thx1138: Why on earth would you buy this archaic looking behemoth when you can get a Pentax 645Z also with the same Sony 50MP CMOS sensor, for less than half the price. Camera makes no sense at this price.
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photogeek: The only real solution to this is to legalize (and therefore regulate) prostitution in the state. That way, instead of keeping all of it illegal, we could keep only the truly horrible parts of it illegal, and get the government out of the sex lives of consenting adults aged 18+ (or better yet, 21+, since kids are really stupid at 18). That way, there would be an easy, legal choice for the johns, and sex workers would be protected (and tested for STDs).
Children are special in that they are not legally held 100% accountable for their actions. The law recognises that children aren't necessarily mentally fully-developed, and can make mistakes. The law acknowledges that they are not yet in full control of their lives and accords them fewer responsibilities.
I read your replies above and I don't see your point, if you have one. You meandered around, erecting strawmen and slinging ad hominem accusations at the same. Misogynist, racist, right-winger. Photogeek and I are arguing here for women's rights to do whatever they wish with their bodies. Freedom of choice for all (adults). Your fine accusations are simply inapplicable. The words "not only not right, but not even wrong" come to mind.
All I can do is close my eyes and sigh in silent resignation.
Let's clarify here that we are are in fact referring to adult parties.
Children are an entirely different case. They're special.
Goods and/or services are exchanged for other goods and/or services. Typically this is cold, hard cash. Although cash is inedible and subject to fluctuations in value, it remains the most versatile of assets, accepted anywhere within one's own country by legal mandate.
Many people perform unpleasant, degrading jobs day after day, night after night, exchanging their time for regular reimbursements of cash. Some might even choose prostitution over working graveyard shifts in convenience stores, as these jobs come with comparable safety risks but prostitution can offer better pay.
"prostitution is inherently immoral"
You are free to hold and express your own opinions, but you are not free to present them as facts. You are not an arbiter of truth.
rrccad: okay. so if I'm shooting static scenes. why do I need pixel shifting, since I can usually keep the ISO low, and increase the shutter speed anyways, since you're a) already using tripod (have to for pixel shifting) b) taking images of static scenes.
at least with Olympus - you can see the benefit for product photography, this though outside of reviews .. I'm at a loss to when I'd actually use it and need it.
should be interesting to see all the people in here SCREAMING in mortal agony over the lack of a flash, wifi, articulating screen,etc,etc... especially after all the ranting over the 7DII not having it ;)
Also consider, though, that keeping the big power sinks online produces heat, which in turn creates electrical noise, and from that, increased image noise. Perhaps the main processor and LCD/EVF can be insulated somewhat, but how can you keep excess heat out of the sensor when the sensor itself is the source?
I like OVFs, but this is purely personal preference, and I see real advantages to EVFs as well. Heat accumulation and its effects, however, are not subjective.
You mean introduce a new range of lenses with a new mount and shorter registration distance? A mirrorless K-mount FF won't be smaller than a DSLR, courtesy of physics/optics.
It would indeed be lighter, and simpler to manufacture and repair. However, as I've written here before:
DSLR: Most of the camera's electronics remain in standby most of the time. At those times when you're not actually taking a photo, the only electronics in use are the exposure metering sensor, the AF sensor, and the AF motor.
Include the LCD too if you're browsing photos, or you leave it on by default, but that's the user's choice.
Mirrorless: Everything is live all of the time. In addition to the three listed above---exposure metering, AF sensor, AF motor--- you are also powering the main sensor, image processor, and the LCD/EVF, whichever you use to compose.
Many people will cite greatly reduced battery life as a result of this, but others counter that you can always bring more batteries.
Joachim Gerstl: I'm sure it is a great camera. Loved my X100. I sold it but most likely will replace it with the X100T or its successor because I always wanted a black X100.
I also have a Ricoh GR. I'm with the people that state that the Ricoh is great to shoot and nobody thinks it a serious camera but the Ricoh GR can't replace the Fuji X100 and vice versa. They are completely different cameras and shooting experience is completely different too.
For some the Ricoh GR might be better camera for others the Fuji X100 would be the by far better choice. They really can't be compared but I did for those who don't have the chance to try them out side by side.
Announced on 17th April 2013. Not even two years.
With Ricoh's ongoing firmware refinements, including the addition of new features and functionality, it has only improved since then.
A mini-marvel of a camera. Reasonably priced on day one, and a downright bargain now. Go get one and stop wondering what it'd be like.
Baron Sekiya: Canon has bought sensors from Sony in the past, and possibly present, for their compact cameras. My PowerShot had the recalled Sony sensor and had to be sent in to be fixed.
Canon has had a history of not be consistent across their lense line with quality. I've seen kit lenses what output garbage images with how soft they were and I owned their orginal EF 16-35/2.8L that was terrible. If they're going to put their name on a product it should produce quality images.
As for dSLR bodies Canon doesn't do a good job of listening to the American pro photo market and catering to their needs. They may listen to their own countrymen/women photographers in Japan but they are a go super slow company. I'd like to see mirrorless 7DMkII level dSLRs and higher that can shoot with minimal noise and higher flash sync speeds.
