VaLeX: And hopefully, the new camera will have the 28-112 F 1.4-1.8 Lens that is patented here: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fegami.blog.so-net.ne.jp%2F2013-01-08
That would be nice. Obviously the trend in enthusiast compact segment is brighter lenses and EVF and it seems the XZ-3 (?) will have both.
According to rumour sites this new premium compact should be announced on October 29 and it should have usual 1/1.7 inch like XZ series, but it should have a built-in EVF in the middle ("mini OMD").
Rob Sims: Would be interesting to see a side by side comparison with the RX100 (I and II) as this looks to be the target competition of this camera.
@technic: what compromise? The Zeiss lens performs very well. And if you mean that the lens gets slower when zoomed out, well, you cannot cheat physics. Look how the same sensor combined with constant f2,8 lens looks like: http://j.mp/1i1ajtRKinda larger, right? ;-)
iudex: I am a bit surprised to read DPR finds the price of A7 high. I don´t remember this to be pointed out when the Oly E-M1 was introduced and man, this is one overpriced camera. 1400 USD (body only) for 4/3" sensor or 1700 USD for a fullframe? The A7 is a bargain.
as regards the sensor size: yes, it is not the only important thig to a camera. But it is the MOST EXPENSIVE part of a camera and FF sensors cost much more than say APSC sensors.When people get firs FF mirrorless they cry it´s not only about the sensor size, but ergonomics, fast lenses etc. But when people get a perfectly specced compact (see the RX10: constant f2,8 8x zoom, EVF, DSLR-like handling and ergonomics) they complain about small sensor. ;-)
I agree that the lenses are quite expensive. But many other lenses for APSC or M4/3 are priced similarily (Fujinons are no cheap stuff). You dont expect a FF lens to cost the same as M4/3 lens, do you?And another comparison: RX1 with (only one) fixed lens costs the same as A7 with zoom plus a prime.
Sean Nelson: The price is in line with what this camera offers over and above an RX100M2 - namely a built-in EVF, top LCD display panel, and a very long range, constant-aperture f/2.8 zoom. Trying to get that combination in any other camera with a sensor at least this large would be a lot more expensive.
@zorglub: do not mention the DSLRs. In that case almost every mirrorless is overpriced. See the Pentax K-30: APSC, 100% pentaprism VF, weather-sealed, twin dial controls, 1/6000s, 6 fps... and that for cca. 500 EUR. For this price you get only the entry-level CSCs (with no VF and worse specs).You can also ask this question: which fullframe mirrorless is cheaper? ;-)
I am a bit surprised to read DPR finds the price of A7 high. I don´t remember this to be pointed out when the Oly E-M1 was introduced and man, this is one overpriced camera. 1400 USD (body only) for 4/3" sensor or 1700 USD for a fullframe? The A7 is a bargain.
Rob Sims: From final page of preview: "$1300 is a vertiginously high price tag for a small sensor compact, no matter how capable."
Not debating the price, nor the reasoning that this is a lot of money - but since when has a 1 inch sensor, 813g camera (comparable in size to some APS-C dSLRs) been considered a small sensor compact? Was this accidentally copied and pasted from an article about a different camera?
IMO the size is similar to FZ200 and the Fuji X-S1 (with 2/3" sensor) seems to be even bigger and heavier.
Ecatly my thoughts. 1300 USD is extremely high price tag: but when you take RX100 II for 700 USD and try to put a price to every feature the RX10 adds, you may come to a similar price. OLED EVF may cost couple of hundreds and especially the lens with 8x zoom and fast constant aperture must be expensive. I doubt any other manufacturer introducing camera with this specs would ask for less money.Anyhow I would like the price to drop under 1000 USD in short time. ;-)
Edgar_in_Indy: Same old optics huh? I've owned both the DA 55-300mm and the DA version, and while they were both OK optically, that's about as much credit as I would give them.
I wish Tamron would stop their Pentax boycott and release the new 70-300mm VC in K-mount. That lens puts the 55-300mm to shame.
