aris14: 25 years ago our photographer lost (or it was stolen) all his equipment in the airport along with his travel bag. A motorcycle expo had to be covered for our mag. The only camera left was a compact (Canon or Minolta I can't remember). So editor and photographer went to the press day with that "little monster", did whatever they could and returned with some 20 rolls of film. To our surprise their job was great. We slightly changed our concept of presentation due to lack of some poses we had in mind and the "little monster" could not cope and OK.What I am saying is that photography in every aspect has traveled a long way since then.
The best camera is always the one that is in your hand.
Richard Murdey: And most important of all: why is the accent ring green? I thought the "HD" lenses wore red nowadays ...
Its possible they might still reserve the red rings for limiteds. Their limited line was completely revamped with red rings, so to go back would be kind of silly at this point. The 55-300 has a red ring too. I have one.
Mescalamba: Hm.. interesting choice of color for that seal. Exactly same as in Sony lens.
That's funny because it is the same color they have always used long before sony started producing weather sealed lenses.
Frank C.: the mighty Sony a9 /w 50M+ sensor will smack the Canon down and all the time and effort would have been for naught, shame really.
@vignes: This camera is going to be of interest to landscape photographers I would imagine primarily. Its hard to deny the power the sony sensors have in their ability to push shadows with very little noise. For night photography this has really transformed what I can capture without all the problems that HDR brings to that sort of long exposure photography. I can underexpose slightly to help preserve highlights and then push the shadows all over the place without any real penalty. At iso 100 I have to go 4 stops before I really get to unusable noise. Even at 400 I have lots of latitude. The real problem is of course highlights. If you can preserve them and push shadows it gives you a lot to work with versus having to choose one or the other. And yeah, ISO 100 is a very practical application for a lot of people. Anyone that does serious landscaping will be at or close to base ISO and on a tripod. DR matters to us.
Mssimo: 50mp sensor should need an amazing lens (at around f4 due to diffraction at that pixel size). This sensor will redefine what a L lens should be. My guess is that many lens replacements will be coming. Zeiss otus will pull away from sigma 50mm also. Both of them were close at 36mp, but at 50MP, you will see why the Otus is 4 times more money.
I wish sony would make a full frame sensor based on a scaled up version of the 20MP RX100. Can you imagine a 150MP BSI full frame sensor?
If you are only getting 12mp of detail from f11 on full frame its time to finally upgrade that quantaray. My 24mp aps-c K-3 shows significantly more resolving power at F11 than my 16mp K-5 IIs does. At the very least there are gains to be had in just out resolving a lens anyways. Elimination of moire is one for starters.
More DR = better images. Some people seem to forget that. I guess they are just used to using ancient sensor technology. Bracket much? ;)
zos xavius: These comments are truly hilarious! My K-3 has stepped flare patterns too. The only time I ever noticed it was in shots already ruined by veiling flare much like all the examples I've seen of the D750 flare "issue." This is so much ado about nothing. BTW, to the people that keep saying canon makes perfect cameras: get a grip.
That's funny because I find no joy really in using Canon gear. I just never really liked their gestalt. The Pentax K-3 and K-5 IIs though just fit like a glove. The have great ergonomics that are a pure pleasure to use. Especially with their grips attached. :)
These comments are truly hilarious! My K-3 has stepped flare patterns too. The only time I ever noticed it was in shots already ruined by veiling flare much like all the examples I've seen of the D750 flare "issue." This is so much ado about nothing. BTW, to the people that keep saying canon makes perfect cameras: get a grip.
JRFlorendo: This is a SLAM DUNK class action law suit, an engineering flaw by Nikon engineers, can't get any easier than that. Nikon just needs to slow down, it seem like they are coming out with a new FF camera every six months, at that rate, something is bound to get neglected. Sony and Toshiba already providing you with top grade sensors, slooow down and get the engineering and quality control right.
No. Its not.
marc petzold: Dear RICOH, you badly missed the point - we, the Users don't need especially a very slow 18-50mm f/4-5.6 zoom, especially not colappsile - if i need something way handy, i take a DSLM mirrorless anytime with me, over a DSLR, when space is an issue. But a traditional DSLR-styled body, with small lenses, especially F4 starting range....for whom is it made for? Take a NX3000 for instance with the PZ 16-50, and you do have a very nice Zoom Range from 24.5-83mm, starting at F3.5 to F5.6. Or any small NEX 3N to NEX-5N,R,T or A5x00 Series (Alpha) with the matching 16-50/3.5-5.6 PZ (the IQ is worse than the Samsung equivalent).
Furthermore why even bash pentax for producing an entry level body (which I must add blows all the other entry level DSLRs out of the water) and then mention the X-A1 at the same time? Contradictory much? But what do you know or care? You still have a K-100D with a tamron lens. Your so pentaxian you haven't bothered upgrading in 10 years. Yeah. Go enjoy your fuji. Or buy one if you don't have one for all I care. I'm not going to waste my time writing meaningless troll posts about how x-trans is a failure. (though I might have been guilty of that very same thing at one point) BTW, where is Fuji's answer to the 645Z? I think pentax is focusing on high end just fine.
