Recall when everybody was pleading with Nokia to release their great phone hardware ... in Android?
daddyo: Sorry Nikon, but this seems like a bad joke. If you compare image quality between this and the Olympus E-M10, it's not even close. The E-M10 with 14-42mm lens goes for $799 right now, and includes a built-in EVF.What am I missing here?
@LGJim"most of us enthusiasts shoot action only occasionally, so we will never see the "value" of the V3"I'd have thought candid pictures of our children at play is equally demanding of a camera's speed, and a subject close to the hearts of any photographer with children. There are so many 'nearly' shots in my collection, nearly in focus. Or else they are more static or posed. But true 'action' shots of the children, very difficult.
zettlers: This one is not for me so I hate it and expect everyone else to do the same!
"This is supossed to be an "enthusiast" camera. Meaning RAW. "
Maybe it is a camera for people who like to take and show pictures.
I'd bet that if you took 100 pictures, randomly assigned 50% to be taken as RAW, the other 50% to be taken as in-camera jpeg, then printed them all out and asked people to choose their favourites, that you would find zero correlation to RAW/jpeg.
It is the picture that matters to most people, get over the measurebating.
What I really don't get, however, is your logic. You dictate which people this camera is for, despite knowing features which you suppose won't appeal to those very people, on which basis you declare that they won't actually want the camera. Circular genius.
"alone that it use MICRO SD cards shows that the engineers have not the user in mind"You really do have to be quite arrogant to make comments like that. I'm quite confident that the engineers thought through every aspect of the camera. Clearly you, in 2 seconds, are able to outsmart them and come up with better solutions. The shame of it is that your talent is wasted.Did you consider that many users might never even remove the microSD card from the camera?"only morons would buy this" - more arrogance.
martinj68: Can someone please explain why we need QHD displays on a phone screen?My Galaxy S5 has full 1080 and impossible to see the pixels with the naked eye, so why are manufactures wanting to go beyond this already high res for such a small screen?
Would be nice if someone of DPR's standing could do a proper "blind" trial of phone screens, something I have yet to see on any of the "advertorial" review sites."Blind" is perhaps an unfortunate description in this case, but I mean that in a comparative review of several competing screens the reviewers (plural) must have no way to know which screen is being looked at, not even whether it is the same screen or a different one, over a course of multiple viewings.
Please DPR, nobody else has ever done this.
wetsleet: I'm constantly amused by so many armchair experts pontificating to whichever manufacturer how to fix their cameras and pricing to make them sell, and then just carry on with their mantra regardless when, guess what, the camera sells as-is, due - but of course - to a gullible public who sadly lack the archair experts' expertise and tragically don't realise that they should be buying a different camera at a different price.
You're kidding, right? Because Western camera makers exploit their unique understanding of the customer to rampant success in world markets? Home markets? Any markets?
I'm constantly amused by so many armchair experts pontificating to whichever manufacturer how to fix their cameras and pricing to make them sell, and then just carry on with their mantra regardless when, guess what, the camera sells as-is, due - but of course - to a gullible public who sadly lack the archair experts' expertise and tragically don't realise that they should be buying a different camera at a different price.
Kodachrome200: I think they are just shocked people actually want to buy this. I sure was
but in fact you bought.... neither? (I'm guessing)
forpetessake: How is Sigma's "try before you buy" any better than buy and return for full refund if not satisfied most vendors offer? In fact it's worse, Sigma offers just one week, while most vendors allow 30 days of use.
I bought the wrong item by mistake from Argos (UK). I returned it a few hours later in the still unopened, factory-sealed box. Argos broke the manufacturer seal and opened the box to check the contents. Kudos to Argos for checking (years ago I bought a car stereo from them, and found a customer's old unit in the new box!). But I did wonder what they do with it now that it has become "second hand".(PS if they would put the manufaturer model number in their product description I'd not have made my mistake)
sneakyracer: I for one find the D810 does a better job to to attract even more Canon users to switch over to Nikon than even the D800/E did. The refinements and add-ons make the D810 a much more complete camera. The improvements in Live View performance and the shutter alone make it a worthwhile upgrade to landscape shooters. Great job Nikon (pending thorough testing of course ;) )
Why do you say the lens must be better than the sensor/film? One or other must be the limiting factor - but why does it matter which?
AdamT: They remove a very expensive item (the AA filter) and keep the price at D800E levels - Rather like Audi Charging extra to have an option of No power steering in the R8 - LOL !!! ...... Crafty buggers are Nikon .
What this does mean is cheap D800s on the used market - now that IS a good thing
In pure economic terms, sale price and cost of production are not related. Firms sell at whatever price they can make in the market. But in so far as that market price is influenced by customers' expectations, and nobody likes to feel ripped off, there may be some drag on the price due to customers' understanding of the costs. But I'd guess that is a very limited effect.
