jeremiah_rubix: Wow cool sometimes I forget that people on this site are actually photographers. I thought they were just negative, nasty critics of everything who love the sound of the shitty words they can string together. I'm sure the anti HDR guys will come out of the woodwork and the "post processing is rubbish I could do so much better" guys will be there, so will the 'meh' people and the pseudo elitist snobs. Well done to all whose photos were featured whether you're a very talented photographer or an average one who loves having a passion that immerses you in the world and keeps you passionate and active. For that reason this is one of the best posts DPR has done in a while. Hope to see more and hear less from those other useless wankers that are hiding behind their made up identities.
Exactly, sometimes it seems we don´t see the forrest because of the trees. Too much talk about what autofocus speed, EVF dot number and number of lenses available and not a single picture in gallery.Oh, nad not to forget: awesome pictures, every single one is worth printing and hanging on the wall.
straylightrun: Come on Sony, get your **** together!
Dorkington: it´s not about sensor, those of Fuji (X-trans) are APS-C top; I meant AF speed, what is Fuji´s weak point. Also I like the shape, grip and size of NEX bodies (sorry, a now) more.Squire: I aggree, one good standard zoom plus 2-3 fast primes and that´s it. However in this field Sony looses (no decent kit zoom, few fast primes). As I wrote: Sony a6000 plus Fuji lenses: 18-55/2,8-4 + 14mm/2,8 + 90mm/2, that would be a perfect combo.
ThomasSwitzerland: Pentax is pure no-nonsense camera. When Ricoh/Pentax goes full-frame, I will jump on.
Miwok: that was an ace! Game, set, match for Miwok. ;-)
Craig from Nevada: The market cycle for cameras is now far shorter than the product cycle--time to develop a new camera with signficant improvement over the previous model. The technology is now mature.
Customers want the new camera and not last year's model. There is no new camera ready to go.
This looks more like autormobles than anything else--change the grill on the hood each year and call it the 2015 model. In this case, the color is gunmetal and it is called the "Prestige Edition"
Well that´s how it works with car in US, but we in Europe are accustomed to 6-7 years lifetime of a car, with one facelift in the middle. ;-) But I see what you mean: some new cameras are just introduced so that the maker can say: hey, we have new model, but do not bring much novelties. Pentax does it in a way that only every second generation is brand new (K-3, K-30), the others being more of a facelift (K-5 II, K-50).
drummercam: ". . . and an 'exclusive' battery strap."
That should read "camera strap," I think.
This is a great camera, and a new color is okay (other makers do the same), but this package is no different from the silver version that also came with a grip and a unique strap. If this were bundled with their 20-40mm Limited lens and their FLU card, it would better deserve a Prestige moniker. Nonetheless, this camera at the opening price point is a very good photographic tool.
Good point, it would be much easier if Pentax bundled the camera with the Limited zoom. That would be a kit lens par excellence (I was thinking about buying one, but the high price along with limited FL put me off).It´s a pitty that camera makers sell mostly kits with crap zooms; it has it´s reason with entry-level cameras, but a high-end DSLR costing cca. 1000 USD body only deserves some better kit lens.
@ squire: well, a big dilema: fast Sony bodies vs. great Fujinon lenses. If only we could combine them ;-)For nothe best choice seems to be the a6000 with 16-70/4 as an allrounder or a set of small and cheap Sigma primes (19,30,60 mm). Or accepting the slower AF of Fuji and choosing whichever of their great lenses (I would go for the X-E2 with 18-55 plus 14mm and 56mm).
ogl: It means new camera will be soon and nothing else.
ogl: so you basically confirm what I wrote: that we cannot expect the K-3 successor earlier than in 2015 (given the 1,5 yrs lifetime it can be spring 2015), so your first comment (new camera will be soon) was wrong ;-)
New colour is fine, but I would appreciate more if Pentax introduced the lenses that have been on the roadmap for some time. That is: DA 16-85mm (cca), DA* 70-200 and DA 12-28mm. Especially the 16-85mm as a successor to the discontinued 16-45mm and the old 17-70mm would be nice.So Ricoh, concentrate more on lenses, only different coloured camera will not bring you new customers.
What makes you think that? The K-3 was introduced in November 2013, so it has only been available for 8 months. In Pentax new DSLRs are usually introduced after 2 years, when it is a completely new generation (K-5), or after 1 year, when it is jus an improved version (K-5 II). So I guess the successor will not be intorduced earlier than 2015.
The Name is Bond: For wedding photographers, that should have been a 16-55 F2 lens.
