photominion: They simply realized that a shrinking market was a waste of time and money.Samsung would never be able to get back investments that would be necessary to push their cameras to a noteworthy level.I'm not talking about "fame on dpr" but about sales numbers, new customers, brand ambassadors, etc.
The marketing budget for their mobile phones is ridiculous, but they got to the top and beat Apple at their own game..Contrary to the camera market, mobile sales are still climbing and there's sooo much more money to be made.
Samsung sells a lot more phones compared to Apple. At least double. 400 millionish
bluevellet: 3300 bucks...
This camera costs too much. I'll pay one thousand dollars. That is all.
rkny: Was hoping to see a dramatic improvement in low light noise vs the RX1. It does seem to have improved, in the underexposed areas of processed files, but not dramatically. I'm still seeing sizable grain/noise and even a few hot pixels that my RX1 doesn't display.
I didn't notice you said RX1. 24mp vs 42. Even more so. How could you expect a dramatic improvement in noise? It doesn't make any sense.
Well...all you have to do is compare the A7r vs the A7rmk2...that should have set your expectations in check... I don't understand how you could have expected anything more dramatic...it doesn't make sense.
Snikt228: Any comparisons of uncompressed and compressed RAW? Did it make any sizable difference?
Did that really just happen!? You couldn't copy and paste??? 😫
rjx: I really liked the Fujifilm system. But I haven't looked back since I got the A7II. Sony & Zeiss released a lot of very good glass in a somewhat short period of time to make up for the lackluster selection, imo.
I am drooling over the 25,55 and 85 Zeiss lenses they have, optically extremely good.
brownie314: Hard to understand how the d610 didn't win in this group. Sure, no WiFi (built in anyway), and video AF sucks, but for thinhs that matter to stills photographers (taking good images) this thing rocks. Makes everything else look stupid or broken. This is still a photography website right?
Lol yeah ISO 3200 is the max!! Hahaha! I got my shutter replaced right before they stopped carrying the parts. I would like a 1dsmk2 but the batteries suck!!! But I'd enjoy the better AF.
Very long in the tooth. But very enjoyable. You get home and look at the files and just smile. I only have 4(16-35mk1, 35l, 85 1.2l mk1 and 135l) lenses for it, but I'll keep it till it dies and rent what ever I need .
I'm going to go shoot it today!
Combatmedic870: If I were in the market to buy into a new mirrorless system right now. I would go with Fuji(like I did). They have by FAR the best lens line up. New bodies will come. Just like they always do. They is just no way to overlook their superior lens line up. They have nearly everything you could want except super telephoto(which is coming next year). Right now 12-230mm soon to be 12-400mm.
2016 will be a good Fuji year. New XPro, XT and XE models.
Brownie, I was just letting you know I wasn't baiting you. I did specify mirrorless. :)
Brownie, I still have my old 5d. It has some sort of magic sensor. It and the 1dmk2s. The both have some magic to them. I have found no camera to match these sensors in rendering. If only the AF was better in the 5d and I'd use it more.
I'm serious though. Check out some 5d and 1dsmk2 galleries. They are amazing cameras that have yet to be surpassed in my opinion. I think it has to do with the digic processor perhaps.
Nathan8: My camera didn't win...
*hides in the corner and cries*
Mine weren't even in any of the round ups...I don't know how I should react to this.
Androole, m4/3 is still missing a basic, optically great 17.5 mm...the only this Fuji is missing vs m4/3 is a super telephoto. Sure m4/3 has more lenses, but most of them are over laps. They are just now coming out with high quality lenses (besides the leicas). Almost all of Fuji lenses are on par or optically superior...
All of this is just in my opinion of coarse.
I have a XE-1 and a GM5 ,so I'm not a M4/3 hater.
LJ, ibis isn't a must. Sure it's great for video. But I don't and most people that use Fuji don't shoot video(cause it sucks! I'll just use my phone..lol). I usually shoot to stop motion (1/125 or above) so I really wouldn't benefit from ibis. But I guess it couldn't hurt as long as it doesn't raise the price of the cameras. With Fuji most lenses that need IS have it. I'd rather have no IS and be better optically or smaller.
Brownie314, yes they do have a better line up vs canon and nikons mirrorless FF cameras. I specifically said mirrorless.
I will say they still do need a good 16-70/80 F4 lens for me to buy.
If I were in the market to buy into a new mirrorless system right now. I would go with Fuji(like I did). They have by FAR the best lens line up. New bodies will come. Just like they always do. They is just no way to overlook their superior lens line up. They have nearly everything you could want except super telephoto(which is coming next year). Right now 12-230mm soon to be 12-400mm.
dr Ate: How can you recommend the Samsung NX1 in the light of recent rumors (unconfirmed) regarding the termination of production of digital cameras by Samsung?
dagobah: This is sad. And I really don't get the harpies crowing over their market pullback, since fewer companies and less choice is bad for consumers. While I never owned Samsung gear, I thought they had their act together and I was very impressed when trying out their latest cameras (NX500, NX Mini).
Samsung entered the digital photography market in a partnership with Pentax, rebadging the Pentax K10D and K20D as Samsung GX-10 and GX-20, and making their own version of K-mount lenses. Then they disappeared from that partnership and developed the NX line. It looked good to me, basically a well-made and well-thought-out APS-C mirrorless system. I guess the shrinking camera market really didn't allow for another mirrorless APS-C line, and Sony had already grabbed that space (with a few crumbs left to Fuji).
First we are talking about MILC... You know this. Second if you bring REAL RANGEFINDER cameras in. You'll have to go back a lot further then that. No reason to limit it to digital if you going to be an idiot. You guy know we are talking about modern mirrorless cameras that have auto focus since we were talking about Sony and Samsung. Also. Regardless of how you look at Samsung released a modern MILC before Sony. It's how it is.
It's ok.. You've got some knowledge now :)
Combatmedic870: People better start selling off their nx gear before Samsung makes an official statement saying they are leaving the market. Price will go from $1100 for an nx1 to $500 overnight.
Uuuh... Because I want a cheap kit... Duhh
No. You are wrong. The first apsc mirrorless was Samsung the nx10 was announced January 4th 2010. Sony released the NEX 5 May 11th 2010. Get your facts straight.