ManuelVilardeMacedo: I knew Canon had to do something after the Nikon lens recovery that was reported here at DPR two weeks ago (http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/03/18/Seawater-damaged-Nikon-lens-fixed-by-boiling-at-Taiwan-service-center). The Canon-Nikon war is relentless!
I don't see how boiling of the rusted parts from a lens got anything to deal with it.
Plastek: Yawn... yet another NEX? Which one is this within last 24 months? 3rd? 5th? 10th?
"What exactly do you find missing?" - From basics? f/2.8 or f/4 standard zoom, tele reaching 300mm (or more), cheap 50mm, cheap 35mm (A, EOS, or F-mount primes in that range are half the price or less comparing to NEX), any lens brighter than f/1.8, Holy Trinity of Zooms, Holy Trinity of Primes, Pancake prime anywhere between 30-50mm. This plus recently released pancake zoom and rebranded copy of tamron's walk-around lens would be a good start for something I'd be able to call a competitive mirrorless system. Not just bunch of mirrorless cameras sold under one brand with prayers some 3rd party companies will release new glass sooner or later or people will go down to adapters.
" Do you also mix an A38 with A99, for example? I hope not, because that will be pathetic."But I do mix NEX C3, F3, 3N, 5N, 5R, or whatever- no clue which one was released after which and what are differences, just know that 5s are suppose to be better than 3s.
"something you have been told (and you did not like the response)" - cause the answer was BS.Last 24 months: NEX C3, F3, 3N, 5N, 5R, 6, 7.C3 is the earliest from June 2011. Roughly 21 months ago (depending how you count)
Oh... so they matched the releases of A-mount glass, at least in number? Wow, I'm impressed.But yea, so is more glass to come for A, F, EOS, m4/3, NX, Nikon 1, and possibly: even Pentax Q. :) Market doesn't stand in place waiting for NEXes to catch up.
"there are no lenses for the NEX is getting a little old" - I don't think so. Especially when Sony keeps on flooding market with new bodies, as if anyone would be able to remember these. Seems like they learned exactly nothing from the era of A200-300-350 successors.
" I don't think that is a fair reason for criticising DPR for reviewing" - I never criticized dPreview for reviewing ANY camera. I'm criticizing Sony for it's ridiculous polices.
SRHEdD: BTW... a great balance of a small camera that takes great pics? Nikon P7700. Seriously. Save some money while Sony gets up to speed in AF and image processing.
Most of the people posting around dPreview belong to these 10%. So do people who belong to any other photographic community. But that's just a tiny portion of the market.
George Veltchev: Even the little G1 X from Canon showing better image quality in comparison and even better low light performance than this mirrorless Sony ... check the test results for yourself.
I've associated myself with a collective? And that's your argument for putting a words into my mouth? Wow.... I'm speechless. also: I never said that lens got nothing to deal with IQ. Please, stop twisting my words.
Wow.. so now my argument is "pathetic"?Keep the discussion civil, or if you can't - leave your comments elsewhere.
I never asked which model number it is. I asked which NEX it is being released during last 24 months. Also difference between NEXs and A-mount is that A-mount actually gets quite a bit of lenses. You see - NEXes were released in 2010. In the same period E-mount got ~8 lenses, and A-mount got ~11 lenses. Quite a bit of a difference, don't you think? And there were dozens of lenses available for A-mount already beforehand, so Sony obviously should have pushed for at least twice the amount.
And that's my point - Sony is playing with countless toy-bodies (NEX3F took roughly 1 quarter till it got a replacement!) instead of developing a system for NEX users.
tbcass: This model addresses only one (eye level TTL viewfinder) of the issues that has kept me from wanting a NEX (I'm and Alpha user). The interface and lack of dedicated buttons, slow AF and the requirement to use an expensive adapter for Alpha lenses make all NEX cameras a no go for me.
You "can" shoot sports with anything, even 25$ compact. But there's "can" and can.
Read carefully, I never claimed anything like that.
Nope, I actually shoot Sony.
And since you answered - I decided to check.It's 7th release since 24 months. Not 4th.
If Wikipedia is right - that's only one less than Sony released LENSES for this whole system since it's creation.
///M: note to Canon, make the lenses smaller!
well, if you keep the old metal junks than no wonder you have such a low opinion about them :)
DaNPrS: I don't see the market for this.
I thought that they look for the image quality first.
And offers OVF, MUCH better controls, more solid body and better (than a kit pancake) lens.Quite a fair trade for rather insignificant increase in size & weight.
Burbclaver: We will soon see an FF Nex.
Nothing to wait for. Expensive camera that looses it's major advantage - portability. And has no lenses to go with (actually: some speculate it might even not have an E-mount at all but rather an adapter of sorts to use E-mount glass in APS-C mode)
It's kinda like with GH3 - nice idea, but in the end - idiotic execution, cause if you can have a camera of that size- you'd end up better with the real thing: DSLR.
Or the NEX stays at home when you got a serious job to do instead of just shooting kids playing soccer (oh, wait, can't do that either - there's no decent tele lens for NEX, not to mention issues with AF-C) or birthday parties (assuming noone runs around the house).
YuriS: Something is bothering me… I barely see an advantage of Oly OM-D EM-5 over Sony NEX-6. Or no advantage at all. Both have their pros and cons. And score is almost the same: 78% vs. 80%. But “Silver award” for Sony means only second place behind “Gold award” for OM-D. I do not understand it… Frankly speaking, can somebody explain it???
"there's olympus colors" - That's a disadvantage, not an advantage."Minolta colors" or "Zeiss colors" might be an advantage, but Oly? Sorry, just: no.
Michael Barkowski: The rear LCD appears to be at least 20% shorter in height than the rear AMOLED on my Samsung NX200. That's a pretty big loss when you shoot in square format a lot, as I do. Big sacrifice for the rangefinder mystique.
Really, I think rear LCD size should be advertised in square millimeters, but again, I'm not a 16x9 shooter most of the time.
I suppose that's why they got an EVF - so you wouldn't shoot in Zombie position using rear LCD all the time.
Yep. For 90% of people who buy this NEX - a Point&Shoot would be by far better option.
Provia_fan: Standard ISO HotShoe is a welcome change/addition, well done Sony! There are so many brilliant flashguns we can use and I got loads :)
Nope, it's not. It's proprietary Sony hotshoe. Right now it's fully supported only by... 3 flashes if memory serves me well - plastic GN20, expensive GN60, and a Ring.
Besides, let's face it: a real "standard" hotshoe died around '80s. Since then everyone got a proprietary hotshoes.
flangad: This NEX 6 is a really great camera, and the 16-50Pz a good lense to go with it.
Anyway, i wish Sony could add a few features, not quoted in the review:- fully articulated screen for self-portrait- live-bulb mode as the Olympus OM-D EM5- "crop zoom"available for movie shooting (without interpolate, as Pnasonic do on micro4/3 cams)- more still picture aspect ratio : 4:3, 1:1- more videos modes: Only one version PAL+NTSC and not 2 localized versions, 720p, more mp4 resolutions, slow motion VGA 120 or 240 fps.- max ISO-auto parameter
And we would get a near perfect camera on a functional point of view.maybe some of those features could be some future "apps", or firmware updates
I'm impatient to see the future "mid-tele prime E-mount lens" (many people says it will be a 85mm f/1,8). I hope it will be very compact (why not collapsible as the 16-50pz?)
Also need more accessories for the accessory socket (microphone and standard microphone plug....)
yabokkie - I can't see how this NEX got AF anywhere near as bad as EOS-M.