Another week another new Leica, they're really pumping them out lately ! Anyway the loss LV and video recording capabilities in such a camera is perfectly acceptable for a reduction in purchase price, and the more refined shutter is a desirable bonus. But I don't like the replacement of the brass top-plate with an aluminum version. I think that's a step to far for such a traditional (and tank-like) camera. M's should have brass top and bottom plates!
Many class-leading features and capabilities with this camera, the sensor is especially impressive! But there are too many important things in the 'cons' list that put me off a bit. The poor tested battery life, unergonomic body and controls and menu issues especially.
Battery life and an oversensitive viewfinder eye sensor are my main bug-bears with my current ILM camera, I wouldn't want to spend thousands more and and have a repeat of those issues...overall then despite leaps and bounds in capability with this generally excellent camera, I still don't think ILM's are quite there yet.
Very interesting tech with potential. The QuantumFilm is similar in principle if not application to QuantumDot layers increasingly used in very high quality displays, monitors and TVs. Some mega corporation is going to buy up this startup I'm sure!
I whole heartedly agree with one observation here in particular...battery life, it's still truly abysmal! At least with my X-E2 it is. While I like my Fujifilm, I have to carry around with me at least 3 batteries to get a decent days worth of shots out of it! That was definitely not the case with my former Canon DSLR, I could shoot for a few days in a row before having to recharge. It's the only thing...performance wise...that I miss from that camera. I also believe that high speed sports photography would of been a lot better with that camera too, but I was never into that, so I don't miss it.
Who's going to want this camera? Its spec seems to be from 2010 or something...plastic lens-mount! I haven't seen one of those since my Minolta film camera from 12 years back. And isn't that Alpha-mount (also of Minolta origin I believe) almost dead in the water by now too?
This is what I was expecting unfortunately...that the Nikon and its Sony sensor would outperform the Leica by what seems to be a considerable margin. How much longer can Leica get a way with this premium price/inferior performance thing? Even the new lenses are oversized and underperforming. Makes me start to doubt the image quality of their esoteric M and S series lenses too, are they really as good as everybody seems to think they are?
M W B G: All the haters are out in full force as per usually with any Leica announcment. Lots of positive reviews out there for this beast. Ill admit it does have some funky industrial design and seems rather large for a mirrorless, but it does what its meant to do and does it well. People here tend to forget these are just tools. I don't think many of the people commenting on here actually take pictures. Leica doesn't care what the haters say. They will do just fine without them. I don't know why everyone is comparing it to sony. Leica never stated this was made to compete with Sony. Its seems to be geared more towards dslr competition. It also looks more like a mini S than a sony. Sony does have some great sensors in their cameras but I just hated the clutter and the crap menue (a7 II) It's never inspired me to want to go out to take pictures. I found myself reaching over the sony to grab my old canon f1. If the price was maybe $4000 I'd probably buy one but it is overpriced for sure. Edited
@shigzeo: I like Apple products a lot...my laptop is a Mac and I use an iPhone. But as you know probably from forums on various tech websites, there are a lot of Apple haters out there, claiming they're products are overpriced and under specified with a closed ecosystem etc...those claims are the similarities between the two companies that I was getting at...people who don't use Apple products don't understand them, just as people who don't use Leica products don't get them either. I'm fond of both companies which is why I criticise them at times.
They're the Apple of the camera world. Except for the people that regularily use their products, everybody hates them!
Frank_BR: Leica may have thought this camera for use by battle reporters in the war on terror. First, the appearance of this camera with the 90-280mm lens is really frightening. This should be enough to paralyze the enemy for many seconds. But, even so the bad guy opens fire, the photographer just keeps the camera at eye level to protect his head. I'm sure the amount of aluminum used in the camera body is enough to stop a bullet from an AK-47.
After being impressed by the excellent (if overpriced) Leica Q, they go and release this monstrosity! Why is it so huge? Its FF not medium format. Then there's the odd unbalanced styling, contrast only AF (even if they claim its the fastest) contextual control system, which can be problematic and unintuitive if not implemented well (Leica T!). And this is what it seems to be - a gigantic Leica T! which was probably the company's worst offering in years.
Still I'll wait for final judgement after a full review. I'd heard rumours about this camera and was quite excited after the introduction of the excellent Q - a new R system! Will Leica disappoint again? We'll see...
GabrielZ: A solid phone with solid specs and a seemingly very good camera. I've been quite impressed by MS latest product releases, they're starting to give Apple a run for their money! And I'm an Apple fanboy, but a sane one! I can recognise quality in design by other manufactures and don't automatically put them down like a lot of Apple zealots do.
But as an Apple fanboy, I hope the company gets off its current high-horse, starts recognising that the competitions products are as good or better than theirs. And start innovating again like they used too, instead of this glacial evolutionary path they've been taking.
That said the 6S 3D Touch and Retina flash features are examples of elegant innovation that'll probably be copied. But as a photo enthusiast I'm still reeling in disappointment at the poor low-light performance and lack of fine detail on the 6S camera. Traditionally when Apple released a new iPhone, its camera was always best in class...not anymore!
I didn't know the retina flash concept had already been in use by other companies.
Impressive spec, especially the 950XL.
A solid phone with solid specs and a seemingly very good camera. I've been quite impressed by MS latest product releases, they're starting to give Apple a run for their money! And I'm an Apple fanboy, but a sane one! I can recognise quality in design by other manufactures and don't automatically put them down like a lot of Apple zealots do.
Wow this camera is pricey! If it wasn't for that, the lack of weather sealing, optical image stabilisation and 4K video (a lot of if's then!) this would be the first Sony camera I'd consider purchasing. Overall I think the Leica Q still tops it, even though that camera has a lower resolution and (for me anyway) too wide-angle a lens. I know it has crop modes, but with those you lose resolution. But if a future Q2 goes to a higher-res sensor than that would make the Q series almost unbeatable in its class!
GabrielZ: Well that's a little disappointing. Usually when a new iPhone is released its camera shoots to the top of its class. Not this time apparently, only 10th place! Even Sony's super dense 21MP camera beats it. I would of thought Apple's lower density/larger photo-site 12MP one would at least beat the Sony on low-light noise levels.
Interesting, I didn't know that.
Well that's a little disappointing. Usually when a new iPhone is released its camera shoots to the top of its class. Not this time apparently, only 10th place! Even Sony's super dense 21MP camera beats it. I would of thought Apple's lower density/larger photo-site 12MP one would at least beat the Sony on low-light noise levels.
An interesting if very pricey concept. I'd actually consider getting one if were a lot cheaper. It'd be nicer if it were more compact too, its seems to be about the same width as a relatively large DSLR...but then it is a first generation product. If they survive the next few years (I hope they do) it would be nice to see a more compact and much more affordable version of this unique camera.
I agree with most of DPreview's choices here. I'm glad to see a site like DPreview start to do this sort of thing. Its a rite of passage of sorts, means you've grown up and a lot of people now take what you think in the realm of photographic equipment seriously.
What an elegant simple solution, good on Sony. I have a feeling now Apple/Samsung et al might incorporate a similar solution on their future smartphone models.