Sonyshine: Why would you buy one? It's only designed to make you keep shopping at Amazon. Surely that is not chat any sane person desires?
somebody decribed it as a mobile cash register for Amazon, which I thought was a crisp summary
grasscatcher: Do the cameras/tilt perspective/3D, etc. work if you are wearing sunglasses? Or polarized sunglasses?
Also, my wife gets nauseous from 3D, so it may not be for her.
"my wife gets nauseous from 3D, so it may not be for her"Good job this phone isn't 3D then ;)But then there are no actual 3D systems out there that I know of, only stereoscopic, which may well make a person nauseous since the eye is hunting for a depth of field which isn't actually there.Good job this phone isn't stereoscopic either then ;)
chiane: Why are we saddled with an industry full of point and shoot sensors and marginal image quality, or we have to buy like a $2000 dslr housing? There's not much in the middle between pro and soccer mom.
Don't Nikon do a waterproof mirrorless camera?
Bram de Mooij: I will not buy a Leica because I cannot afford it. However, making Leica ridiculous because of one person's mistake is pathetic.
One advice for dpreview. No unboxing, no first impressions, no first shooting experiences. Only real reviews please. That will do.
"The previews and first impressions articles are usually written based on handling pre-production units..."Sure, but that didn't happen here. For DPR to have descended to the level of YouTube style "unboxings", I just shudder.But I guess, maybe, in this case, it is appropriate. That is mainly what this camera is about, the 'experience', the touch, feel and fondle of the thing. The whole emotion of taking it out of the box - why else such an elaborate and over worked box - is probably a large part of the joy of owning one. But then, it is still on the wrong web site...
Boky: Have they managed to fix the oil issue with D610 release?
"I heard one photographer mention that he has heard of the same oil problems on the d610. Not sure what his source was, but I checked over at Amazon and found at least a half dozen reviews saying the oil issue was still happening in the d610."
Any of them bona-fide 1st hand accounts, or just more of "I heard of a guy who mentioned that he had heard of..."
eyedo: I had to sell my Nikon D600 for a big loss last year,pre announcement.
I hated everything about that camera,Especially the 20 giant oil splotches on 1200 images I had to retouch after a big client shoot.
I switched brands after that and I'm not looking back.
I'm assuming that is actual cash spent on warranty and replacement costs. I suspect the cost in goodwill/brand value will be greater, for reasons such as yours.
Had they committed the exact same sum up-front and handled the situation with honesty and aplomb, they might even have receouped the cash cost in increased goodwill and brand value.
Marksphoto: If sigma is going to start making better lenses than brand names will, will have to risk incompatibility issues in the future as Canon likes to play the incompatibility games as I have already learned first hand.
Sure buy this lens for today, but no guarantees it will work on the 5d mk4 or 5.
I'll stick to Brand name lenses myself, the 50mm 1.8 is light weight, tack sharp and cheap, If I need more light I will bump ISO up marginally - not that I ever use 50mm lenses - just thinking outloud...
re: the incompatibility gamesThe Brands (as you refer to them, but I guess Sigma is a brand too?) will find their reputation in tatters if their lenses are seen to rely less on their outright quality and more on "incompatibility" protectionism to earn their keep.Maybe even (long shot) the EU or similar will weigh in and force the camera brands to publish their interfaces, a bit like Windows (I think?) is obliged to, so that all parties can play in the park.
Great photos. Regarding focus technique (eg pic 6 notes) - are you trying to get the bubble in focus, or focus on the image reflected in the bubble. They must be at two different focus distances, a bit like focussing on a mirror's surface (see the dust and fingerprints, etc) or the image reflected in the mirror?EDIT - actually, I've just had a look at where the virtual image falls, inside the bubble at half the radius I think, so little difference in focus distance?
Ednaz: As someone who's tried to get sea spray off of a multi-coated filter, taking countless lens tissues and eclipse fluid...
...and who's had to try to clean elephant snot (or whatever it is that comes out of an elephant's nose) when it snorts a foot or two from your ultra-wide angle lens, depositing disgusting slime on the front element of a 17-35mm zoom...
I here and now demand that Nikon create a retrofitting service so I can replace the front element of the half-dozen lenses that I use the most.
I shoot a lot in bad weather, worry about the image first and gear last, and swore off UV filters long ago other than when I know I'm going to be in a lens coating risky situation, like shooting in the surf. Whatever fluorine coating adds to the cost of the lens, I'll sign up for, because it would give me back hours of time every year.
I have a friend whose 2 year old recoated one of his lenses with crayons and Sharpie marker who'd probably sign up for the coating too.
Elephant sneezing snot all over it - now that would have spiced up the video a bit!