The best enthusiast compacts which can make me leave the DSLR should be the Ricoh GR. :p
Its IQ can on par with any APSC size DSLR.
Digital Imaging Technician: OK, Dpreview says "Both bodies are made of a magnesium alloy" which makes it sound like they are both identical. The preview from The Camera Store says A7 has a plastic front and some plastic dials. See video at 3:44: https://youtu.be/bnvgceTEV3c#t=3m44sIs this true?
The A7 has magnesium alloy front panel (around the mount) and top panel.While A7r has magnesium alloy front panel(larger cover part of the hand grip) and top panel and dial.
The image of the internal body A7:http://www.sony.jp/products/picture/a7_body_magnesium.jpg
The image of the internal body A7R:http://www.sony.jp/products/picture/a7R_body_magnesium.jpg
King Penguin: Not my cup of tea yet.....not enough fast primes, but this development will kill off M43 OMDs which are crippled with a sensor a quater of the size.
Come on Nikon, I love my D600 (even with the oil/shutter issues and now cr*p resale values).......but give us something similar and I'll get one......
Sony's small size FF camera is not going to kill m43.It is totally different target user.It just tried to fill the gap, a unique product in the market.It target for those who currently bring a large FF DSLR to trip but feel too heavy, however they don't want to sacrifice IQ, DOF, high ISO ability and this will fit their need.
Zoron: So when A9 the pro version launching?
I bet it will be a DSLR size E-mount FF camera.
taktak91: Great specs, but ugly.Whoever designed the A77 probably had no say in this camera.
"Great specs, but ugly."Totally Agree.However Sony make this camera not to please current Sony user. It tried to attract Cankon & Olympus User.So Sony has to make a camera that meet their taste.I believe Olympus User will like this design very much :p
wilson 3a10: Is Alpha mount dead?
Alpha mount camera is dead.Alpha mount lens keep alive by E-A adapter. :P
Fiacre: Very very good ! A pity that there is no touch screen and NO SENSOR STABILIZATION !!! If the next model is with a correct sensor stabilization, and if there is some good small primes, i sell my Olympus OM-D !!
Please look at the sensor, it is a Full Frame Sensor, it is huge large. There is not more spare space for IBIS.It is impossible to add IBIS without increase the size of the camera.
wootpile: fantastic camera from Sony, well done. Just wish they would adopt the side-mounted swivel screens that offer much more versatility - for example Nikon 5200
I like to screen in A77 or A99 too.But it seem impossible for this small size Full Frame camera.
The screen does not pop out from the camera doesn't means it does not use some space inside the camera.If the joint is on the side of the screen like 70d or d5200, it has to reduce the size of the screen or increase the length of the camera.I don't think it is a good idea.
Full Frame camera definitely need more space for the sensor.Canon 5d mk3 & Nikon D800 cannot flip out the LCD too.
iudex: I am a bit surprised to read DPR finds the price of A7 high. I don´t remember this to be pointed out when the Oly E-M1 was introduced and man, this is one overpriced camera. 1400 USD (body only) for 4/3" sensor or 1700 USD for a fullframe? The A7 is a bargain.
In my option, the price of A7 is in good value.Full Frame sensor, small size, solid build, weather shield, lots of dial & buttons. It is a unique product in the market.
Those argue that the lens is too expensive,I would say high quality lens are always expensive.Without checking the IQ of the lens, you can't compliant it is overprice.If you want cheap lens, you can always get one from Sigma or other third party. I am sure Sigma will make FF E-mount lens in near future. or You can get the adapter and put on any lens you can afford.
wetsleet: Once a camera gets to this size, and the lenses too, is there much of a size or weight benefit left over FF DSLR? That is, once you stick a pro lens on the front, will you notice the weight saving of mirror and box? And if not, are there any other advantages of mirrorless over mirror to recompense the loss of the optical viewfinder? Speed maybe? Reaction time? I'm just thinking out loud...
@ photo nuts :I agree that the EVF in OMD EM5 is very rubbish & poor quality with only 1.44M-dot resolution. I didn't buy this camera because the EVF in EM5 is totally not usable.
However, I suggest you should try the EVF in OMD EM1,It is totally different level, 2.36M-dot resolution, impressive 1.48x magnification and 29ms image display lag time.I would say the new high quality EVF is better than traditional OVF.
Back to topic, the EVF from Sony A7 & A7r has similar resolution as OMD EM1 and it is make of OLED, which has better contrast and pure black. I suggest you should make a try first before you make your conclusion.
RX1 for sure. (Pocketable FF)It is the only camera that is Real revolution .The others camera just increase the sensor pixels and add some little feature only.
SamChua: Earth to Olympus...the Nikon P500 also has 36X zoom and it came out first.
Nikon P500 is 22.5mm - 810mmOlympus SP-810UZ is 24mm - 864mmSo Olympus's has a longer zoom than Nikon's.36x is the ratio between the wide end and tele end.It does not show how long it can zoom.