Exactly. I had the 55-300 too, but I sold it in order to get a faster telezoom with f2,8. Since Pentax makes none, I have to look at Tamron 70-200/2,8.On the other hand the DA 55-300 was really lightweight and portable, ideal for chasing wild animals (in good light of course). And weather sealing is very useful for this purpose too.
Glad to see Pentax is back on top. K-3 proves that Pentax is introducing great improvements every second generation (K-5 II was just a "facelift" of K-5 and it goes in the same way one category lower, see K-r - K-30 - K-50).Now pls make a thorough comparison test of K-3 - D7100 and 70D. I believe the K-3 will score high. ;-)
samhain: Nice camera, great ergonomics. Too bad it's not a FF. aps-c dslr's are so 2009.:)
You can still choose the "improvement" in the form of Nikon D610. ;-)
reginalddwight: The model in the first shot must love how the Lumia 1020 has warped her face to look like that of an alien from The X-Files.
Exactly! :-) http://www.everwonder.com/david/aliens/alien00.jpg
Jules Design: that's dust on your sensor = center leftBest take it for a cleaning : $40 +/-
I am not sure whether sensor can be cleaned in a fixed lens compact. Comact with dust inside means dumping this camera and buying new one. ;-)
At a first glance the speed of this lens really looks better/faster than normal DSLR telezooms. However important is also the course of the lens speed. My former Pentax DA 55-300mm had f4-5,8, what looks considerably worse. However at 100mm it still had f4 and at 200mm it had f4,5 (jumped to f5,6 at 210mm). So basically the same speed as this Fujinon, but for fraction of the price (cca. 280 EUR).
SETI: Returned my RX100 due to dust in optics. 2 weeks was enough to pump 3 dust particles and it was just summer street photo walking. Will not risk again
That´s almost inevitable with compacts. I hed issues with my S100s´ lens (got stuck open), so sent it to the service and sold right away.I know this could happen to interchangealbe lenses too, but those can be changed (unlike lens on a compact).
peevee1: The $800 kit with 11-27.5 can be easily replaced by $300 Oly TG-2 or Pentax WG-3 GPS (f/2 at the short end compensates for smaller sensor in low light). But the cameras also have image stabilization and significantly more compact (can be actually put into a pocket of your swimming trunks) and their zoom ranges are wider. With add-on lenses for TG-2 and its close-focusing capability, it is so much more capable than this Nikon it is not even funny.
TG-2 has a 28 mm2 sensor, Nikon 1 has 116 mm2, i.e. 4x larger. This alone makes up for the slower kit zoom (1,6 EV).Plus there is the prime with f2,8.And it has an advantage every ILC has: you can switch lenses and when not in water, you can put on a 32mm f1,2 lens and compete with APS-C.
Francis Carver: "The company has also announced the Fujinon XC 50-230mm F4.5-6.7 OIS."
Wow, a zoomie that can be opened up as bright as an F6.7 iris. Wow, the epitome of modern technology.
My Pentax DA 55-300 is also cheap (cheaper than this Fujinon) and lightweight, yet still faster (f4-5,8 and at 200mm still f4,5).
abortabort: No eye sensor is a bit of a downer on an otherwise very good camera. Also hope it isn't the 921K dot EVF from the Samsung NX10 and Olympus VF3 - They were just awful. 921K dots is fine, but it needs to have good solid colour reproduction and brightness that other 921K dot EVFs to date have lacked.
Yes, 1,4M EVF would be better (e.g. the one from V1), but still better than Panasonic LF1 with only 230k dots.
Great job, I applaud. After Pana LF1 being the pioneer Nikon comes with better and usable EVF (230k EVF of LF1 is actually insufficient). Now the next logical step would be putting a decent EVF to a camera with bigger sensor. The most obvious candidate for me is the Canon G1x: 1,5" sensor plus decent EVF (instead of stupid optical tunnel) would make a perfect combination. Or the Sony RX100; LF1 and P7800 showed that EVF doesn´t add much to the size of the camera.So come on Canon, Sony... pair a bigger-sensored compact with EVF and it will be a hit!