Chris62: Another simple body.When the most advanced NX1?
HaR: The latest rumours talk only about Nikon D750 (which should be a faster D610 with articulating LCD).
I do not really believe in FF Samsung comming (just like I don´t believe in FF Pentax, Nikon D400 and other dreams of web-community).
Jogger: I dont think I've ever seen a Samsung mirrorless camera (or compact) in real life.. and i live in a really touristy area. Their phones are everywhere though.
P.S. Viking: How is your 16-50? I read a review that was not positive at all, having critisized extremely soft corners when wide open.
viking: "all the time" means "for 1 month"? ;-) Because AFAIK the lens has been available only for a short time and the NX30 is also relatively new. My friend has an NX20, however he is the only one I know owning a Samsung. Years ago I had Samsung EX1, a really decent enthusiast compact and when upgrading, I was choosing between NX11 and a DSLR (glad to choose a DSLR).
fmian: Is it just me or are the Metz flashes overpriced and overrated?The few recent models I have handled in camera stores seemed very flimsy with poor choice of materials/build. When re-positioning the head the top sections were kind of loose rather than rigid. Even the $50 YN flash I bought ages ago felt better than the 58 model Metz.
It´s just you. I have a Metz flash for Pentax (my second Metz) and it cost cca. 1/2 of comparable Pentax flash. Tha same applies to Nikon/Canon original flashes, which are way more expensive than Metz flashes.
db.: What a fantastic title, iudex: attention-grabbing, informative, precise and down to the point! :-((
Sorry, I put it in the description line instead of title. ;-)
iudex: I rarely praise Canon, since it´s gear, especially lenses are very expensive, but now I have to applaud. Decent image quality for an unrivalled price, nice job. I wondered why wideangle lenses always need to be that expensive (e.g. Pentax offers only one wideangle lens, which is great as regards the quality, but very expensive and there is no budget alternative, so i fI wanted a cheaper wideangle zoom, I would have to choose at Sigma) and hope other producers will follow this example.
OK, I do not watch M4/3 that closely. From my perspective as a Pentax user I have only one UWA zoom: DA 12-24/4, which is optically great, but expensive (800 Eur) and when I want something cheaper, there are only mediocre Sigmas and Tamrons (and these are still more expensive than this Canon 10-18). I can have two Pentax UW primes (14m and 15mm), but they are not especially wide.
michalc: Much better at 10mm than at 18mm. A little worse than a kit lens at 18mm. Still hesitant whether to keep it. Anyway nice move from canon to release a decent ultra-wide at this price point.
In my opinion people buy UWA lenses to use them mostly at wideangle setting, so I think Canon did it well when it concentrated on 10mm end more. And vice versa, if I buy a 70-200mm lens I want it to perform well especially at the long end.
Mike FL: Canon seems forget its EOS-M users in the US, and have not released any UW lens in US for its few EOS-M users.
Maybe it´s because nobody is interested in EOS-M. ;-) (and I am not wondering).
You Canon users can only be glad for such choice of UW lenses. I was wondering why there could be cheap standard zooms and cheap telezooms, but no cheap wideangle zooms. Now there is one so it is great there is a choice of decent cheap UWA and excellent more expensive UWA.What would CSC owners give for such a choice. ;-)
imsabbel: Hm. Seems to be a bit soft even in the center region, and has quite a bit of uncorrected chromatic abberation left, to the point of it really being distacting (i.e. on the left/right wall of buildings as in 8169).
I think I will keep my 10-22.
Well I do not expect a 299 USD lens to perform as well as Canon "L" lenses. Let´s compare similar lenses, e.g. Sigma 10-20 or Tamron 10-24 and I think the Canon does a better job.
I rarely praise Canon, since it´s gear, especially lenses are very expensive, but now I have to applaud. Decent image quality for an unrivalled price, nice job. I wondered why wideangle lenses always need to be that expensive (e.g. Pentax offers only one wideangle lens, which is great as regards the quality, but very expensive and there is no budget alternative, so i fI wanted a cheaper wideangle zoom, I would have to choose at Sigma) and hope other producers will follow this example.
