Marty4650: If Nikon knows they have a problem with the D750, then they would be crazy to keep selling them.
They are right to pull them off the shelves, inspect and repair them, before returning them to the retail market. Why keep selling cameras that could create unsatisfied and irate customers. Take them back and fix them!
The "sudden disappearance" sounds like a good business decision to me.
I guess (hope) that D600 fiasco was enough of a lesson for Nikon not to repeat the same silly mistakes again.
JEROME NOLAS: So D760 will be perfect...
No need to wait for D760. D750s manufactured in February or later on will be fine. It's like with Tamron 70-300 USD where low serial numbers are dodgy and everyone who know avoid them like fire ;)
mpgxsvcd: I fully understand that issues can arise and that Nikon is handling the situation appropriately. However, I can’t help noticing that other companies aren’t having quite the same issues. Something needs to be corrected at Nikon. The other companies don’t have these issues.
Sony didn't do anything with A7r shutter vibration. They pretend that there's no problem, even though it's quite well documented by these few people that bought it.
@HowaboutRAW - 6D stepped flare is nearly non-existent, and not an issue in any practical use cases. It's something vastly different than the issue D750 has which got a clear cut-off below the top edge of a frame. See: http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/12/24/nikon-d750-flare-problems-heres-why-and-what-to-do-about-them-its-not-lens
Toccata47: It's great they are pulling cameras and offering to fix issues for free. Seems like an issue that was identified very early and would likely come up in a qa analysis.
With now (ff) three releases in a row needing to be recalled, are shoppers hesitant to buy a new Nikon?
"are shoppers hesitant to buy a new Nikon?" - nope
"With now (ff) three releases in a row needing to be recalled" - it's the first recall in a row. Previous issues did not cause a recall.
sagar parmar: is there new body of d750 in coming in market without any defect , i want to buyit, but i can't because of flare issue .
Wait 2-3 months, new cameras should be flare-free. Seems like Nikon stopped production and is retooling manufacturing line to prevent the issue in a new cameras.
An alternative would be to buy D750 now and simply send it along with one lens to the service for fixing the issue. On the added advantage - they'll calibrate autofocus in your camera (it's part of the process).
greypixelz: They should have bought Pentax when they had the chance and make a name for themselves under the Pentax brand.Who buys a Samsung camera?! Answer: very few, very few indeed. So the point is mute for them, no matter which sells better as they are simply not in the game; they're just pitching from outside the course.
No, it wasn't. It was just from two stores, from what I remember.
Johnny Braggo: To be sure,DSLRS are big heavy antiquated mechanical museum pieces in some peoples eyes.I have big hands and I Love the big Canon 5D MKIII & 7D II,Im so glad Canon decided not to cramp up the controls by making the camera smaller.I don't want a camera that I'm constantly thumbing buttons i don't want to.Yes even though i love these cameras,i have to be honest the mechanicals do already seem antiquated compared to a mirrorless camera system.I realise there are big advantages to the Prism & Mirror,like metering & focusing sensors,Massive Battery life advantage,& the mirror taking the brunt of any dust ingress! It will be interesting to see out of Canon & Nikon who will actually be the first to launch a mirrorless DSLR.Ive used a few friends mirrorless cameras,and for me,the Focus is the BIG issue along with inconsistent metering-add on top of that cramped button layouts YUK!The best of the bunch that i Liked was the Fuji XT1.The next Canon 5D MK4 could be a 50MP Mirrorless who knows?
"The next Canon 5D MK4 could be a 50MP Mirrorless who knows?" - what for? Why would anyone give up OVF for EVF when shooting sports - which is one of the major use cases for 5D-series. What you are saying is nonsense.DSLRs with no mirror is just a pointless hybrid. If you have that flange distance - use it and give me a proper OVF.
If anything - Canon might create a camera with hybrid viewfinder - sort of like X-Pro1 where you can switch between OVF and EVF. That would sense. Additionally an OLED overlay on the optical viewfinder with things like live histogram or quick menus could be helpful too. But purely mirrorless EOS or F-mount camera is a total nonsense.
Shiranai: They want to rival $5000 DSLRs? Well thats a lot of confidence putting their small APS-C against fullframe. Especially considering their less than optimal lens-range which still lacks a 50mm 1.4 or a 300mm zoom.
