Richard Franiec: Nice design, attention to detail and use of quality materials in the manufacturing process of the camera body are all great attention grabbers, however the truth is that they don't always create a better tool to do the job, especially when electronics are involved.What we see with Leica is that they are desperately trying to market pride of craftsmanship and mysticism of the brand name at exuberant prices.The whole manufacturing process in today's broadly available technology (explained in pictures of the article) is nothing that cannot be achieved in China, Vietnam or Romania. Most likely with less manual labor involved if deburring process is carried out by the same machine tool which does the "carving" of solid block of aluminum, not by hand of highly paid worker.Obviously, limited production runs cost more per unit but justifying the final price by extraordinary skills and experience needed to do the job is just a plain hyperbole in my mind.
I agree, but do you think anybody who is actually in the market for one of these cares? Same arguements for Rolex watches etc etc...
I suspect Leica is going in the direction of Vertu (massively overpriced status symbols..) which seems such a shame given their respected past.
They need to innovate, not decorate..
Paulfolio: If you can be disciplined to always put the lens cap on that magnet, why not just always put the cap in your left pants pocket?
maybe the right hand is holding the camera..?
Heie2: I'm a Pentax fan, and while I prefer the WG series, the first to allow RAW shooting will get my money.
RAW. IN. AN. EVERYTHING-PROOF. P&S.
Except the AW-1 doesn't seem 100% waterproof... (maybe 99.995.. :-)
Personally, I would love to have the AW-1, but in a P+S package, and none of this interchangeable lens rubbish which we just know is not going to work for the life of the camera..
eddie_cam: Why no 24-60 or 24-75 mm eq. pancake lens? I don't get it.
The new 70-300 zoom might get my interest when:- no shutter shock (compared to Olympus)- outstanding VR- better AF-C (which should be no big deal in the 1 system)- price at around 700 bucks (after a few months)
And, yeah, milking the customers is all the rage right now. I wonder how much money you must set back for the V3+EVF+grip+70-300 - 2000+ bucks? That would be ridiculous. For that amount of money I could dabble in several systems (DSLR included).
and how many people really need that in this camera's market sector?
digilux: Rob Hornstra can't go to Russia anymore, he was denied a visum without any given reason......
Shame, I thought the photos were quite interesting, just normal people doing normal holiday things and could have been taken in any number of european countries actually..
Personally, I would really have loved to ask them about the D600 oil issue..
(and how they handled it..)
abortabort: I think DPR should have included some actual coverage of the LA-EA4 Alpha adapter. Adaption of lenses in covered more properly in other reviews by DPR and despite the SLT adapters being available for a couple of years are seem mostly to have been ignored.
This adapter isn't 'just' for adapting lens mounts, it actually adds significant functionality to the whole camera, by adding a second AF system (with motor drive supporting the mount fully going back 30 years), it actually converts this mirrorless camera into a fully fledged DSLR (DSLT). That is not only quite an achievement, it means that cameras like the A7 and A7R become convertibles - One camera to cover many use cases. No longer having to choose between buying a mirrorless or a DSLR.
Is it perfect? Is there confusion about what it is for? This is why some in depth coverage by DPR on what it IS for as well as how well / badly it works is more important than the assumption 'it's just another clunky adapter'.
I don't agree. I agree it's a very useful looking accessoory and looks worthy of an additional review, but unless it comes in the box I don't think it should be part of the camera review itself.
greypixelz: This is hungary, the land of Mr. Tamas:
nazi mass murderers:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DauT5r34Gl4
and what does this have to to do with anything..?
So sad that a collection of pretty interesting images invoke such posts..
I think a lot of people here should simply be ashamed of their reaction (and posts..).
fz750: Am I the only one wondering why the Pentax K3 got twice as many votes as any other camera in that group?
It doesn´t seem logical to me, given the reviews (of all the cameras), price (50% more than the D7100 here) and number of sales and lens support etc etc
I own none of these cameras voted upon, just an interested observer..
D7100 Body: 830.- SFr K3 Body: 1495.- Sfr
D7100 with 18-140mm: 1198.- SfrK3 with 18-135mm: 1799.- Sfr
Strangely, there is a K3 kit listed with 18-55mm costing 1369.- Sfr but there's no direct Nikon D7100 kit equivalent, perhaps the cheapest kit with the 18-105mm lens which is 1111.- Sfr
(1000.- Sfr = $1110)
So, as you can see, the k3 is
Body: 80% moreKit1: 50% more kit2 (cheapest K3): 25% more
(prices source: toppreise.ch comparison site)
I suspect that Pentax in Switzerland are simply overpriced (often happens) and the camera hasn't been available for long and prices haven't dropped yet, maybe it takes longer with cameras that don't have the sales volume that Nikon have. I've not seen it in mainstream shops yet that stock other Pentax cameras (FNAC, for example).
qwertyasdf: Personally the best lens this year is Canon's 11-22mm STMIt's small, it's light, it's sharp, it's got image stabilization, it's got low distortion...and it's so CHEAP!!!
