This is what the V1 should have been. From initial impressions here, I really quite like this little brick.
Just had a look at the photo of the M's top panel. The extra thickness is part of the main body, and not due to the rear panel protrusions, a bit disappointing...
Just been over the spec sheet for the M and its a full 5mm thicker than the M9/M-E! That's a big increase. I wonder why that is? They're all full-frame digital rangefinders, why the need for such an ungainly fattening? It's also quite a bit heavier. Of far less importance the video spec is really circa 2008 - motion JPEG recording and no higher than 25 fps even at 720p. But you don't purchase an M-series for video, so not a deal breaker. Apart from those minor issues this is really the M-series people in the know have been waiting for!
Just thought - the increase in thickness might be due to the new thumb grip and protrusion of the larger back panel LCD.
Very nice, really atmospheric.
Ahmet Aydogan: Concepts like OMG Autographer, Lytro and femtophotography are definitely welcome in the world of photography. Pushing the technological and conceptual boundaries, getting image makers to explore their art/craft in new ways can only enhance the process. Will all, or any, of these technologies succeed? Only time will tell, but in the meantime they provide even more tools for all us so that we can continue to explore the world around us. There's nothing wrong with that.
JackM: "If we had continued the M9 people would have thought 'OK, that's the old camera, I don't want the old one, I want the new one because the new one is the best'"
Do you really think we're that dumb? I would much rather have a classic M9 for 4800 Euros than this M-E which is deliberately styled to look second class.
FM both the Leica M and M-E have magnesium alloy bodies with brass top and bottom plates I believe. They're equally well constructed.
Tape5: This year is double Xmas for Nikon. They are standing way above the competition after the Photokina dust settles. I will remember 2012 with D800 and RX1.
As a long suffering Canon user too, I unfortunately have to agree with you both.
GiovanniB: This interview reflects a very good approach towards their customers by Nikon, including respecting the wishes of owners of legacy lenses - talk of long-term commitment in opposite to ever-faster "innovation" cycles and planned obsolescence. Congratulations - in fact if I'd not be invested in a Canon full frame system already, I'd seriously consider returning to Nikon completely today (having been a Nikon user in the film era for some time, but I wasn't completely happy with their AF bodies and some of the lenses back then).
I completely agree with you there dorff. How ever much I'm fond of my DSLR system, many a time I wish I had a more compact, much lighter camera system with similar image quality. I know there's the 4thirds and Sony's NEX mirrorless systems available, but I'd prefer something similar from a professional company like Nikon.
keepreal: Quite interesting. Without a doubt, if I did not already have my D300 I would be very interested in the D600 especially as all I have are three FX lenses (12-300mm is quite enough) from when I used to use film, even though nearly £2000 is a lot of money. Now "entry" level DSLRs go for £700+. How absurd. They are not entry level at all. That's just marketing.
I cannot agree with Dirk Jasper on one thing. 12mm on DX is quite wide enough for landscape photographs in which I specialise. Before, when I used my Sigma 12-24mm f4.5-5.6 EX DG at its widest with my F80 and film, I had to be careful not get my feet or own shadow in the frame. If you are interested in freakery going that wide on DX may be useful but the landscapes I like to take are real and believable.
(BTW the Mk I version of that Sigma 12-24 is brilliant, at least mine is. Some say they vary. I now use it 95% of the time as the results in landscape shots with very near objects in them brings the perspective to life .)
keepreal, the best reply to a sarcastic comment I've read in a long time! I tried to give you two likes just for that, but the system wouldn't let me.
Out-of-focus thumb, lens and camera...
Must have been using FX....
You might have a point, but even with APS-C I still have difficulty getting good DOF when shooting in macro.
Tom_A: Very good interview, except the interviewer could, in my opinion, have asked a few questions about the popularity of mirrorless cameras in the lower price range, and how does the N1 perform there. Etc.
That's a good point Tom.
An excellent interview! This guy and his company really know the enthusiast photographer. Good on you Nikon.
JacquesBalthazar: The S line is truly Leica at its best: innovative and obsessed with quality. I find this infintely more impressive than the nostalgia-tainted M. The S is clearly the best DSLR available out there, for very many applications. Not for all of course, but wherever ultimate quality is paramount, it is the top.
Based on output examination, the quality of the lenses and the formidable tonal gradation refinment of the pictures set it apart from 35mm DSLRs, D800(E) included.
The sheer functionality and useability set it apart from MF competitors. And, in that world, the price looks much less exotic.
Of course it is basically unaffordable for people who are not paid for top quality images, and it is not a system that normal human beings can carry all day on their shoulder (though body and one lens is not impossible).
I am delighted by the D800, and feel privileged to have been able to afford it, but am happy to have the Leica S as an aspiration for the day those Lotto numbers come out.
Right on Jacques!
rhlpetrus: Well, a compact x 1DX is likley 4+x crop, from D800E to the S is just 1.25x crop. He doesn't know anything about the D800.
Genuine German Zeiss lenses have poor quality control! I wasn't aware of that, I always thought they were the Leica of third party lens production. Is that why I've heard that Hasselblad's latest lenses are manufactured by Fuji and not Carl Zeiss?
Francis Carver: Why is everything Leica makes so butt-ugly?
Also, Leica's brain trust should have been following DP Review comments. They are now getting neck-deep into a legacy old school format (medium format) with their ungainly S model, when a lot of previously FF 135 format shooters are in fact moving down to APS-C, Micro 4/3rd, and 1-inch.
I guess with Leica, big and heavy and bulky somehow equates beautiful?
Heck, at least they did not come up with a brand new "Jumbo Imax" form factor and sensor camera this time around.
About Leica styling, I actually like the styling of the 'S' it has a pleasing minimalist quality about it. But what's that dial for on the new cameras left shoulder? I don't remember the S2 having such a dial...
Edmond Leung: This move....If we ignore the terms and conditions of the agreement made between these two parties... then, it isgood for Sony, but not really good for Hasselblad!Sony can strengthen its brand in digital camera by cooperating with Hasselblad. But what does Hasselblad gain from this cooperation? Technology? Financial support? or others?Professional is professional. I don't see there is any chance for ARRI to cooperate with Canon to develop a camcoder. I don't see there is any chance for Mark Levinson to cooperate with Sanyo to develop an amplifier.
Jogger you have a point there!
OMG that's an ugly camera! What were they thinking?
A Sony Nex-7 in drag? Hassy you must be kidding!
GabrielZ: Only costs 22 grand, I'll buy a dozen...ha ha. But seriously why go for this when you can get a D800/D800e with virtually the same resolution, add to it a Zeiss prime and you've got a system with the same image quality for a fraction of the price. Still...a nice camera none the less.
From what I understand, the larger the image sensor the larger the light capturing pixels, the lower the noise levels produced which is theoretically a good thing especially for low-light photography at high ISO's but at the lower ISO's most photography is done its less relevant and don't forget the Leica S uses a CCD sensor whose low-light abilities are inferior to that of CMOS sensors. As for DOF a full-frame 35mm equivalent sensor is more than adequate when using a fast prime lens in that department. As for large prints - how large do you need to have your prints? A 36MP Nikon D800e sensor is capable of supporting huge quality prints with the right lens connected to it. And finally the issue of high-speed flash - well you've got me there! The Nikon's focal-plane shutter is no match for the leaf shutters available in medium-format lenses. Don't get me wrong I really like the Leica S and if I was able to afford it I'd purchase one.