SteveY80: I can't really see why I'd buy one of these considering the excellent Sigma and Tamron macro lenses in the same price range. The older 90mm Tamron is actually a bit cheaper and lighter, with the advantage of automatic aperture, and also AF if it's needed (e.g. if using it as a dual purpose macro/portrait lens).
In my opinion, only having manual aperture is a significant disadvantage for macro, where you'll usually be stopped down to a narrow aperture. That's why I stopped using a manual lens on extension tubes and got a native macro lens.
The manual aperture does not matter so much to anyone using a mirrorless/evf system, but agree that the pricing is ambitious given some excellent AF optics being available at a lower price.
I'n surprised that the a7 and a7mII are not in the same category... is this the only way of explaining why the scores for the 7's RAW files is better than for the 7mII?
Kwick1: Canon needs to realize that the money is in the lenses, not the bodies. Doesn't matter if it's a DSLR or this lame attempt at a MILC. If you sell the blades, it doesn't matter whose razor it is.
I don't think that is the case any more - unlike the days of film each body has its own sensor, which gets surpassed by new technology plus we use our digital cameras more and actually wear them out... I think purchasers of a modern system are likely to buy as many bodies as lenses over a long term, as lenses do not wear out or get replaced by something that is markedly better.
Good luck to them!
Well done Nikon. The fix will be expensive, but easier to bear than damage to reputation. There is a real need for adequate product testing - trouble is that market pressures can lead to product releases before they are fully ready - this could well apply to other brands (who will be under the same sort of pressures) as well.
Onteo: Any chance of getting a curved FF sensor? //genuine question
Heard that curved sensor would allow for smaller optics so my dream comes true. A very small travel/trekking camera with a couple of lens, either two zoom or 3/4 primes to cover it all.
It must be a very hard thing to do if it is not yet done.
Difficult for an interchangeable lens camera - current interchangeable lenses are corrected to focus on a flat plane, so if a curved sensor is used it would most likely be in a fixed lens camera like the RX1..
stormy_weather: "The a7 II is the world's first full-frame camera with in-body image stabilization" ... really?
Sony a900, a850, a99...
Very glad to see sensible pricing! I was driven away from DXO as a RAW converter because of the prohibitive price of a version that would handle full-frame RAW files. Good to have access to the best RAW converter again, and even better that it integrates with lightroom so well.
W5JCK: I've got the a7 and a6000 E/FE mount cameras, several Sony lenses and a large number of third party Canon and Nikon lenses. None of my lenses or adapters wiggle or have any issues with the E/FE mounts. I think this is merely a product you never knew you needed until a slick "snake oil" salesman convinces you it is indeed necessary! The stupid are so quickly and easily parted from their money by slick salesmen. This is a totally unnecessary replacement part designed to satisfy the growing number of idiots who buy cameras, really good cameras, but have no clue about how they work and function. I bet that replacement mount fits so tight that some lenses won't detach!
While I agree that the add-on is probably not needed, I think it is a little unfair to label those who show an interest as idiots or as stupid..
CameraLabTester: "Limited product warranty on loose threads, lost screws inside camera body, misaligned mounting, AF readjustments, and other shocking surprises awaiting the adventurous tinker tailor soldier spy."
AF readjustments not likely to be such a problem as AF is assessed at the sensor.
Good to see Damien gainfully employed!
That wider focus area will be much appreciated on an a99 MkII..
The moon moves surprisingly fast...
Kevin Sutton: Anyone apart from me think this camera looks rather ugly? That faux-pentaprism is not very pretty, unlike the E-M1 version that harks back to the OM-2, which was a truly pretty camera. Cheers Kevin
Yes it is ugly, but a lot of very good cameras have been. The vertical grip is why they have gone for a 'hump' - imagine it with a side viewfinder and it would be much prettier... The bulge might have given them the option of upping that viewfinder magnification though.
The 57 f1.2 will probably be just a Hexanon - the M-Hexanon is an M mount lens which I don't think would ever be found for $30...
..but isn't it just fantastic that this sort of stuff is even possible?
I think a fair amount of the attraction of these cameras is to use legacy MF glass on them: I bought a NEX 7 about 18 months ago and still only have one AF lens, the rest is via adapters.
No, they both have Mag-alloy top-plates and chassis, but the front plate of the 7r is also magnesium alloy. The construction of the dials is slightly better on the 7r as well.
Think the comparison panel on page 1 might have a transposition - I understand the 7r has the magnesium alloy front panel, whice the 7 has polycarbonate.
Good price point for a mirrorless with EVF: if people want a better viewfinder and rear screen, the NEX 6 seems to fill the bill...