Sad Joe: This sounds very clever - but does it work ? And will others follow their lead? It seems almost too good to be true.
Interesting - I know that the Sony A7 is meant to have problems with its shutter and now problems with its part plastic mount have begun to surface. I always buy cameras well after they have hit the streets for two good reasons: 1: THe price comes down 2: The bugs are sorted out. Now if only I'd followed by own rules a few years back when buying a VW Golf (MK4) - one of the first produced - such a bag of nails I will NEVER buy another newer VW ever again….
Sad Joe: Well CURRYS / PC World in the UK are selling off their very last EOS-M's for just £149 (about $250) brand new and boxed complete with flash and std kit zoom - I am tempted to buy another ( I already have two), until Nikon and Canon get real about Mirrorless tech both brands will suffer. Used a Fuji XT1 recently - lovely (want one pls) but expensive compared to flog off Canons and Nikons !
Er, no - because I have a boot load of good Canon glass. Its not that I'm blind to other brands - I've used a Pen 5 (not impressed colours were all wrong) Fuji XT-1 (wow - but poor video) Pana GH4 (well impressed) so at the moment it makes no sense to jump brands. If I were - it would be for a GH4 - because of the video….I am certain that as time passes BOTH Canon & Nikon will (have to) get their mirrorless issues sorted…
PK2014 for me ? Two words: Next time……
So now we know why the EOSM 3 (pro spec) & 5d4 (with full 4k) aren't at PK 2014 - Canon's TOP DESIGNERS have been working on how to coat a mid priced camera white and charge over 100 % more for it. Sorry Canon - a poor, very poor PR stunt….
I loved the idea of a 7D and it felt so good in the hand - but three things put me off - 1st high ISO was said to be poor, 2nd problems with the complex AF, 3rd it was very expensive (when brand new) and you could also throw in that almost every Canon DSLR shared the same sensor, so the 7D could not give a better image than a camera from the bottom of the range. Well, having disliked the EOS-M but having finally brought not one but two (and I love the images I get) I'll hold my fire. I wonder just how many people who diss a camera ever actually use it ? Not many I'll bet.
OK - I know this is an old review for a much disliked camera (almost always by people who have never tried one) - just reviewing images taken at a wedding during the week with an EOS-M and an Olympus pen 5 - NO CONTEST - the CANON images just POP with colour and life - yes the Pen has fast AF (much faster) but the final images from the little M are brilliant. Come on Canon get serious and support the M series as you know you should.
PS - met with a guy from Panasonic earlier today about the GH4 (most interesting) - he quoted that Canon have over 20 % and are increasing market share - Pan have 17 % and Nikon also have 17 % of the total DSLR/Mirrorless market at the £700 price point (UK) trouble ahead for Nikon me thinks….
A cool cat of a lens - nice !
Denis the Menace: Still not available at Amazon, B&H, or Adorama? Maybe more issues than just production. I bet there just aren't that many orders out there.
I think your spot on - I also believe as I stated in an earlier post that the main retailers have REFUSED to stock it seeing it as another bargain bin camera in say 12-18 mths. All of which is sad because Nikon are clearly trying to crack the mirrorless market - their just not doing it correctly.
Well CURRYS / PC World in the UK are selling off their very last EOS-M's for just £149 (about $250) brand new and boxed complete with flash and std kit zoom - I am tempted to buy another ( I already have two), until Nikon and Canon get real about Mirrorless tech both brands will suffer. Used a Fuji XT1 recently - lovely (want one pls) but expensive compared to flog off Canons and Nikons !
OK folks - were are Nikon & Canon in this bun fight ? Standing well back whilst the 'new kids' on the block fight it out - this is just what Nikon did when AF can along and Canon despite not being 1st with AF took the market right from under their noses. History repeating itself ? We shall see.
