I bought a silver Nikon DF because it had only what I needed and was full frame. I have other cameras for function, but the DF is a blast to take out for the fun stuff. The Oly E-P5 is the same way for me but was replaced by the A6000, which does most everything well. I love the look of this one, too, just don't know if there is a hole in my bag for it.
I'm lucky to have seen most of the originals these new cameras are sorta based on, and lucky enough to be able to afford both a work bag and a fun bag of kit.
Great article. Pieces like this keep me coming back to dpreview, even after the Amazon tie-in tainted the actual reviews (IMHO).
Don't overthink this camera, it is what it is! I have the AW100, took it to the theme parks here in Florida, got great SNAPS with no worries! My sons are playing in the pool, and I throw it in after them. They get priceless SNAPS. I paid $150 for it on closeout at Office Depot, and it has been worth every penny. Low expectations are very easily satisfied. I think it does exactly what it was intended to do, but then I'm not Jacques Cousteau.
Really nice, but I can put a 35 or a 50 on my A6000 and save enough to pay for the trip to go someplace spectacular and shoot. I have an A7ii, and even it gets left home sometimes in favor of the A6000. I do appreciate the exercise, and hope some of this trickles down to the A7000(?) though...
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$22 in parts and 3 minutes and my A58 sports a Sony-sourced metal lens mount. Works perfectly, tested heavily, nice and snug, but not too. Easy upgrade.
The inclusion/exclusion of any one feature wouldn't keep me from buying a camera if it was well spec'd overall. There is always a want list generated by a new model. I really like Sony's design aesthetic. Not bulbous, or with odd design elements for "style." No red triangles in the grip that morph from model to model. A clean, simple, functional device. You want a grip, we'll make one you can add, no problem.
SRHEdD: I have the RX100 and the WX350. I find I can crop the larger sensor to my desired image and get a better result than using the zoom on the WX350 to compose. Just the diff between the 1" and 1/2.3" sensors I guess. You can find the original RX100 for less than either of these now, AND it shoots RAW. That might be better money spent.
I would add, however, that the WX350 is an awesome little camera. I only went looking for a pocket cam with A, S, M on the mode dial, and the RX100 popped up on craigslist for $250 NIB.
I seldom shoot at the long end of that zoom. I have other cameras for that kind of reach. One of these pocket cameras stays with me in my briefcase for note-related photos and general snaps. In MY use, I can often crop the RX100 images to gain a little more reach and get a better result than the WX350 gave me before I had the RX100. The comment wasn't meant to be taken so literally, but as a practical-use comment in my photo taking situations. Your results may vary.
I have the RX100 and the WX350. I find I can crop the larger sensor to my desired image and get a better result than using the zoom on the WX350 to compose. Just the diff between the 1" and 1/2.3" sensors I guess. You can find the original RX100 for less than either of these now, AND it shoots RAW. That might be better money spent.
I sure hope they don't recall my Sony for flakes of dark material in the mirror box, or white spots in my pho... oh wait, that was my old Nikon kit. I'll take my A7ii any day over my old Nikons. Pick at it if you wish, but the entire shooting experience and resulting imagery is just much more pleasing. My friends and family see it, my clients see it. Even the A6000 is an improvement over the D7000 I unloaded when Nikon wouldn't honor its warranties on my kit. Not a Sony fanboy, just a real world user getting better images easier thanks to Sony.
Bought my A7ii mid-January, my SEL2870 was already running the updated version.
Damn near a year in coming, but a POS low-end Canikon gets here in a month. Thanks.
So glad I jumped to Sony.
RanL: A very nice review. Would have been nicer if it said something about the (alleged) flare-blockage / internal reflections / "black bandit" issue that's been so extensively debated on the forums (here and elsewhere) lately. It would have been nice to get a word on this from an authoritative and reliable source.Right now that (possible) issue is the only thing holding me back from ordering this camera (I find myself shooting backlit scenes quite often).
After flakes in my D600 and white spots on my D800, this is no longer an option. Moved to Sony and MUCH happier. I agree there are limited lenses in comparison, but Sony has the lenses I needed.Much happier with my A77ii, A6000, and now my spankin' new A7ii. I'm not going back until Nikon begins to innovate again, and fixes these nagging quality issues.
Serious Sam: Now can we have our 7D2 VS A77ii performance test??
If you used an A77ii for a few days, you'd literally forget it was an EVF. No so on the A6000, but you would on the A77ii. It is that good an EVF. THEN, when you'd NEED it, touching that exposure comp dial and SEEING your adjustment is sublime! Or WB, or manual exposure, or DOF... you just have to let go of your old ways and embrace the technology. In SOME cases it is THAT good.
Tharaphita: It must have been really bad, if they were able to make it 2,5 faster. Lol
The A77ii WAS faster than any Nikon I've had (last two were D610 and D7100), and faster now than any other Canon or Nikon in my local camera store. The first comment is a real use experience based on a sizable jump in usable shots from my sons' football games versus my old Nikons, the in-store comparisons, though not as thoroughly tested, are comparisons with both cameras in-hand. The AF is easily faster on my upgraded A77ii than any Nikon or Canon the store had in stock, though they didn't have any D4-series or EOS1-series cameras. This isn't a noise comparison, the time to focus was faster, and it was more deliberate (less hunt). I can also state from experience that the low light AF is now just like daylight focussing, and easily as fast as my A6000. The A77ii actually seems quicker to lock than the A6000, so NOW I'm hoping for an A6000 AF tweak by firmware.
GREAT JOB SONY!! It is nice to be HAPPY with my camera company again! Keep innovating while the others rest on their laurels.
As an old Nikon guy, after my D600 flaked and D800 had white spots, I jumped ship. This is a great camera, and for a change I actually HAVE a camera that gets a great firmware upgrade! As good as it WAS, it is very noticeably faster now! You get so many creative hardware scenarios with Sony, and they have the lenses I need. Not as many as Canikon to be sure, but very nice lenses in my wheelhouse. The 16-50/2.8 is a great kit zoom, but a little heavy. And having an A6000 as a second kit, using the same flashes, microphones, etc. is very satisfying (I can even share lenses with a LA-EA4!). Even my Sony P/S uses the same basic menus and I can add a mic to its hotshoe on a windy day. That's three different formats/mounts using shared kit. THAT'S how to build a system. Great job Sony! I'm with you for the long haul! ...Now to get that new A7ii to fill out my bag!
Nikon and Oly used to package thin leather-like straps with a sliding rubber pad. Chromed steel buttons and just enough adjustability. Find one at a yard sale or bargain bin, they pack light, go on/off easily, but there's nothing to fail, and are comfortable enough to use all day. Plus, they were MADE to fit those little triangle thingies (technical term) perfectly. Best strap ever.
Next would be the narrower of the two Domke straps will all steel pivoting hardware and a thick canvas, non-slip strap section. Simple IS better.
i don't know about the rest of europe.But it has been available in the netherlands for quiet some time
OoooooH! RED TRIM pieces!! I'm upgrading now!
It was always fun to copy a folder icon and paste it into Bliss with a title like, "Naked pics of boss" and then upload the modified Bliss. People would see it and try to click on it...bwahahahahaha.
Ah, sophomoric humor...
Also, put the shutdown command into "Start up Items" on a Mac... hours of fun!!
Put aside brand and format rivalries for a minute, and realize what this might have potentially been if Nikon had used a m4/3 chip and mount. That's all, just think of where this might have gone, the lens possibilities, the possible combinations of lens and camera, etc.
THAT would have been a breakthrough "enthusiast's" camera.