They also need to help with the legislation to get the EU to remove the videocamera tariff so dSLRs can shoot longer than 30 minutes continuous video.
Seems to me the US market is particularly fond of Black Friday-style close-out discounting, even if it means buying models since superseded twice or three times over. Thom Hogan has written extensively on this.
This lovely little quality can become quite malicious. I frequently see people openly hoping a sound, solid product will fail on the market for some reason or another so that the price will crash ever harder and faster.
Perhaps Canon, Ricoh/Pentax, et al. have deemed the US market too scabby to be worth the time and trouble.
Edgar_in_Indy: Hey Tokina! 1987 called, and it wants its lenses back!
Really, could they have made these lenses look any more cheap and generic? If the lenses turn out to be great performers (which would not surprise me), then the horribly dated looks will be even more unfortunate!
Heh, if they underperform Edgar will act smug, deriding both their optics and their cosmetic appearance.
But if they're perfectly capable lenses, "horribly dated looks will be even more unfortunate!"
Edgar has positioned himself to gloat either way. He has devised a game he literally can not lose.
Wonder if anyone else will play with him.
Mssimo: In a very successful attempt to match the sensor to the looks of the camera they are now using canons 20MP APSC sensor.
If you must attempt to troll, at least be coherent. This nonsense doesn't pass muster.
I.e. Get off my Internet.
escobar: I like Pentax, but please we need to get over this myth that somehow there are these millions of excellent old K mount lenses out there that are available and cheap. Unless you're looking for a 50mm f/1.8 , most of the desirable stuff on eBay gets bid up to ridiculous amounts . And the announcement of a Pentax FF ain't gunna help.
I bought a fantastic FA 100mm f/2.8 macro for something like US$240.
Digital Imaging Technician: The concept model looks like a simple 3D print (look at the striped pattern in the body). Is that all they're going to show?
They could withhold the WIP mockup altogether and just put out a sign saying: FULL FRAME CONFIRMED AND COMING SOON
When dealing with their "serious" products, Pentax have a reputation for making elegant, utilitarian designs. ("Serious" means the 645 and flagship APS-C bodies, not the K-01, K-S1, etc.) And this is a forte of Ricoh's as well: see the various iterations of the GR, including the early film models. They are not stunning cameras: they are understated, nuanced examples of industrial design. And they are beautiful.
The coming Pentax FF will follow suit. Like the K-7/5 and K-3 bodies, it will have edges to distinguish it from the amorphous blobs favoured by Canon. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if its design pays homage to the legacy of the venerable Pentax 67 system.
straylightrun: How can Samsung have seemingly unlimited resources but still not have a rangefinder-style body with integrated EVF (like a6000, X-E2 and GX7)?
When you say a "rangefinder-style body," you really just mean a box, don't you? Like most compact cameras? (Sigma's Quattro line notwithstanding)
Prairie Pal: At least Pentax has a road map, honors it, and is transparent enough to disclose it to their loyal customer base. ...Nikon!
gskolenda, who do you think will come out on top?
While many people love Sony's innovations in mirrorless cameras, financially, Sony as a whole is in pretty deep poop. Panasonic is in the same situation. Olympus seems to be keeping its head above water, but it is sustained by its endoscope development, not by cameras. I don't know about Fuji's situation.
More info here: http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/panic-is-setting-in.html
Samsung, on the other hand, is a rampaging powerhouse of a corporation. Is Samsung the future of photography?
fmian: Extremely risky move dropping tech budget into this.The market already has very dominant players in it.Pentax should be trying to carve a new niche instead of trying to squeeze in between the competition.
I know their sole offering is a niche one (and what an understatement!), but Sigma is still a manufacturer of true DSLRs.
There are also the medium format vendors, including Hasselblad, Leica (S system), Phase One-Leaf-Mamiya, and of course Pentax themselves.
Why yes, I am pedantic.
tkbslc, I understand where you're coming from, but I regard that strategy as a form of security through obscurity, which as a concept is an utter failure.
Seems Ricoh is either supremely confident in their upcoming offerings, or they figure they have nothing to lose in being open. And I doubt it's the latter.
Were there any detrimental effects at all resulting from their preview of the unfinished (and at-the-time unnamed) 645Z? I can't think of any, but perhaps I missed something.
I admire this kind of marketing. No BS. Just results to date, and promises of great things to come.
MayaTlab0: Too late. The future is with shorter flange distance mounts, Pentax K's mount is too inflexible to be successfully adapted to various designs. In addition Pentax's FF lenses lineup may have tons of references, but most of them are old and optically challenged. And new APSC lenses, like the 20-40, aren't particularly brilliant, and are suffering from QC issues.
Despite having some excellent points Pentax' APSC DSRLs have never been particularly successful. Now Pentax is going to do the same, but against FF DSLRs competitors. I'm not sure the result is going to be any different.
"The future is with shorter flange distance mounts"
justmeMN: Hmmm. The camera is for the "young selfie crowd", but is designed to look like an old-fashioned rangefinder camera.
A rangefinder-aspirant with a faux prism? Doesn't add up.