It'll be a bargain at 1/3 price ! Sorry but whilst the V3 is a step forward neither Nikon nor Canon (I use both brands) have got serious about mirror less (yet) my fav camera is an EOS-M (don't laugh) which must be the most underated Canon ever. Yep - V3 for £300 - bargain - start the que here - cause at £800+ Nikon aint gonna sell any….I strongly suspect that many leading retailers have REFUSED to stock it…..
Where was the Nikon D810 ??? This is DPR isn't it ? - I simply could not take pics using old household tat without a D810….
I hate to admit it but I think Nikon are finally taking the correct course with their (so far failed) 1 series. The V3 might be of interest to those wanting a pocket rocket but its far too expensive and still poorly served by others such as Tamron who are about to introduce their first lens for the (so far failed) Canon EOS-M system. I think the future will be dominated by smart phones, a few clever CSC and even fewer FF - unless FF can 1: come down in price FAST (difficult) 2: Really provide a better image for the AVERAGE user (almost impossible). The DSLR as we have known it will be DEAD. Still at least Nikon are having a go with the V3. Come on Canon where is the EOS-M 3 ??
Nice video - well shot ( I take it NOT via an Olympus as their current video models are poor) Shame that DRP didn't see fit to cover this same news item 4 times - then again it's NOT a Nikon….Anyone else fed up with YET MORE D810 news ?
WELL DONE FUJI ! As a Canon & Nikon user I do wonder how many of the 'improvements' newer cameras have could come via clever software updates….Ps - I love my two EOS-M's (no really - forget the negative reviews its a GREAT pocket DSLR) but I tried out a Fuji TX-1 at a wedding recently - superb. The pro I was working with is seriously considering selling off his FF Nikon kit he's that impressed with his TX-1. Perhaps Nikon & Canon should consider what this means to their business rather than half baked upgrades such as the D610 & D810 or a Canon 5d4 ????
As an ex APERTURE user and still an Apple user/ fan I'm not sure what to make of this news. I fear that its another sign that Apple without JOBS is more worried about holding on to its vast wealth than spending/ risking some of it updating (what could be) key products. Another nail ? Perhaps.
HarrieD7000: Great, as an amateur photographer I was thinking to step up to FF. I was putting mony aside to do so, and hoping Nikon would bring an upgrade for the D800's. The upgrade is here. My money not. But at the time I have the money for a new camera, this will be tested, and on the market for a few months. If nothing negative is heard of this camera by then, I buy this one. From what I saw today it must be a beast of a camera for an amateur like me.
If you really want to go FF (fast) try the D700 - low pix count/ no video - but otherwise excellent. BUT I would strongly recommend you try FF as its NOT THE MIRCLE some reviewers would make you think. I used a 5d2 and an EOS-M on one shoot recently . An old but well regarded FF compared to a much hated mirrorless - can I see the difference in 99 % of my images ? > NO.
OK - but just how much coverage does DPR expect to do - I've seen enough already. Well done to Nikon for updating an already good camera, I know of at least one pro who will LOVE the S Raw feature. I saw one of their wonderful promo movies on U Tube for the D810 - however it clearly demostrated how little of the final image is created by the photographer as she had at least a team of 10 helping her light, set props, set models etc….Guess the cost of the D810 was about 5 % of the total……
Most interesting - the new super cheap 10–18 mm EF-S is of most interest to me as I shoot APS-C and APS-C M. Also interesting that it has the almost silent steper motor whereas the vasty higher cost 16-35 f4 doesn't…..OK Canon enough - lets get some more M lenses on the stocks too and a higher more pro spec EOS-M 3 whilst your in the mood.
Sorry - but what normal photographer shoots at 3000 ISO plus and if it takes that to start to see a visible difference… bit like saying if I blow the image up to 30 foot by 60 foot the 4DS is the winner….crazy !
And how does any of this translate to real world PRINT quailty - I'm ALWAYS shocked at how much of the image quailty is gone when I have photos printed.
In the getting ever shorter term NONE of this matters as smart phones continue to kill off camera sales….