PWRUSS: Just a note on fast lenses on the A7 / A7R, the Canon 85mm f1.2 works fine. So for most users there is nothing to be concerned about.
I thought it's to make photographs.But seems like I was wrong. Hipsters won once again.
Elaka Farmor: One of the cons "Limited battery life". I have not yet seen any camera with unlimited battery life ;-)
Life's harsh, isn't it? ;)
Dimit: Fact: THE A7 is the best MIRRORLESS camera AS OF THIS VERY MOMENT.Period.Minor improvements can be made in future as in every other manufacturer's model,isn't it self understood?As far as the jpeg's peformance,I can assure it's STUNNING!..and I'm not on a ''noise reduction on'' habbit.Just LEARN the camera and you're OK.The-otherwise respectable-reviewers may find some digitally oriented faults-which one can easily overcome-but ,as far as I can gather seeing their photo samples,they are not experienced ''photographers'' Every sinle camera has it's pros and cons but for what Sony has achieved,this tool is A REVOLUTION,NOT JUST EVOLUTION.Platinum award for those who know!!!P.S. Don't bother with all junk lenses which you can anyway use..FE Zeiss are excellent,bespoke made.No comparison with Canikon ones.
TrojMacReady - people voted with their wallets for cheap-fast. That's compacts, and they get most sales of all dedicated camera.We talk here about preference, not sales number (though A7 looses in both: sales and user preferences).
Rooru S: "But, while it has done a remarkable job creating these two cameras, we feel that some refinements are necessary in order to make them more competitive with the likes of the Canon EOS 6D and Nikon D610."
Why compare it to SLRs when it's a mirrorless we are talking about???
So what - let's run comparison with Nikon 1?Don't be silly.
iAPX: What is the interest of a FULL FRAME mirorless?
If this is size, maybe we should use them with a pancake (there are none), not with the big lenses that are offered. It's even worse when you look at the adapters for old Sony lenses.
Do they have any commoon sense at sony?!?
If image quality is your main concern: use a proper DSLR.
This camera got very little to offer in that regard (mostly because huge lack of any lens line up what so ever. What they have now are... what? 4 random lenses? What a joke).
Akpinxit: "FF" as for now meant "premium" . Not much so with a7 . With its' current handling issues (FPS , JPGs and compressed RAW , lens choice ) this is just another annual model ammature update , which by chance got included big sensor .
?! noone ever used? lol
Rob Sims: Not that I necessarily disagree with points made in this article, but the article does read very negatively - especially considering that this is the cheapest FF camera on the market - the same price as some m43 cameras but with much better image quality (the first important thing...).
I've never taken a JPG photo out of this camera, so perhaps that's why I'm enjoying this camera so much. I'd go as far as to say I'm enjoying this camera even more than when I first got my Nikon D700 five years ago (for almost twice the price), and as a result it's coming everywhere with me (...the other most important thing).
Leica makes rangefinders, not mirrorless. Rangefinders been here long before mirrorless term even appeared.
ragmanjin: Kicking the dead horse again here but this camera, too, was released later than the Pentax K-3. When is that review slotted for again?It would be nice if reviews happened in chronological order rather than by preference. At the least it would save you a lot of back-peddling and accusations of favouritism.Just my two cents.-Raj
@Resom - just to be clear: I'm opposed of scoring camera based on adapters regardless which one it is. Though - yes - you are right: all cameras should be treated the same way when possible.
Mister J: No bult-in flash? No A7 for me then, as clunky add-ons add time, weight, and a camera bag to my load. Looks reasonable otherwise, though since I'm mostly a jpg shooter, maybe not the best to go for. Think the Pana GM1 more me.
Ian - and if you have a build-in flash you always use it for lighting your photos, right? Haven't discovered commander mode yet?
Docmartin: Lossy RAW compression in a FF camera? This is a no go !!!
Sony advertise the A7/A7R as 14 bit colour depth, but apparently it even lags behind the 12 bit of smaller (e.g. MFT) sensor cameras?
Note: lossless compression is not the same as lossy compression.
A7 uses lossy compression.
No, it's not a revolution, no it's not the best mirrorless ever. People voted - it couldn't even get a first spot for best mirrorless last year. So don't get too excited, fanboy.
Limited comparing to other cameras in similar price point (which got far better performance).
My English is far from perfect yet I understood that statement just fine - no idea why you can't.
Because of it's price point and sensor size (and the fact that it's also an interchangeable lens camera).
GM1 is completely different type of camera :) Just compare a size - GM1 is actually a pocketable, small mirrorless camera that brings some value in that over a DSLR. This one? Is just little bit smaller (mostly in depth) than a DSLR, but still bulky enough for you to carry it exactly as if you'd carry a DSLR, so... if you are concerned about size - A7 is not an option.
new boyz: Silver only.. but at least it got reviewed, hahahaha.
Well, they scored it for what it is. Certainly silver award was generous, but it seems like many people here somehow think that this camera should get 99% score and triple gold award, lol.
Sean65: Seems to me that Sony, Olympus,Fuji et al all started to grab market share by producing small cute cameras but are now slowing growing into small SLR cameras.
Lets face facts here, if you're serious about photography and want serious features you also want a camera that is comfortable to hold. and that is exactly why SLR design is so good.
Maybe we're seeing the end of cute retro at last.
"all started to grab market share" - no, they did not. All of the mirrorless cameras are LOOSING market share. Just go, check statistics. http://petapixel.com/2013/12/30/report-claims-nikon-canon-sony-will-survive-smartphone-revolution/
@harold1968 - stop this mirrorless propaganda, please. A7 is LOUDER than any other modern DSLR on a market. And it's roughly as bulky as most of DSLRs (not as deep, but in all the other dimensions it's pretty much the same, so you need a bag for it anyway - neglecting any advantage it might possibly have).
aftab: It is an excellent camera for some, but useless for most.
You got very loose criteria for "best ever made".This camera got the lowest score and fewest lenses of any full frame on a market right now. So if that's one of the best ever name than how you call all of the other? Better than the best?
And I can't imagine how possibly could A7 cover needs of 90% of people. More like: 10%. 10% that can live with adapters.
How does it make it "cool" again?I can attach 10 EUR flash to the Pentax - it doesn't make it any cooler either.
Get over yourself. We don't live in '60s anymore.
There are no fast lenses for A7. You can get fast (f1/1.4 or brighter) only through adapters - which make it completely irrelevant to the review.
AlpCns2: Quite a few people here are bashing the review as "overly critical" and "unfair", and more of that kind of language. Personally I think DPR is doing a great job exposing the (doubtlessly many) strengths of this camera, as well as the weaknesses.
It seems many disagree about the JPEG engine. To be fair to DPR, I have heard the same from several other users. It might (or might not) be a bug in the firmware which can be easily solved. Nevertheless, the JPEG performance is below par at the moment.
It is excellent -actually completely professional- that DPR finds and points out such issues. It's not a (simplistic) matter of "Sony bashing", because that is utter and complete nonsense. When the D600 had some flaws, it was pointed out as well. Same with other brands.
Come on people. Many here claim to be professionals, or pretend to be. Let's act professional then, too.
Aye! Finally one honest review to expose issues with A7. Not just glorify it on every front simply because it's first FF mirrorless.