Sour grapes?Citing from lenstip.com review: "at this price point the lens seems to be unrivalled.Pros: excellent image quality in the frame centre at all focal lengths, decent image quality on the edge of the frame, low longitudinal chromatic aberration, lack of problems with spherical aberration, proper distortion control, slight coma, good astigmatism control, fast, silent and accurate autofocus, good optics quality/price and possibilities/price ratio. "
jeremiah_rubix: Wow cool sometimes I forget that people on this site are actually photographers. I thought they were just negative, nasty critics of everything who love the sound of the shitty words they can string together. I'm sure the anti HDR guys will come out of the woodwork and the "post processing is rubbish I could do so much better" guys will be there, so will the 'meh' people and the pseudo elitist snobs. Well done to all whose photos were featured whether you're a very talented photographer or an average one who loves having a passion that immerses you in the world and keeps you passionate and active. For that reason this is one of the best posts DPR has done in a while. Hope to see more and hear less from those other useless wankers that are hiding behind their made up identities.
Exactly, sometimes it seems we don´t see the forrest because of the trees. Too much talk about what autofocus speed, EVF dot number and number of lenses available and not a single picture in gallery.Oh, nad not to forget: awesome pictures, every single one is worth printing and hanging on the wall.
straylightrun: Come on Sony, get your **** together!
Dorkington: it´s not about sensor, those of Fuji (X-trans) are APS-C top; I meant AF speed, what is Fuji´s weak point. Also I like the shape, grip and size of NEX bodies (sorry, a now) more.Squire: I aggree, one good standard zoom plus 2-3 fast primes and that´s it. However in this field Sony looses (no decent kit zoom, few fast primes). As I wrote: Sony a6000 plus Fuji lenses: 18-55/2,8-4 + 14mm/2,8 + 90mm/2, that would be a perfect combo.
ThomasSwitzerland: Pentax is pure no-nonsense camera. When Ricoh/Pentax goes full-frame, I will jump on.
Miwok: that was an ace! Game, set, match for Miwok. ;-)
Craig from Nevada: The market cycle for cameras is now far shorter than the product cycle--time to develop a new camera with signficant improvement over the previous model. The technology is now mature.
Customers want the new camera and not last year's model. There is no new camera ready to go.
This looks more like autormobles than anything else--change the grill on the hood each year and call it the 2015 model. In this case, the color is gunmetal and it is called the "Prestige Edition"
Well that´s how it works with car in US, but we in Europe are accustomed to 6-7 years lifetime of a car, with one facelift in the middle. ;-) But I see what you mean: some new cameras are just introduced so that the maker can say: hey, we have new model, but do not bring much novelties. Pentax does it in a way that only every second generation is brand new (K-3, K-30), the others being more of a facelift (K-5 II, K-50).
drummercam: ". . . and an 'exclusive' battery strap."
That should read "camera strap," I think.
This is a great camera, and a new color is okay (other makers do the same), but this package is no different from the silver version that also came with a grip and a unique strap. If this were bundled with their 20-40mm Limited lens and their FLU card, it would better deserve a Prestige moniker. Nonetheless, this camera at the opening price point is a very good photographic tool.
Good point, it would be much easier if Pentax bundled the camera with the Limited zoom. That would be a kit lens par excellence (I was thinking about buying one, but the high price along with limited FL put me off).It´s a pitty that camera makers sell mostly kits with crap zooms; it has it´s reason with entry-level cameras, but a high-end DSLR costing cca. 1000 USD body only deserves some better kit lens.
@ squire: well, a big dilema: fast Sony bodies vs. great Fujinon lenses. If only we could combine them ;-)For nothe best choice seems to be the a6000 with 16-70/4 as an allrounder or a set of small and cheap Sigma primes (19,30,60 mm). Or accepting the slower AF of Fuji and choosing whichever of their great lenses (I would go for the X-E2 with 18-55 plus 14mm and 56mm).
ogl: It means new camera will be soon and nothing else.
ogl: so you basically confirm what I wrote: that we cannot expect the K-3 successor earlier than in 2015 (given the 1,5 yrs lifetime it can be spring 2015), so your first comment (new camera will be soon) was wrong ;-)