jjlmoose: I'm really surprised the whole EVF shutting down the camera thing is getting so over blown... You simply pop it up when you need it and it's only active when you eye is up to it, therefore the only time you need to press it back down is when you're ready to put the camera back in your bag/pocket... i.e. when you're done shooting... Huh, kinda makes sense now doesn't it...
No it doesn't. In my opinion, you want to put the EVF down once you're done using it because it protrudes and you're affraid to damage it. This might be psychological but, hey, what can you do about it? This feature could and should be optional.
Orileyuk: I am very impressed so far by many comments on the RX100 m3, samples ,video samples . I as many others as yet in the UK , can not physically check out the EVF . So , for yet another month we have to wait and rely on what we read . Apart from the huge price ( compared to an iPhone etc ) , it is the camera which will suit myself . My only concern is the EVF and it's last ability . Would some of you guys who have the RX100 m3 share their experience with the EVF ?
Another month in the UK? The physical/online photo shop where I pre-ordered my RX100M3 (colorfoto.pt) delivered it at my home in Lisbon last Friday. (They did phone asking me whether I was still interested because they had plenty of customers hovering around in the hope of getting the camera.) I've been shooting since then. I'm an amateur but I'm impressed. An important point is "pocketability". The camera is easily pocketable, but one should be careful about what's in one's pockets. I once permanently damaged a camera because there was sand in my pockets from a previous afternoon at the beach. As for the EVF, I too find the feature of turning off the camera when it is put back into its place annoying. In my view, the EVF is very good and I really like shooting with it (which, by the way, makes the mandatory shutdown of the camera even more annoying). The camera is perhaps a bit too small, although its weight feels utterly comfortable. All in all, I'm delighted with my purchase.
Bought this camera after reading this thoughtful, balanced and well-written review. Now it's time for shooting.
dpmaxwell: That shot of the liquor bottles is not very impressive to me.
The focus is in the very forefront.
tgutgu: Well, the first usage impressions tell me enough, not to buy this camera, as the issues Richard Butler points out are to me just not some niggles, but deal breakers. Really disappointing. A non-clicking wheel? Ergonomic disaster. A view finder, which switches off the camera when put in no usage? No go.
Richard Butler unfortunately says that such issues are no major points to be criticized. I can't understand this mild reaction. It is the third incarnation of a RX100. How many years do have camera vendors experience with contructiing camera and camera ergonomics? Is that all new to them?
No. There shouldn't be any excuses for such mistakes (until they are corrected). The camera shouldn't be bought (of course it will, unfortunately).
I was quite enthusiastic about the RX100 MK III when reading about the view finder, however, with only 800x600 resolution and its apparent lag in low light, it seems that we need at least another camera generation that such a good feature is done right.
I would be ok with the clickless wheel. But then I'm just the regular, unsophisticated shooter type. But understand your concerns; would it be possible to have it both ways? I guess so.
The "Shooting Experience" section is fair and brilliantly written. I've made up my mind about buying this camera.
StillandMovingImages: It is the cost. Even though the DSLR's and MILC's are being made in China for less, the prices we would pay are so much higher than the cost of a compact digital or a cellphone that there is no comparison. While cellphone cameras still leave a lot to be desired for a true photo enthusiast, the pictures from a compact digital with a good lens and sensor are not that far off from DSLR or MILC. Throw in the factors of bulk, weight, and the poor quality control issues and it is a giant stop sign. I've spent plenty in the past on film based cameras, but despite my love of photography, I just cannot justify the outlay for DSLR or MILC at the prices being charged. Plus if my compact conks out, gets lost or stolen, I can afford to buy another. With a DSLR or MILC system, my insurance deductible is 2 to 4 times the cost of a new compact. Lower the prices, fix the quality control problems and the sales will come back. My 2 cents.
Except that compacts' sales have declined faster than DSLRs and MILCs for most companies.
N13L5: People seem to have collectively forgotten how to run a business without perpetual growth. Perpetual growth is the wrong goal to chase on a finite planet.
I'm an economist specialized in economic growth. I have never seen a colleague arguing that growth could actually come to a zero long-term rate. I think such an outcome might very well be the case at some point in the future. Some economists will argue that while the planet is finite, human ingenuity is not. Ingenuity could fuel economic growth for the foreseeable future. I'm not of that persuasion.
raygraham: This big baby looks the business to me and having sold my Nikon D600 in favour of my Fuji XE1 I now need a second camera which was going to be an XE2 but it'll probably now be an X-T1 - although will Fuji launch the X-Pr2 soon? Fuji move very quickly so I think I'll hang on during which time the X-T1 will be cheaper. Having made the final decision I suppose they'll then bring out a full frame version - How dare they with all my X lens purchased!!!
Yeah - for ideological reasons :-) I'll only consider Fuji or Sony (ex-Minolta) for my next buy. And surely this baby is handsome!
bugbait: I enjoyed looking at these images. Far more than utilitarian the composition is very interesting in several as well as beautiful, the woman with the orange handbag particularly made me stop, the underpass etc.
Most of that is the quality of the photographer but as he pointed out the camera got out of the way and let him get his groove on. Life is short and we have all forced our way forward with bothersome equipment at some point, perhaps currently. But being in my late 40 now, I want my tools to be an "extension" and not an "attachment," of my body and mind.
Thank you Richard Butler.
Just going to say about the same thing. The photos are generally very good and interesting compositions. I hope I'm not infringing Richard's (or Dpreview's) copyright by downloading one of them and using it as my desktop background...
Cyril Reif: Don't underestimate the mirrorless cameras...I've been a Nikon SLR/DSLR user since 1968 (I still have my original Nikon F from 1972), but I have almost exclusively been using my GF1 since I got it in 4/2010.
Canon and Nikon can wait and let the other manufacturers establish the global demand and then jump in because they still "own" the brands that everyone knows and wants to buy. If I look at me experience, I can see a scenario that every serious DSLR photographer will also be carrying a mirrorless camera, one for every Canon and Nikon DSLR sold.
"Canon and Nikon can wait and let the other manufacturers establish the global demand and then jump in because they still "own" the brands that everyone knows and wants to buy."
Doing this would be an immense error. They should be showing off a mirrorless camera already. I'm buying a camera this fall (I'm a compact upgrader) and after pondering a lot on how to spend my 1k euros, I've made up my mind to go for a NEX-5N. Had Canon or Nikon made available a similar product, I would have been pulled towards them irresistibly; and like me there's right now thousands going for Sony, Panasonic, Olympus or Samsung. In 5 years time, they'll be changing cameras again but then there'll be a new camera brand in the household...