freediverx: Why does Canon always have to take a few steps back with every step forward?
In order to incorporate a pop-up flash (which wasn't on anyone's short list of must-have features) they've removed one of the mechanical dials at the top of the camera, eliminating the ability to change the ISO setting on the fly without digging into the menus.
So essentially they've sacrificed one of the G-series' coolest "pro" features in exchange for a useless one. More likely, this was a cost-reduction decision, which is especially irksome considering the fat price increase.
With an ISO dial, if the camera is off or even just a quick glance, you know what the ISO is set at all times. It was a nice feature.
F2 or GTFO
historianx: As the owner of a GF2, mostly because I was not willing to pay the inflated prices for a dated GF1, I am happy to see this camera for one simple reason: the ability to disable the touch screen interface. The only way this can be done on the GF2 is by either turning the camera off or attaching the LVF1 EV. Although the GF2, coupled with the 20mm pancake, takes outstanding RAW captures, I found it frustrating when leaving the camera on sleep mode and hanging off my neck, to have the TSI bumping into my chest and activating the touch focus and shutter functions, taking pictures without my knowing so and generally being a HUGE hassle. I really hope that Panasonic includes this option to disable the TSI in a future firmware update, because it is the only real albatross in an otherwise fine camera (the absence of a mode dial I can live without).
Has anyone heard of a updated release date for the GX-1? They really dropped the ball by not having it ready for Xmas release.
I have the GF2. You can disable the touch screen shutter release button as well as the aperture slider control so it does not appear on the screen. I can confirm this because that's how I have mine set up. The only touch command I have is touch focus, which is extremely handy.
Baba Ganoush: If the optional EVF is used, won't that affect the capture of sound in video mode? It appears to me that the EVF covers up the stereo microphone, which is located directly in front of the hotshoe.
I would assume in video mode, one would use the LCD, and not shoot video looking thru a peephole. Just an assumption.
ionosphere: Jesus Christ, can't any of you people be happy?
When Panasonic released the GF2, everyone complained about touchscreeen and no external controls, or no EVF. Panasonic releases the G3, with an EVF, everyone whines. Panasonic releases the GX1, with external controls, more whining.
I for one, am very happy with this development, except for the lofty price. I have a GF2, and all I would really like is a better high ISO noise characteristics, a mode dial, and a built in flash that doesn't cast a shadow across the kit lens.
The GX1 gives me a lot of that.
I don't understand this "push the boundaries" nonsense. All those 'pushing the boundary' features we get are nice and cute, but when it comes down to it, lenses and usability matter the most.
I don't care if Sony manages to cram God's left eye into half a kit kat. I won't buy a Nex so long as their lenses are poop.
Mike Beller: I think I represent the classic target market - I only want one camera but I'm frustrated by the quality and low light performance of compacts. I'm currently using a Panasonic super zoom DMC-FZ35 and would like to upgrade to something with faster focus and better low light performance. I don't use too many manual adjustments and I don't use extra lenses, flash or VF accessories, etc.
The GX1 looks great (especially with the G X VARIO PZ 14-42mm/F3.5-5.6 lens but I'd probably want a longer zoom) but I don't really need manual adjustments/hot shoe/etc. I'm thinking the GF3 with the G VARIO HD 14-140mm/F4.0-5.8 lens could be a good all around replacement. I'm also considering the direct upgrade path to the DMC-FZ150K which would be much less expensive. Does the GF3 outperform the FZ150K?
GX1? GF3? FZ150K? Any recommendations? Considerations?
GF2 has a hot shoe. GX1 has a much better sensor than the GF3.
Clickie McPete: You lost me at touch screen interface. Touch screens are fine on a cell phone but not on a real camera. Loved the GF-1 but why can't they go the old school route and give us manual and mechanical controls? Fuji X10 will be my new digital toy this fall.
I have a GF2, the only 2 touch screen commands I use are, setting a focus point and mode change. Setting a focus point with your finger is an advantage. All settings can still be accessed thru the 4 way directional buttons even mode changing. But, it is nice the GX1 has the mode dial back.
M Aryan: Am I right? Is this camera competing against Sony NEX-5N with about same size and megapixel senor BUT has:1. APS-C size sensor (micro 4/3 for GX1)2. ISO range of 100-25600 (160-12800 for GX1) with really low noise and very good detail on ISO 1600 and above3. Tilt touch LCD (Fix On GX1)4. 920,000 Pix True black or whatever (460,000 on GX1)5. 1080 60p (1080 60i on GX1)6. Build in EyeFi Compatibility (No on GX1)7. 12 m build in flash range (7.6 m on GX1)8. 10 fps full resolution continuous shooting (4.2 fps on GX1)9. Optional OLED EVF with 2.4 megapixel (1.4 Megapixel LCD on GX1)and in defense:1. Hot shoe external flash (some sort of accessory flash on NEX-5N)2. 60 sec Maximum shutter speed (30 on NEX-5N)3. And damn cool and useful pancake(compact) 14-42 mm X series (No on E mount Sony “it is so blamable”)with “SAME PRICE”?In my opinion: with huge disadvantages and few not so important advantages (except one) again at same price, “not acceptable!”
panny has a better lens lineup then sony
Mtsuoka: This should be the GF2.
Zvonimir Tosic: Can someone please explain Panny's lineup of m4/3 cameras and what's presumably Panny's aim to create in customer's mind — I mean, what's the real difference between the GX1 and GF3, GF2 or GF1? Or, are they doing just the same thing Nikon and Canon are doing in DSLR market with their APS-C cameras — build all the differences around confusing names, like 5100, 3100, 5000 — all of which in reality mean absolutely nothing because they don't even hold up in the market long enough to get into customer's mind and represent a certain value.
After the GF2 Panny decided to split the GF line into consumer and prosumer. GF3 is a consumer cam. GX1 prosumer.