iudex: I have been waiting for the new standard zoom since it was mentioned in the K-mount lens roadmap for the first time (and that is some tima already). Despite the line indicationg the focal length was not clear (it could have meant anything from 15-85 to 17-75mm), I hoped for a 16-85mm, with HD coating, weather sealing and constant f4. Such a lens would have been a natural succesor to the aged DA 17-70mm/4 lens (and partially to the discontinued DA 16-45/4). Because I have a very fast zoom (constant f1,8) for lowlight shooting, I didn´t need a f2,8 zoom and would be happy with f4 (but constant speed), but because of short FL of my Sigma 18-35 I wanted both a wider and also longer lens. Such a lens would nicely complement my Sigma. When I fisrt saw the picture (over at PhotographyBlog), I was raptured when I saw 16-85mm, HD and WR designation. But a second later I noticed the f numbers and the dream was over.
cont.: Why the h.ll Ricohmust have spoiled this lens with variable aperture and the slow speed of typical cheap kit lens? I had some variable aperture zooms and told myself: never more, it´s really irritating when you have no control over aperture since it changes as you zoom in. 85mm would be a perfect FL for portraits, but man, portrait af f5,6? So after cca. 2 years of waiting for this lens I experience such a letdown. :-( Why, Ricoh?
I have been waiting for the new standard zoom since it was mentioned in the K-mount lens roadmap for the first time (and that is some tima already). Despite the line indicationg the focal length was not clear (it could have meant anything from 15-85 to 17-75mm), I hoped for a 16-85mm, with HD coating, weather sealing and constant f4. Such a lens would have been a natural succesor to the aged DA 17-70mm/4 lens (and partially to the discontinued DA 16-45/4). Because I have a very fast zoom (constant f1,8) for lowlight shooting, I didn´t need a f2,8 zoom and would be happy with f4 (but constant speed), but because of short FL of my Sigma 18-35 I wanted both a wider and also longer lens. Such a lens would nicely complement my Sigma. When I fisrt saw the picture (over at PhotographyBlog), I was raptured when I saw 16-85mm, HD and WR designation. But a second later I noticed the f numbers and the dream was over.
iudex: Well I have expected a more thorough coverage of Pentax/Ricoh, but at least there is something. But maybe DPR could have concentrated less on different colours and more on important stuff like new lenses or fullframe (being admited by Ricoh representative for the first time). Especially the lenses deserved more attention: the two big lenses are supposedly fullframe lenses.
I didn´t talk about the DA 16-85mm, this is clearly a usual APSC lens (not only it is clear from the designation DA, but also from the size, shape and focal length). I was talkinga bout the first two chunky lenses and some Ricoh manager admitted they are FF lenses. P.S. I am the last one that would bet on FF comming soon, after all the rumours in the past that didn´t fullfill. But I see a ray of light that the FF might eventually come just because after all these "maybe...", "we are concidering..." now there is an admission by Ricoh people that they are developing FF. And that´s a difference.
Well I have expected a more thorough coverage of Pentax/Ricoh, but at least there is something. But maybe DPR could have concentrated less on different colours and more on important stuff like new lenses or fullframe (being admited by Ricoh representative for the first time). Especially the lenses deserved more attention: the two big lenses are supposedly fullframe lenses.
Rod McD: These lenses have been discussed in the last couple of days in the Fuji Forum. There's a fair bit of interest in them.One unresolved question is why the 90mm f2 is as big as it is. SLR 90-100mm f2 lenses from the film era had filter diameters of around 52-55mm. The AF Nikon 85mm f1.8 covers FF and still only has a 62mm filter. The Fuji 90mm will also be AF, but only has to cover APSC, yet it appears to be a monster of a lens with a filter size of 72mm. Unless there's some hidden technical reason within, it appears to be a bit over the top. Where's the APSC advantage? Certainly too big for me.
And no 1:1 macro lens with a FL longer than the current 60mm?
@ipecata: re: "Smaller size is usually a compromise in quality" Majority of Pentax´s acclaimed Limited primes have 49mm filter thread (many of them are FF), so being small does not mean the lens is a compromise in quality.
Miki Nemeth: 72mm filter size on a lens (90mm/f2) designed/dedicated specifically for APS-C mirrorless cameras is really interesting. My full-frame FD 135mm/f2.8 has only 52mm filter. The full frame FD 135mm/f2 has 72mm filter size. The FD 100mm/f2 has 52mm filter size, too.
Ahoj Miki, hogy vagy? ;-)I wonder whether it helps you on mirrorless, it´s a Pentax DFA 100mm Macro. But all Pentax Limited primes (or majority of them) use 49mm filters, e.g. FA 77mm f1,8 (also a FF lens).
Just to add: Pentax FA 77mm f1,8 or DFA 100mm f2,8 (both fullframe lenses) need only 49mm filters.
Serious Sam: What Barney said about how Fuji provide information of their upcoming lens release is very true and praise by many photo site and Fuji user. It allows people to plan ahead. Although their timing is not always perfect but the products always materialize....unlike u know who.
