marike6: The Df seems to be back-focusing.
In RAW, the easiest way to see it is by looking at the text in the center "As with you, also with us". With the other 16 mp APS-C cameras like the X-Pro1, X-M1, K-500, the Canon 700D, and m43 cameras like the GM1 and GX7, even the Nikon 1 J3, that same text is rendered in sharp focus.
Only the text from the mis-focused EM-1 RAW files is softer (note: switch EM-1 from ISO 100 to ISO 800, to see the text properly focused with the EM-1).
I know that DPR works hard on these Df studio samples, but something is up with the focus accuracy.
Test scenes are focused manually.And it's not the first time when dPreview can't focus all cameras in the same point (for another random example: see tests shots from Sony A77 review).
carrigman: "For anyone simply looking for the best image quality from a compact, the RX100 II is the answer." You can stop reading after that. IQ is what it's all about and the RX100 (versions 1 and 11) delivers that in spades. I have the original RX100 and I am constantly amazed at the quality it delivers.
norogNL - the real question is other way around: Why would anyone get GM1 and not rx100 from Sony?
ps. smaller with zoom lens that starts at f/1.8? I didn't think so.
bcc1955: My favorite is left out, Ricoh GR, why??
Only more portable, with better sensor, and better UI? Oh, and RAW files which can be processed by normal software, not that "thing" Sigma gives to you as a substitute of real digital darkroom.
christiangrunercom: Why is the Ricoh GR left out ? It would have nuked all the others...
ET2 - RX100 got f/1.8 at only one focal length and much smaller sensor offering worse IQ, worse high ISO performance, worse dynamic range, etc. etc.GR nukes it easily (only real downside of this camera is it's focal length - I would much rather have something with 35 or 50mm equivalent at this price point).
Jogger: Not sure i would agree with the EM1.. for $300 more you can get a Sony A7 with same build quality and 4x the sensor. Lenses that you adapt to it retain their original focal length rather than suffer the 2x crop penalty. Good lenses for the m43 are expensive and have slow apertures compared to FF. And EM1 video quality is atrocious and lacks common formats (where is 1080p60, AVCHD), something not factored into in the analysis.
R Butler - It's pretty odd round up if it nominates camera in a price of (barely used) Full Frame as a winner.
Either you take cameras priced for enthusiasts or not. If you do - get rid of ridiculous OMD in there. If you don't - Include A7, 6D and D610.
Some over thought "class" is meaningless - what client pays for a camera is what really matters. And in case of EM1 it's a price for fully pro camera with a P&S-sized sensor.
sunkenbranch: It was pleasing to see the conclusion. I have the D7100 and am getting the Olympus next week! Wishiing good food and good images to everyone. It all started in a Nikon forum discussing the Df camera. Someone said you ought to check out the Olympus. May I offer the following linkshttp://blog.mingthein.com/2013/09/10/olympus-om-d-e-m1-review-1/http://blog.mingthein.com/2013/09/11/the-2013-olympus-om-d-e-m1-review-2/http://robinwong.blogspot.com.br/2013/09/olympus-om-d-e-m1-review-introduction.html
Yea, for their sensor and lens testing.
PhotoPoet: 1st the obvious. This site is "free" we love it. We use it. Perhaps we click on a link and buy something from time to time. The work that goes into this site is much appreciated. As for the Enthusiasts ILC, "who knows" one persons perfect Nikon is another Samsung... peace
It's "free" in a huge quotes. It collects your user data as well as serves adverts on pretty much every page. That's how you pay for it.
onlooker: dual12 wrote:"A gold award means nothing."
Barney Britton responded:"@ dual12 - really?"
I also agree with dual12. Barney, DPR produces great reviews with a lot of data points. One needs to read them carefully and make up his mind based on how the camera fits his needs. I remember long time ago Olympus 3040Z did not get "Highly Recommended" (equivalent of "Gold" back in those days). Yet, based on the info in the review I bought it, and it was the best compact I ever had, period - for me.
Shawn Barnett - So: Reviewer that shoots Canon will never give gold award to Nikon, and reviewer that shoots Nikon will never give gold to Canon?
Well, that explains a lot in some of the gold awards you gave / didn't give.
andy amos: Interesting to see 2 mirrorless models made it to the the round-up. A few years ago they would have been scoffed at. Looks like EVF is becoming viable at last. I wonder how the Sony Alpha range will do in the full frame catagory?