This is hilarious! Its a freaking kit lens! Who cares if its constant f8? It might as well be! If it has high resolving power stopped down it would be still useful for many things. The old 18-55 was decent for a cheap kit lens. If you even remotely cared about losing a 1/3 stop at the wide end then you would obviously be looking at something better to replace it with anyways! Speaking of which many of pentax's non-star zooms are constant f4 or slower, so guess you are out of luck there too! Unlike the kit lens though, they are very usable at f4.
This kit lens has everything that everyone has been asking for really. Compact design, weather sealing, DC motor (FINALLY!!), and yet its supposed to be the equal of a far more expensive fuji lens? seriously?
BTW plenty of people matched limiteds to k-01s, k-30s and k-50s. Plenty of people bought those bodies for 2nd and even primary bodies because they were K-5 quality at a much cheaper price.
@marc petzold: ok cite one example where I am trolling on dpreview. yeah, that's what I thought. but sure lets have a 60+ comment thread about how ricoh is burning its users over a 1/3 stop on a kit lens that nobody in their right mind will even use wide open. Please. This is pathetic.
Your trolling is a joke. Period.
Even now this camera is amazing. I have a K-3 too and the K-5 IIs still gets regular use. It has been the most faithful and reliable Pentax I've had over the years. It's IQ has never let me down and is better than even the K-3 in certain ways. 16mp and decent lenses have given me beautiful poster sized prints. It's no D800, but its a lot smaller and lighter than one too. Paired with some small limiteds it is really hard to go wrong unless you need absolute speed or shoot sports. The files from the IIs have a crispness that the K-5/K-30/K-50 all lack. Removing the AA filter really makes a difference in a big way and has forced me to upgrade my kit to take advantage of it. Not that moving on to better lenses is ever a bad thing..... :)
There are tons of amazing and fun vintage lenses you can get for pentax for peanuts too. Yeah you can adapt them to other systems, but being able to just slap a lens on a mount and not worry about aperture or AF if the lens has it is nice.
tecnoworld: This morning I had a brief shooting session with the canon 6d of a friend, coupled with a sigma 70-200 f2.8 lens. He paid 2.000€ for the combo.
I think that for someone not needing 15fps or 4k video, that combo is much, much better than nx1+50-150, costs 1000€ less and delivers better iq.
I looked at the Reichmann review and I was actually impressed. High ISO looks a good stop better than my k-5 iis even, which for me was the lowlight king of aps-c. Coming from a 24mp k-3 I can say that with good glass you can easily out resolve a 6d which has an AA filter too. The real problem is that you need really good lenses where a 6d can perform comparatively with lesser lenses because they aren't as challenged. What Samsung has put together here is impressive in terms of IQ. How the camera handles and actually works is another deal, but their tracking AF seems pretty good really. Hopefully this will give Sony some competition on the sensor front.
solarider: Specs: RAW (SRW)
What, no DNG files? What were they thinking?
Pentax raw files are dng if you want them to be. Its just a container. There isn't any difference for me in using Pentax raw or dng. It's possible the conversion in software is doing something to the raw data when converted to dng. Really it sounds like adobe needs to get on the ball and offer native support. Nothing should be cooked once its out of the camera.
Maklike Tier: RichRMA, have you seen the MTF values of the new 40-150? It's as good as the best primes, weather sealed, AND significantly cheaper than the older four-thirds glass.
Coatings don't increase resolution, but they increase transmission. Sure zooms can be prime sharp at their optimal focal lengths. That's a product of design not coatings.
Simon97: Raw at 1600 looks like Canon has made some improvement in noise performance. It is small, but along with more pixels it is evident. My favorite APS-C sensor is the Sony 16mp. I kind of wish they'd improve upon it rather than go with more pixels. Still waiting to see how the Sony 20mp sensor looks on this test scene.
I don't think I'll be parting with my k-5 IIs anytime soon even with a K-3. The sony 16mp sensor really hit the sweet spot in terms of performance on aps-c.
Zeisschen: My observations:
- Sharpness on pixel level is very bad, actually it's incredibly soft. I hope I can't blame the lens as a Canon lens at F8-F10 should be sharp! Other reviews suggest that's due to the stronger anti aliasing filter compared to 7DmkI that shall give less moiré in videos.
- The dynamic range, even at ISO 100, is really bad. Even my now 3 years old Sony NEX-7 wipes the floor with this sensor looking at the amount of contrast and color I can pull out of shadows without getting noise at ISO 100. There is no banding visible like on the 7DmkI, but that's proabably just due to a better processing.
- 7DmkII has very old and outdated sensor tech with some improved processing power inside. It's made to be a fast camera with very fast AF for action and sports shooters. For them this camera will be just fine and certainly do the job.
- More picture quality demenading photography like Portrait, Landscape and Macro should be done with better sensored cameras.
These comments are hilarious. Who cares about DR?? Wow. DR is arguably perhaps the most important metric. 12 stops is really only one stop better than slide film. I can push my files from the k5 I and IIs all over the place. I can barely push shadows from my k-7 1EV before banding gets ugly. Many scenes have wide, challenging tonal ranges. But yeah, DR is only for pixel peepers and armchair photogs right? Its one of the most important metrics IMO.
photo perzon: More Panasonic jpeg skin colors?
Panny has the worst colors. Noisy sensors, bad color, aggresive nr, useless JPEGs. No thanks. Wake me when they get it right.