And yes, there is something that DSLRs do better - its that their viewfinder has no lag at all. Because even if its 5 milliseconds it can be the moment you miss.And talking about small sized, the NX1 isn't really small sized, they intentionally made it this big to attract DSLR owners, so thats complete marketing-bull.
That 5ms is ONLY in a very best lighting conditions.
As soon as light goes down (eg. shooting indoors sports event) time goes from 5ms to 1/60s if not 1/30s. Which is more than enough to see EVF lagging.
slippedcurve623: Yea I'm a dslr fan and yea it's just a matter of time before mirrorless takes up say 90% of the sales BUT I dn't think mirrorless will ever overtake/catch up dslr's in one area and that is its AF I'm an sports photographer how have been using the canon 1d series since the original 1d and each generation had an large improvement for sports and I dn't think mirrorless will ever catchup to the future 1d line (1dx ii/1d mk 5) though I do understand most photographers dn't shoot sports for an career so they won't need that kind of heavy powerhouses but the problem with current mirrorless is still the af ability I, I shot with an a6000 which is suppose to be one of the best in af but only got an 20% sharp keeper rate when I was shooting an moving subject on the beach in bright daylight :-( so yea mirrorless gotta improve in the af for us sports photographers or even indoor wedding photographers before it can be treated seriously.
Yes, there is one, called physics.
DSLRs collect more light for larger, dedicated AF sensor. None of mirrorless cameras will ever have that comfort - they in best case they use tiny on-sensor PDAF sensor (which are getting smaller and smaller with raise of the camera resolution) struggling in low-light to the point where mirrorless need to fully switch into CDAF mode as OSPDAF is useless.
LEGACYMOMENTSPHOTOGRAPHY: I have DSLRS, a film SLR and a mirrorless. To be honest i use what i feel is the right tool, they all do the same job just in differnt ways! i feel people worry about DSLR vs Mirrorless and brand rivials who really cares just pick the camera for your needs and go out and SHOOT!!!! and ENJOY!!!!
Just as there's no reason DSLR should not be the right tool for everything, just as it was in past, is now, and will be in future.
sandy b: Said the VP of a company that sells mirrorless.
AndreSJ - read this: http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/how-internet-news-distorts.html
To quote, in case you're too blinded by mirrorless fanatism to get the key point out of it: "Thus, in the case of Samsung you have them parroting something they paid money for that tells them what they wanted to hear."
ultimitsu: "Mirrorless to outsell DSLRs 'in three years'"
I am sure someone somewhere said this exact same thing back in 2008.
Androole - they really don't, not if you want half-decent sensor, firmware that doesn't suck, use autofocus (respectively for all 3 cameras you listed).
lcf80 - a lot changed since 2008, but mirrorless still cannot compete with DSLRs unless your highest priority is small size and weight along with interchangeable lenses.
SteB: This is a very interesting lens and idea. It surprises me someone hasn't thought of the idea before. Macro photography is becoming ever more popular, and 1:1 is no longer enough for many macro photographers. In reality most macro photographers use manual focus, and most general macro photos are taken at a smallish aperture part way into the diffraction limited zone.
The one limitation of this lens I see is no automatic aperture stop down. For active insect handheld photography, in practice these means stopping down to the taking aperture. This is less of a problem with mirrorless cameras than DSLRs, especially mirrorless cams with focus peaking.
The trouble with such a lens on DSLRs, is the viewfinder will be dim, and handheld it will be harder to place the plane of focus at the taking aperture. But it should be very good, as long as it performs okay on mirrorless.
Macro lenses with more than 1:1 magnification existed for a while now. Minolta and Canon got two best-known examples.
As for your "trouble with DSLRs" - it's not 2001 anymore. Just use live view if that's really as much of a problem as you're trying to make it.
But nice to see some mirrorless propaganda under every single post on dPreview, even DSLR macro lens, cause spamming with BS like that isn't enough under the posts with cameras themselves.
Andrew Butterfield: It's extremely simple.
When mirrorless cameras catch up in the one area in which they slightly lag (focus speed and tracking for sports) there will no longer be any need for buyers of new systems to choose a DSLR. And that will presumably happen in the next two or three years. Or sooner, maybe.