I don't shoot people or go birding with it, but for any other occasions, like parties, hiking, travelling, street photography, it's a must have.
It would be if it fitted any cameras that many of us own and only one in Canon´s range..
Am I the only one wondering why the Pentax K3 got twice as many votes as any other camera in that group?
FinDERP: These articles are laid out so badly!
Hire a web designer, seriously
Actually Barney, the web page above looks pretty awful, half a mile long full of repetitive elements related to first, Gearshop and then Amazon´s offers.., as well as the "useful" information being split by adverts which is less than optimal
The fundamantal structure is sort of ok, but somewhat confusing (cover flow style element with the repeated results in the grid below) and maybe Nielsen´s heuristics should be revisted.
Somehow I think the website has become so overloaded with adverts and the like (when looking above..) that the information we came for is becoming lost.
b craw: Nice job, Jeff.
[as there was not a comment section on the previous article - best interchangeable lens cameras under $1000, I just wanted to mention that the Samsung NX300 is listed with a kit 20-50mm lens. The picture actually shows the much less compact 18-55mm. The price listed also reflects the kit with the 18-55 (recently reduced about $200); the 20-50mm is about $50 cheaper. Just a minor thing, but thought I'd give you guys the heads up.]
All the NX300s that are for sale here are listed with the 18-55mm.
The price is starting at $750, which, whilst the camera actually looks really beautifully designed etc, is really asking quite a lot in a VERY crowded price and market segment..
thanks for the short review.
I was so interested in this, not so much to go snorkelling or underwater actually, but just to be rain and sand/dirt proof and generally totally worry free.
Unfortunately, I wasn't aware about the lack of IS which is a deal breaker for me.
Nikon, are you listening? $200 cheaper and IS.. :-)
(unknown member): I've always wondered: If any of the OEM manufacturers wanted to play hardball with the Tamrons and Sigmas, etc., why wouldn't they encode their cameras to just make it next to impossible to use anything except their own lenses on their cameras? I would think it would not be hard for Canon or Nikon to include code that would make life very difficult for aftermarket lenses (or flashes for that matter).
Doesn't seem to bother Apple, lightning connector with a chip inside etc..
And I was asking EASA in Europe:
KW Phua: The problem for most Japanese are not admit mistake and move on from there. I work in Japanese Companies before. They always try to cover up. Canon may have improved. Hope they really change.
For what it's worth, it was an often reported national/cultural characteristic in the international press/news during reporting on the Fukushima disaster (and still, recently with the cover-up of people's illnesses and their possible cause).
I suppose we could also add the Olympus scandal (by a tobashi scheme) where bad investments were covered up..
springsnow: "Now, the FAA is lifting its rules on in-flight electronics. Instead of having to turn off your phones, cameras and laptops entirely, you just have to make sure they are in airplane mode and safely tucked away during takeoff and landing."
Wait, do people really truly turn off (literally turning it off, not just in stand-by/sleep) their stuff before? Isn't that the point of airplane mode on phones in the first place?
That's the current rule, turn it off completely!
Airplane mode only stops radio transmission not the processor running etc. The (current) point of airplane mode is to use it during the flight and not during takeoff/landing.
I imagine it'll take european authorities at least 10 years to catch up with this... :-(
williams359: Please canon or a third party maker is there any way of making a grip with a extra memory card slot
Surely it would depend on what interfaces were available to the grip? Everything is possible, whether it's desirable ir advisable is another question..
How about a grip connected by radio (Bluetooth, wifi, whatever) that mirrors the built-in card? Can't be that difficult...
steelhead3: You didn't think this was important in the original review, please don't let Amazon dictate another favorable review.
The D600 got a gold, and obviously this was based on it's performance during the test, but since then this issue with the oil from the shutter has mushroomed and Nikon have managed this very badly, to say the least, and lost a lot of sales (and no doubt customers) along the way.
Surely there should (or could) have been some update to degrade the rating or add a serious caveat? I think this is what is missing and what people are somewhat dissatisfied with..
Alternatively, is there not a place for a much longer term test, in the way that car magazines do, to reflect on day-to-day usage and reliability in such "suspect" cameras, what repairs have been needed over a 12 month period etc? Surely somebody would be really pleased to be given such a camera for 6-12 months merely at the price of writing periodic reports and doing some tests? I volunteer for the D610! :-)