RichRMA: The issue is being taken seriously by the mfg? And here I thought a chronic 60% defect rate would be taken lightly.
I stand corrected, but then this sentence needs to be rewritten:
"Out of about 10 copies of each model, 6 contained sensors with noticeable defects in their sensor stacks."
As it stands, it says that 6 out of 10 of each model was affected, not 6 out of the total of 20.
Yeah, it clearly says 6 out of 10 of each model, i.e. 12 out of 20.
RomanP: Is this a joke? $7.5k for a high end B&W point and shoot? How does this company remain in business?
How is it a point-and-shoot? It's a fully manual interchangeable lens camera. Leica's rangefinders are basically the opposite of point-and-shoot.
mpgxsvcd: I think the biggest problem I have is that Dpreview doesn’t understand its own audience. We simply don’t want to hear about this camera. It isn’t something that we would ever consider buying. We accept that you don’t EVER talk about products from RED or the high end Panasonic video cameras because we know that not many people here would ever buy those.
So why is this camera so special? What makes Dpreview think that their readers want to have this camera shoved in our face every couple of days. For once and for all. Stop pimping this camera to us. We get it that you think it is revolutionary. However, we simply don’t see it that way.
You should replace the word 'we' with 'I', and 'us' with 'me'. Even if yours is the majority view, you're not the spokesman of the entire DPR readership.
Mohamed Rizwan: $2500 for this camera where as Gh4, FZ1000, LX100 are available for less price. Canon made this camera for foolish peoples who thinks canon is god. SONY coming with rx10 mark2 and rx100 m4 with 4k. Come on canon stop preparing useless cameras. Learn from panasonic and sony.
Try comparing the price to other camcorders targeted at the ENG market.
nunatak: "It’s easy enough to create a jpeg, but creating raw files would have required some different programming on the processor, which we decided was not a cost effective option. "
too bad. how long before the XC10 Mark II will address this deal breaker?
"You need a Raw file before creating a JPEG file."
Not really. A JPEG is created in-camera from the raw sensor data, just like a raw file is. Both file types involve some image processing, I don't think any manufacturer give us untouched raw data in their raw files.
Anyway, the camera doesn't need to create a raw file first to be able to create a JPEG.
Papi61: $2,500 for a fixed lens camera with a 1" sensor? At 1/3 of the price, the Panasonic FZ1000 looks like a much better deal. You also get 120fps @1080p, which I don't believe this Canon has.
There are camcorders with even smaller sensors that cost even more, and they can't shoot stills at all. Considered in a video camera context rather than a stills camera context, the price is not extreme at all.
"The other benefits over the Olympus system is that it could be faster [...]"
The word 'other' in that sentence makes it seem like the increased colour resolution and moiré reduction are also benefits over the Olympus system. This is not correct, since the first four exposures in Olympus' implementation serve the very same purpose. The last four exposures, off-set by a half pixel vertically and horizontally from the first four, serve to capture more detail and thereby increase linear resolution.
zakaria: I assume there will be a mark2s including built in flash and Wi Fi.this is what ricoh did with k5 series.there were 3 k5s at the market at the same time.
The K-5 was replaced by the K-5 II and K-5 IIs, the difference being that the latter didn't have an AA filter. No need for two different versions of the K-3 II, since it has the AA filter simulation feature.
The Davinator: Best sports camera just got better.
"Take the sensor out. Do you have a camera? "
Yes, it's still a camera, although not a camera you can actually use, just like you couldn't use a film camera without a roll of film. It was still a camera without the film, though.
In fact, it was possible to review a film camera without mentioning the properties of any specific film. Likewise, it's possible to assess other properties and features of a digital camera, without even mentioning the sensor. There are many things about a camera that are important, such as ergonomics, user interface, operational speed, AF speed and accuracy, metering, connectivity options, battery life, etc.
RichRMA: Hardly self-powered. Just more photovoltaic applications. Could be used to monitor wildlife for long periods, that kind of thing.
Self-powered in the sense that it neither needs to be connected to an external power source, nor runs on batteries that need to be charged using an external power source.But of course it receives energy from the outside, since it's not a perpetuum mobile.
TORN: "equivalent to 24mm on APS-C" is not right. It is 24mm relative to full frame.
Light per unit area determines exposure, and hence image brightness, which is not irrelevant. Surely, in practice, most photographers are trying to achieve a certain exposure, not a certain noise level? You work within the constraints of your chosen sensor format, fully aware of its impact on DoF and noise levels.
Bjrn SWE: "... and can function at temperatures as low as -10° C/14° F. "DPreview
This suggests that this lens will probably not work outside in wintertime!?
That's the minimum temperature that the manufacturer guarantees that the lens will work at without problems. In reality, it will likely withstand lower temperatures, but if it doesn't, you can't blame the manufacturer.
Simon97: Finally, a glimpse into this Sony (?) 20mp sensor. Seems on par with the fabled 16mp APS-C sensor and a bit less noise than the 24mp sensor.
Sony used the 20 MP sensor in the A58, A3000 and A5000, so we've had plenty of glimpses already.
Timur Born: "making it the first truly 'pocketable' compact high-zoom camera with a built-in electronic viewfinder"
Sorry, but no. The TZ70 may come with 5 mm more height, but in return it comes with 1.6 mm less depth. And in this general height x width size category it's depth that defines how pocketable a camera is. I guess you can put both in a jeans pocket, but the LF1 still trumps them in size (only up to 200mm in return for a bigger sensor).
For comparison, the HX90 is 36 mm deep, the LF1 is 28 mm. And while you can squeeze a RX100 into a jeans pocket the LF1 does that far more comfortably because of its lesser depth.
Still a nice offering, if only Sony would include a raw file format, which the Panasonics do.
DPR never made that claim. It's from the press release, so it's Sony's words.
It's probably not worth anyone's time to fact check every claim made by the manufacturers' marketing departments. We all know that they have their own definition of the truth.
Eleson: If optical steady shot means 'in-lens' then I don't understand 5-axis stabilization?
I don't think the sensor shifts at all. Some Panasonic and Olympus compacts has '5-axis' stabilization that is achieved by combining optical and electronic stabilisation.
riveredger: It's funny that some of these lenses are priced higher than motorcycles. I mean, really!?
Unless you have actual knowledge of the profit margins for motorcycles and high end lenses, that's pure conjecture.
It tells you something about the cost and complexity involved in making high quality optical equipment. Also, the really expensive lenses are low volume products, which drives up the prices even more.
KonstantinosK: Wow. One wonders why it took them so many years to offer the obvious. If I was to buy again a camera in this class it would probably be this. Next, Olympus, please make a rugged version of the XZ-2.
"Lens distortion is not an effect of the raw file."
No, but an uncorrected raw file makes it visible. I think that Ocolon's point was that the makers of tough compacts might not want us to see exactly how severe the lens aberrations are.
The fact that Olympus now offers raw capture could mean that the particular lens used in the TG-4 is actually quite good, and the reason for not offering raw in previous models could be that they didn't think that the target market cared about it.