That 16mm 1.4 is so tempting and good to see they decided to put a DOF scale on it (the picture on the road map don't have it). It would also mean that this lens has dead stop infinity and not focus on wire. GOOD CALL!!
Sure it´s nice to know what will be released. On the other hand it´s still a vapourware that can change or never come and you loose time waiting for it. This is exactly what happened to me: since I noticed a new standard zoom in Pentax lens roadmap I have been looking forward to buying it: the roadmap showed cca. 16-85mm zoom that looked like a successor to the aged 17-70/4. After long time the lens appears now at PK: it´s really a 16-85mm lens, HD coated, weather-sealed, but...f3,5-5,6! What a letdown! Having known this is going to be such slow I could have saved time and buy elsewhere. So even if those mystery lenses appear, there might be small differences, but difeerences that matter.
My fullframe 100mm/2,8 has only 49mm filter thread. Did I win? ;-)
007peter: Panasonic hits a home run this year and last year. The GH4 is a stunning achievement as a Film/Photo hybrid, then Panasonic release a FZ1000 super-zoom fitting a lens that almost seem impossible. Now Panasonic managed to squeeze in a 24-75/1.8 ~ 2.8 lens into a Micro43 sensor camera that is no bigger than a GX-7, what's more its stunningly cheap when compare to buying an M43 camera + Panasonic 12-35/2.8. Good Job Panasonic.
Here is the LX100 compared to GX7 with 12-35/2,8, which is so much bigger. Even the GX7 with collapsible (and slow) zoom is still bigger (and heavier).http://j.mp/1s8g4R6
GX7 might be thinner, but body-only. ;-) Not a good tool for taking pictures.
Horshack: Nice to see such a technically competent representative from a camera company. Great interview.
Exactly. And I also appreciate he was honest, not hiding anything ("the LCD is unfortunately not touch sensitive...") and not pretending (explanation of crop from 4/3"), so no usual PR bul...t.
radissimo: I know that Photokina is every two years, but introducing few lenses you can by IN A YEAR seems...I don't know... sad and lame at the same time ...
@Barney: I hope you will do the same with lenses Pentax introduced/announced at Photokina.
Joel Benford: "Allison was quite emitted with this orange E-M10."
Is "emitted" spellcheckereze for "smitten"?
How should we - poor non-native speakers deal with such words? ;-)
AdamT: One very expensive lens (admittedly a Killer) , that`s it then ..........
No Stylus-2 with improved optics stretched to 400mm or a 1" sensor Stylus X10, no XZ100 with 1" sensor, EM1 doesn`t get 4K afterall (just a silver paint job), no super small EPM3 (with EFC and EVF) , no EP7 with built in EVF ..
Exactly. After intorucing 3 models in OM-D line it is pointless to have 3 models in PEN line. On the other hand I don´t think there will be only 1 PEN model left, I guess there will remain two: Mini and Lite. Expensive E-P model has no sense next to OM-Ds.
duckling: Next time you visit an exhibition put a polarizer in your pocket. It might help with them reflections.
That´s what came to my mind instantly. I always take CPL to ZOOs or museums just because of reflections from glass.
zorgon: It's hard to believe that they can make a lens that small, with that zoom range and aperture. On paper at least it looks better than the Sony RX100III and Panasonic LX100 but I get the feeling that something has to give. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the image quality is like.
@splendic: there really may be people that do not use the EVF and shoot straight-handed, I have even see a woman shooting like this with a big DSLR. ;-) But anyone who got mad aboutthe impossibility to see the LCD in bright sunlight welcomes the EVF. Plus the Sony EVF is retractable, so if you don´t need it, it does not get in the way. So having an EVF is clearly an advantage, even if you don´t use it all the time, because when you need it, it is there. And because most EVF add almost nothing to the weight of a camera, every large sensor compact in 2014 costing more than 500 EUR definitely should have an EVF. I had many enthusiast compacts (including Canon), but I am not goint to buy one without an EVF.
jamesfrmphilly: how does leica stay in business producing such crap?
in a market based on merit how do they get away with charging two or three times the price for inferior technology and ergonomics? their new offerings don't even look good.
i don't get it.
T3: absolutely correct. While from the value for money perspective Leica cameras seem crazy or at leas unreasonable, there are people that do not buy things that are cheap or with best value for money, they just want the feeling they have something more. Car or watch is a good example: Kia may have great cars with powerful engines and great feature set, but it never gives the image, prestige feeling of owning something expensive (and maybe also the envy of the neighbour). Owning a Leica means showing you can afford it, you are well-off. That is why Leica does not even want to sell more cheaper cameras, keeping the exclusivity.
BarnET: The silver brown LX100 may look great with it's lens retracted. But it's a shame that the overly excited black barrel comes out.
Well at least it comes in black too.
On the flip side. I am going to checkout the ergonomics.It seems to have everything at your fingertips with great IQ potential.
Are you there (at Photokina)?
magneto shot: LCD'less is one of my wish list. My other was setting a possible shots of only 36,64,128. Limitations such as these gives u all the glory and film shooting experience, makes u a better photographer definitely without the fuss of film development.
Edit of my previous post: "...turn the back LCD off..."