brettchris: the article says there is an adaptor for EF lens: it does not specifically say if EF-S lens are compatible; does anybody know?
YES - all EF-S glass works fine - have no fears. I give my 60 macro EF-S and 15-85 EF-S regular use using the Canon AF adapter. PS - if you don't mind going MANUAL focus consider picking up older perhaps none Canon glass and using a simple adapter. This way I can use loads of older glass such as my 500mm Clubman lens (its not very good but it was VERY cheap) when I need to without shelling out big bucks. Having fun.
Oohrah: Outstanding. I love my EOS M and my wife really likes hers. The quality of images we're able to get are fantastic.
I can imagine this being much better overall, especially with the new tilt screen and faster AF.
Will look forward to buying one off Ebay when they become available.
Its a crazy thing - most people who love the EOS-M ( including me I now have two cause their CHEAP) have actually used one and most people who hate it ( its the end of the World for Canon etc) have not actually ever used one. Far from perfect I have strongly considered getting a 3rd but will now wait for the new M3 to drop in price - give it 12 months - my guess down from £599 KIT to £350 - £450 KIT. Let's see.
Greg VdB: Funny to see that only 17% of voters outside of the USA are interested in buying the M3 (because they can), whereas 36% of Americans WOULD buy the camera (because they can't). Psychology 101 right there :-)
LOL! The EOS-M was said to have bombed in the US because Americans love BIG things - not sure that's 100 % correct. More likely the terrible AF killed it and consumers (the World over) like to buy things that reflect well on themselves and are not seen as 2nd rate…which frankly the AF was its a little better after the update but ist no where compared to some of the other small cameras I use such as the Pana GH4 and the Olympus Pen 5. BUT it beats BOTH for the wonderful warm images it can produce….go figure.
4everAnoob: I hope Eos M2 prices on eBay will now drop to Eos M1 levels. If only the 22mm EF-M could exist for Sony e-mount... Than I wouldnt really car for the Eos M at all
The 22 f2 is a stunner - in FF its a 35 f2 - I have owned a number of 35mm lenses and the tiny little (cheap) Canon lens is in a different class - far far better than either my Nikkor 35 f2 AI or its AF replacement my 35 f2 AF. Both now long gone - the 22 f 2 is almost perfect and did I say its CHEAP. PS - are you sure you can't get an adapter - there seem to be adapters for most glass nowerdays.
frenchie44: I got an eos M last year, I have 5 canon SLRs and wanted a " take everywhere cam" for when I am carrying a 7D with 500mm lense outfit. I am very pleased with the M, I cannot fault the picture quality at all, easy to use, focus is very accurate, it does feel like a quality item with the metal body. the only problem I had was when I first got it every time I wanted to use it I put it up to my eye, then made sure no one was watching and used at it should be used. the M 18-55 lens is a really nice lens, better than the old ef version that was bundled with 40D etc.
I also love the EOS-M ( I now have two) and have produced pro level video and stills using them, I love the fact that with cheap adapters I can use all of my older glass as well as retaining AF using any of my 9 EF/ EF-S glass. Far from perfect and much hated I love mine. I have strongly considered getting a 3rd as a sort of extra back up. Shame the M3 (great model number - does Lecia know? Long go they blocked Olympus from calling their OM1 just the M1 because it was 'theirs') doesn't have the full dual pixel AF from the 70D (shame) - looking forward to the price drop - and crazy as it sounds if its hated (by people who have never used it) the price will drop even faster/ further - bring it on!
Must know - any flare issues ? Oh no of course not its the wrong 750……
lotuz9: This camera is such a disappointment that 10 people already had it, and only 1 still have it, according to gear numbers above:)
stratplaya: Looks like after 8 years Canon was finally able to make a copy of the Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8. Congrats, Canon!
Which the new Tamron 15 - 30 kicks its a*se ! See Matt Granger - not exactly known for being shy about raving about Nikon kit. Given that the Canon is so much newer we should fully expect it to kick the a*se of both the Nikon & the Tamron.
Well, I for one am pleased to see the M3 - no its not a GH4 nor a A7 - of course Canon will not allow it to be until they elect to go for the mirroless market fully at which point I have no fears that they could take the market… I have two EOS-M's - which most people seem to HATE having never actually used one. Be even better if the M3 is another sales flop - £199 inc kit lens - Oh yes - bring it on! Note - DPR - NO FLARE ISSUES !
And we all know how stupid that measurement scale is ! I'm sure some just click Had it/ Got Rid just for the hell...