@ squire: you can see the lens on the link I posted above; as you see the 16-55 is big, with filter thread of 77mm it is bigger than some DSLR zooms. Anyhow for those who don´t mind the bulk it will be surely a great universal lens and for those who care about size there is great selection of primes.
steve mallen: Excellent. The medium telephoto prime finally arrives. Glad I stuck with Fuji - my XE-1 is still my main camera - although I suspect these new lenses will be just as expensive as the others; shame I can only really afford one lens per year (if that). The 90mm f/2 is going on my wish list though!
Exactly, when you go through the current Fuji primes offer, you have nice choice of wideangle and standard FL (14, 18, 23, 27, 35, 56, 60mm), but no telephoto prime (85 or 100mm), so the 90mm is a welcome adition.
Just as wolf said: f2 zoom would be huge, physical rules cannot be avoided (my Sigma 18-35/1,8 is only 2x zoom and has 800g). I am afraid even this f2,8 zoom will be huge, considering small mirrorless bodies like X-E2 the combo will be too "lens-heavy" and not easy to hold.Even on the biggest X mount camera - the X-T1 the lens is too big: http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj524/picrumors/picrumors001/63_zps2772f5c3.jpg Anyhow 16-55/2,8 was my dream lens, better than usual 17-50 lenses with f2,8 so kudos to Fuji for making such lens.
While I am not raptured by superzoom lenses, I can understand many people like them for being very versatile and comfortable. When I put this lens on an E-M10, I get a very versatile combo for travelling, that is light and very capable. Compared to Pana FZ1000 it is lighter (681 g vs. 831 g) and although the lens is slower than that of Pana, the much bigger sensor will outweigh that. So from this perspective I think such a lens has it´s sense and choosing between CSC with this lens and a premium ultrazoom (RX10, FZ1000) I would choose the former.
Ramius: Wish they made this for mirrorless full frame FE mount instead. Its annoying how breakthroughs like this lens is made for the camera technology of the past.
It´s logical Tamron doesn´t make lenses in Sony FE mount: there is no marketing potential. There is only one camera with this mount and it has been here for couplne of months only. How many a7´s have already been sold? And how many of these (few) owners would buy a Tamron superzoom? So it is clear is is absolutely uninteresting for Tamron.
abolit: Hey, Fuji! Enough of F3.5 - F5.6 crap! Start making some good stuff! F2.8 all the way thru or , at least , F4 . Sick of it!
Paul JM: stay calm, I am not a CSC owner and my DSLR can handle big lenses perfectly. ;-)
For all those believing this 18-135 is not that big: you are right. The lenses that are on the way are even bigger: the 16-55/2,8 will have 77mm filter thread (itself indicating the bulk of the lens) and the 50-140/2,8... well, have a look: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/635/061/022.jpgKinda funny imaging this beast on a X-E2/X-M1/X-A1.
@PaulJM: so when you think it is pointless to make huge f2,8 zooms for CSC and you believe Fuji thinks the same, why would Fuji announce two constant f2,8 zooms? They will be even bigger than this 18-135, especially the 50-140/2,8 will be huge: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/635/061/022.jpgSo apparently your thoughts are not Fuji´s thoughts. ;-)
While I can see making such a lens with constant f2,8 would make the lens unacceptably big and heavy, I think Fuji could have done it like with their standard zoom 18-55: just a bit faster, something between the kit lens speed f3,5-5,6 and fast constant f2,8. Lets say 18-105/2,8-4.
ck139: I have the Pentax 18-135 WR zoom on my K3. It is only a 62mm filter size but has the same f3.5 - f5.6 aperture range as this. I need to seem them side by side but I suspect the Pentax lens is smaller. I am thinking of going totally mirrorless for all my photography but if the Fuji lenses are bigger than the Pentax ones then I need to look at the Olympus EM1 or just stick with the weight and bulk of the K3. These are only tools when all is said and done! I just want to carry less weight around, being in my 60s and a bit lazy!
Why would a Pentaxian ever think of going mirrorless? Pentax bodies and most importantly lenses are always smaller and lighter thad those from N/C, not mentioning the Limited primes. Pentax 18-135mm is a good example, smaller and lighter than a CSC lens (405g vs. 490g of Fuji), so changing this combo for Fuji combo would save only couple of grams for the body, actually nothing that you would notice. Plus K-3 is one of the best APSC DLSRs on the market today, there is nothing (except video) CSCs can do better.
Ido S: If I were a Fuji X user I'd preorder this lens because it's probably the best travel zoom for ILCs ever.
I on the contrary would not buy this lens alone, since 900 USD for a slow zoom is madness. However if it was combined with XT1 and it would cost half the price in the combo, then I would think of it.