People with heaps of old lenses will continue to use DSLRs for a while, but they'll start to be in the minority, then one day they'll be forced to switch like everyone else.
Canon and Nikon have given the others a head start but I'm sure they'll catch up soon (despite appearances) so they can cash in. Nothing like a worldwide format change to make a bit of money.
Except it requires adapters, making the whole point moot aside from some rare use cases when it makes little enough difference to be feasible.
MikeF4Black: Hopefully in ten years time I'll still be able to buy a digital camera that lets me look through the lens with a big bright optical viewfinder, and that has a 24x36 sized sensor.
"Also, nobody cares of the dynamic and contrast of the EVF when it matches at least the image that will be recorded." - but it does not, and most likely: will not in any foreseeable future. It cannot catch up even JPG sRGB output yet alone RAW.
"If you want to see the scene with your own eye, just raise your head" - You look at it in a wrong way. I don't want to disconnect myself with the scene while looking through the viewfinder. I don't want to readjust myself to looking at the small TV.
"NX1 bandwagon" - there is no such thing. I doubt NX1 sold in more than 5000 units and I would be delighted to see an actual number to cool down the heads of some Samsung fanboys thinking that their success in smartphones got any relevance to photography.
"What do they have to offer that Samsung can't offer next year?" - Sony in theory plans to offer multi-layer sensor. And you bite it from the other way around - you should ask yourself what Samsung can offer that Sony cannot, cause right now Sony is the big boy in mirrorless and Samsung is meaningless flea (in terms of market share).
"Sony just starts to copy Fuji's Kaizen philosophy" - no, they don't. Sony always had these rare moments of releasing meaningful firmware updates. But these always were just a moments.
aandeg: Lets face it talk is cheap but the mirrorless cameras just are not up to the job for many. When they are they will sell and no one will care if there is a mirror or not. Until folks stop caring if there is a mirror or not then and only then will mirrorless flourish.
Until that time a reminder.... The cell phone is coming for you.
HFLM - same here. I shot over 3 years with EVFs, now shoot almost only with OVF and live histogram is pretty much the only thing I'm missing.Lack of focus magnification isn't a problem for me - I got proper matte screen for manual focusing. But focus magnification in theory could be done in optical viewfinders just fine. Simply swap one viewfinder lens with another (movable lens or liquid lens) and you're done. Same with live histogram - add it in a corner of a frame or as an overlay similar to the AF points display.
There's plenty of options to improve optical viewfinders. In either case though - pleasure of using them instead of EVFs is a reward on it's own.
Charlie boots: It is probably obvious that mirrorless will eventually replace the traditional SLR with flipping mirror and prism as will electronic shutters replace traditional fp shutters. The SLR has been a workhorse for the past 50 years and is an amazing mechanical gadget. It also replaced existing well established technology. The fact that the mirror and shutter mechanism reliably lasts for 200k or more activations and that it can function at 11fps is astonishing. A mdern DSLR is mostly electronic and solid state anyway and as technology progresses it will invariably replace the clunky mechanical pieces. With the speed of development and innovation in the digital world we probably cannot imagine what will be possible in 3 to 4 years. Look at the iphone 6 and its competitors to see what has been achieved in just a few years.
I doubt we'll ever see DSLRs die as such. Film rangefinders never died, probably the same will happen to DSLRs.
In either case though - if demise of DSLRs will happen at some point in future - it will not be due to mirrorless cameras. Certainly not mirrorless in a form we know now.
Good luck setting white balance on EVF. These screens are not calibrated. I seen people making better guesses about light temperature with their eyes than I was able to do with the EVF. Then there's a problem with contrast and dynamic range... overall EVFs struggle with the same problems that TVs do. And perhaps one day EVFs will achieve the same quality as current high-end TVs, but even that will not be enough to accurately display a photograph as it'll be taken, yet alone: show what you'd be able to see through OVF.
AF performance got nothing to deal with whatever people prefer OVF or EVF.
True. Ecosystem is one of major reasons why people choose DSLRs. None of the existing mirrorless cameras offers anything like even the smallest - Pentax - DSLR system currently on a market.