Canon and Nikon will develop full frame mirrorless cameras in order to compete with Sony/Samsung and will no doubt bring out or improve APS-C models. None of the issues highlighted are insurmountable. Once we had manual focus cameras that used film, now we have autofocussing models that use digital technology to record images. As sure as night follows day, mirrorless will replace current DSLR technology.
Nobody claimed that DSLRs dominate the entire market of photographic devices. All they say is that DSLRs still outsell mirrorless cameras within the interchangeable lens camera segment. You may think it's wrong to limit the discussion to that particular market segment, but others might disagree.
TheGreatfulBread: Why no Panasonic LX100?
Because it has a zoom lens, not a prime lens.
Lan: The J5's sensor is the surprise/revelation for me - based on the studio comparison in isolation it's a very good performer; not far behind the APS-C sensor in the Sony. That's quite an achievement for a 1" sensor!
Also, the PDAF implementation used in the Aptina sensors, is a Nikon patent, IIRC. So not necessarily unique to Aptina sensors.
Thom Hogan thinks it's a Sony sensor too. Aptina doesn't make sensors for cameras anymore, since they were bought by a company that mainly makes sensors for automotive applications.
samhain: I bet a full frame x100 would get those sales back up...
A full frame X100 would be in the same price range as the Sony RX1R. Hardly a high volume product, and definitely not the kind of product that would bring back the general non-enthusiast consumer to the digital camera market.
Zvonimir Tosic: Indeed, how much they can sell of the same?
Year by year sales figures for imaging industry is a total nonsense of a benchmark, because it is obvious that industry follows some cycles of new development, and then renewed sales in some areas. Every undergraduate knows that corresponds to some sort of sine function graph.
So who really cares how much camera sales are down if sales will pick up again in a few years, with next-gen of tech, new wave of users, etc?
We haven't seen any such cycles in the digital camera market so far. Rather, we've seen steady growth for more than a decade, followed by a steep decline (for compact cameras almost a free fall) since 2012. And interestingly, the growing strength of the emerging markets hasn't done anything to mitigate that decline. The camera market is shrinking everywhere.
I have no idea what is necessary to renew growth in the camera market, but none of the current products suggest that the manufacturers are on the right track.
juvx: Looks like EVERY Nikon sensor will be made by Sony now.
No, Nikon doesn't only "tweak" Sony sensors. They designed their own sensors for the D3/s and D4/s, as well as the 24 MP sensor in the D3200. All of which were manufactured by Renesas.
ThomasH_always: This is a shockingly tiny, outright microscopic amount. Just think of Apple's multi-billion spending for some no-name headsets called, Bits or Bids, whatever.
I would rather expect a price in the range of 50 Billion. Even than this would be bargain for Sony.
This isn't just related to cameras. Most sensors are made for smart devices, industrial and medical equipment, security cameras etc. Anyway, without knowing the size of Toshiba's business, we can only guess at a reasonable price tag.
T3: I just wonder if there's really enough of a market for another big, chunky FF DSLR at a time when FF mirrorless is coming into play. We're at the beginning of an inflection point in the camera market. Pentax may be a little too late to the game with this FF DSLR product line. I think it would have been a lot more interesting, and future-forward of Pentax to have introduced a FF mirrorless body instead.
It's sometimes suggested that the main reason for the current decline in camera sales, is market saturation. I don't think it is, because the emerging markets in Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America can hardly have reached the same level of household penetration as the Western European, Japanese and North American markets.I really think that the smartphone is the culprit, because it has conquered both the established and the emerging markets. More and more people decide that a dedicated camera simply isn't necessary, and that a smartphone is good enough for them.
NYCman530: Considering the fact that the G5 X and the G7 X both have one inch sensors and same focal length and fast lens 1.8-2.8, are there other factors that make a difference in image quality? I am impressed with the good quality EVF that was added to the G5 X . Looks ergonomic with a decent grip, but like the G7 X, battery life could be better.
I don't think we should expect any IQ differences. The G5 X and G7 X are differentiated by their ergonomics and handling, and the EVF.
Shiranai: What I dislike in Sony is, that you're basically paying a huge 3.2K for a camera that will be replaced in just 1 year. Same as the R II replaced the R in roughly 1 year. That would totally annoy me if I bought a flagship which is rendered old after such short time.
With Canon, Nikon and all the others you have at least around 3 years till they replace their (flagship) models.I mean take the 5DMk2 (2009) and the 5DMk3 which came 2012, 3 years later. And we're still waiting for a Mk4.
And I think this is better, because you don't want to pay a sh*tload of money for something that ages as fast as your smartphone.
A camera doesn't need to be replaced as soon as a new model is released, and there's no reason to get angered. You use your camera until it breaks, or no longer is sufficient for what you want to do. Do your requirements change so fast, so that you always need to have the very latest features?