Bottomline - DSLR's, serious compacts and rangefinders which we all love whatever brand we are loyal too are the next Betamax or Laserdisc ( I have both) - you'll look foolish for having one in a few years time but COOL in 30 years....I love my Nikkormat FT2 (1977) so well make it will outlast us all - but its dumb and stupid by modern standards.
justmeMN: The results from other camera manufacturers will be even worse. As an example, Olympus' camera division has been losing money for years.
Well I agree in part -all of the big brands apart from Nikon make money elsewhere - this might be the reason why they are trying so hard (too hard) to gain market share. After the D600 they should have never introducted the D610 - if I have been advising them I would have dropped all referance too a D600 ish model. Now the D750 has a big problem with a recall...Please understand me Canon (my main brand) are far from perfect and they have problems too, just not on the scale that Nikon seem to.
And remember Olympus have form - they killed off the entire OM 35mm range leaving their users high and dry - it took many many years before they brought out new (digital) SLR's. There is NOTHING stopping them doing it again as their profits decline.
SushiEater: On the right of this page there is latest reviews section showing D750 90% and Canon 7D Mark II 84%. Those are your 6%. Every one now buying Nikon not Canon.
Life is so simple....
A mixed picture for Canon but profits are UP even when overall sales numbers are DOWN - the key to good business even in a changing marketplace. For all those who demand Canon do 'better' learn the lesson - Canon are making still MORE money from cameras and are still Number One compare that to their main rival Nikon - a series of great cameras pushing ahead at break neck speed but very poor QC and lots of problems. I still think that BOTH brands will end up as PHOTO APPS on some future device....
Sad Joe: Well, DPR took its sweet time but we now have 'proof' that the top Canon has the same fault ? OK - so why aren't Canon recalling them all ? Why aren't 1DX users finding the fault? Why aren't 1DX users demanding its sorted out RIGHT NOW ? Sorry DPR I simply don't believe its the same issue nor the same volume of problem. Me ? Even if I were going a D750 I'd hold off for several months as its retail price is going to sink as people simply don't buy it in the numbers Nikon need to make money. Another great camera ruined by STINKER QC. Bring on the D760....
RE: The article asks the same question, and suggests it's because 1DX owners are pros and too busy shooting to whine about an "issue" that doesn't matter - WHAT ? - if I do a pro shoot and some of the images I intend to sell are ruined by a camera fault I'd moan my head off and so would all the pros I know. I think its strange that DPR appears to have gone out of its way to show that we simply MUST forgive Nikon and its below par D750... very strange indeed.
Paul B Jones: Replacing good middle class jobs with no pension, no benefits "independent contractor" positions makes a lot of sense - for the handful of millionaires and billionaires. This is why the combined wealth of the richest one percent will overtake that of the other 99% by 2016.
Bang on my friend - new tech always does this when in the hands of those who can command what wages are paid - always down for the masses and up for the few. Sadly I cant see how you can stop this...
Cane: Can you imagine the outrage in the horse forums when the car was introduced?
LOL! There was loads and lots of people wanted cars BANNED !!
Jim Evidon: This is what happens when the bottom line becomes the only reason to operate a business. When you have the company run by the bean counters rather than by the product oriented management as was the case at one time, then the only thing that matters is increasing profit margin over what it was in the last quarter.
This is the demand of the investment community aka Wall Street. Theinvestment gurus on Wall Street make a prediction as to what the next quarter's profits and dividends will be. If the company doesn't make that mark even though it may have increased it's profits over the last quarter, the company is deemed to have failed and the stock price drops. This is what happens when the decisions are made by the street instead of the company's product division.
It is all going down hill fast and it seems to make no difference what product the company makes as long as it can cut costs to artificially inflate the profit line to keep the investors happy.
Welcome to the new reality.
Some good points well made. The only way to make good money from photography today is to sell TRAINING & INSIGHT to those who dream of being the next Dennis... I got out of pro weddings some years back - not worth all the hard work and clients demanding work for less (or nothing). Enjoy taking pics guys but dream on if you think its a good living anymore...
Well, DPR took its sweet time but we now have 'proof' that the top Canon has the same fault ? OK - so why aren't Canon recalling them all ? Why aren't 1DX users finding the fault? Why aren't 1DX users demanding its sorted out RIGHT NOW ? Sorry DPR I simply don't believe its the same issue nor the same volume of problem. Me ? Even if I were going a D750 I'd hold off for several months as its retail price is going to sink as people simply don't buy it in the numbers Nikon need to make money. Another great camera ruined by STINKER QC. Bring on the D760....