So true BlueBomber. dPreview is most biased towards mirrorless of all the websites I visit. To give mirrorless proportional coverage for what it is - they'd have to cut the number of mirrorless articles by good 80%.
123Mike: The Sony A57 beats the lot of these.
Impulses - four. A-full frame, A-APS-C, E-full frame and E-APS-C. Makes 4 different systems to develop (though ""only"" 2 mounts).
Obviously E-mount is for people who don't care about lens selection of having a system to shoot with (good luck with getting proper flash setup with that, lol).
pdelux: Olympus on a roll. Love it or hate it, one must applaud the sheer audacity to put a sensor half the size of 35mm in a Pro body and compete against cameras twice the weight/size (some of them). They delivered the IQ, the body and the finally the promise of m4/3 is fulfilled. It took 5 years but they got there. Bravo.
"put a sensor half the size of 35mm in a Pro body and compete against cameras twice the weight/size" - and twice the capabilities for the same price.It's ridiculous how poor value that body has.
ThePhilips: Judging by the mix of cameras on the list, the "enthusiast camera" moniker meaning less and less.
Inclusion of the Pentax on the list is rather unexpected. Sad to see system sliding into obsolescence. But IMO in 2013 and forward, with such limited lens catalog, having just lost 3rd party lens manuf support, and no video, the Pentax simply has no place on the list among the mainstream cameras today. Sad, but true.
NEX-7 and Fuji X-Pro1 are also oddballs on the list. IMO they are not proper "enthusiast cameras", but "enthusiast's second cameras". And that deserves its own category. Many own two systems this days, and choice of second system is important too. I think "Best enthusiast cam to go with your Canon/Nikon DSLR" might be two interesting topics (one for Canon, one for Nikon).
haziz - moreover: Pentax got largest selection of pancake lenses. Puts mirrorless systems in shame. Including the joke-winner OMD EM1.
peevee1: DPR wrote: "It's extremely hard to choose between the Nikon and the Pentax, but the sophistication of the Nikon's AF system just puts it ahead,"
Does it mean you have already tested K-3's AF?
No. It's just "sophistication" - real-world results don't matter according to them. Just a level of sophistication.
5 mirrorless 3 DSLRs? No Sony SLTs?
Best enthusiast-level camera - Olympus OM-D E-M1 - a 2x crop factor mirrorless in price of full frame DSLR? Why you haven't included Canon 6D and Nikon D600 than?
You've got to be kidding me. It's a joke, not a comparison.
neo_nights: People are saying that saving RAW files is useless due the small sensors. But..... what keeps phone makers to produce a smartphone with a bigger sensor, like Nokia did?
I agree that with an 1/3" sensor there's no much to headroom to edit anyway, but for future phones, with bigger sensors, it could be great.
"But..... what keeps phone makers to produce a smartphone with a bigger sensor, like Nokia did?" - I would like to know that too.Sadly - none of the Android phones got larger sensor, so it's meaningless if they got RAW support or not. As someone said: lipstick on a pig.
Goodmeme: I hope they provide option for Adobe raw which is already open-source AFAIK. Why reinvent the wheel, when a universal wheel has already been designed?
Cause DNG is rather poor format in general (especially when it comes to compression).
HawaiiVolcanoes: Leica sells cameras to collectors....NOT Photographers.
thank you very much
"You don't need a Leica to take such photographs" - for some of these you don't even need a camera. Just a painter with skill in hyper-realism. Or a 3D artist.
It proves exactly nothing.
Jun2: Everything will be online. Newspaper will soon be history. Doesn't really matter if it has pictures or not.
Newspapers are guaranteed to stay around as long as generation born in '60s-'70s is still alive. Most likely even longer than that. Sure, sales will drop, but there's many reasons to blame for that. Still though they'll keep on being printed.
brebis: Libération is a very bad newspaper, only interested in Paris, politically correct subjects, stating the obvious, etc.
Doesn't matter much if they are or not. They made a right move in pointing out obvious issues with changes we go through right now on a market.
WeddingEtCetera Com: The French photographers have a great responsibility in the closure of many news agencies in France. They have a State employee mentality. They want at the same time salary like an ordinary employee and copyrights. Sorry but you have to choose. Either you are independent with copyright, either one is employee and photos belong to the company. I saw French wedding photographers ask copyright on wedding photography for private clients. Amazing...
It really depends on a mentality an local laws. In some countries selling copyrights for a photograph is something very different (and priced differently) than selling right to publish one photograph one one occasion. Whole issue of copyrights is much more complicated than you try to make it up.
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