Photato: Any information if these new phones save Raw images?I suspect they do.I really like that these two Nexus support a huge range of radio bands and frecuencies allowing you to easily move among carriers. The timely Android updates and free of carrier app bloatware is the cherry on the cake.If the 5X had mSD reader and swappable baterry it would be my perfect phone.However because they have a sealed body that can not swap battery nor insert an SD card I might as well get the new iPhones.
Yeah, that is what i think but i wouldnt be surprised if they wont.I also suspect that both are using the same Sony sensor that was on the LG 3 and many other phones.But i hope is a new one.
Any information if these new phones save Raw images?I suspect they do.I really like that these two Nexus support a huge range of radio bands and frecuencies allowing you to easily move among carriers. The timely Android updates and free of carrier app bloatware is the cherry on the cake.If the 5X had mSD reader and swappable baterry it would be my perfect phone.However because they have a sealed body that can not swap battery nor insert an SD card I might as well get the new iPhones.
I am glad the panel talked about the importance of supporting gear not just the Camera and Lenses. Lighting is huge.Was surprised that nobody mentioned the trickling UP of technology from Smartphones to Professional cameras. Most of the new technology from the latest Sony Cameras actually comes from sensor developed first for Smartphones.A topic I wanted to hear though is how Content is King and gear or technique doesn't really matter much.Youtube is a testament of horrible quality videos hitting millions views or Pictures taken with any phone gone viral.
dash2k8: The problem with all these new lightweight drones is just that, their weight. The lighter they are, the more they are buffeted by winds. Products such as this will not do well in windy cities like San Francisco or Chicago except on the calmest of days. I'm sure there's a market for these simple-to-fly drones and I have nothing against that. I just hope buyers will understand the limitations of their new buy.
dash2k8, please let me know if you could find an insurance that covers Drones.The Drone websites are full of crashing stories.Phantom legs have open cavities that gather wind force just like a parachute.The Phantom manual clearly state not fly under winds faster than 22mph.
Photato: DxO took 4 months to review the LG G4 despite being the most Photo friendly phone currently and almost a year for the Note 4 !I bet all my photo gear that it will take them less than 14 days to show results for the new iPhone 6S.Timing is an important factor for objectiveness not just the numbers.
DxO can place the iPhone wherever they want. I have both iOS and Android so i dont really care. DxO though has an iPhone accesorie to sell so they will play their best interest since their business is to sell harware and software not Reviews.They managed to keep the iPhone 6 at the top for almost a year by not releasing the Samsung N4 scores.
Also, the heavier they are the harder they crash.And crashing a drone is not a matter of IF but WHEN.
If is too windy you wouldn't be flying any drone.Vantage Robotics could make an optional larger/heavier battery if weight is needed.I can also argue that the Snap's slim profile (no landing gear) makes it less susceptible to winds.
Pierre Louis: At that price, who would go for this vs a Phantom 3?
Wrong, the Snap uses the same 1/2.3" Sony sensor as the P3.Also the a 24mm lens gives you more reach and less distortion than the P3 but it might be at the cost of shake blur. So that needs yet to be compared.The P3 is better at operating range but that can be offset by using Waypoints which I believe the Snap will do too.The Snap has a flatter profile (no landing gear) so it should help when windy.From the Specs though the Snap looks very competitive against the P3.
Really interesting design, it makes the Phantom 3 looks antique.Love the fact that is harder to break when crashing which is a harsh reality with drones and the portability makes them discreet when deploying.Also like the fact that the camera is 24mm eqv which produces more natural perspective than the 20mm eqv of Phantom 3. Less distortion.The image sensor is the same as the P3 so if the Snap manage to match the P3 in stability then this is a winner.It has no landing legs so Camera can get dirty fast if landing on other than hand but seems a good compromise for less weight and air drag.However a serious issue here is the timing to market. Spring 2016 looks so far and I wonder what DJI and others would have on the market by then.
The timing on the G4 scores release...I wonder now if they were waiting to have a production iPhone to write the G4 numbers accordingly.If they want to be taken seriously as an objective source of information they need to issue those scores in a timely fashion.I am not accusing them of anything just raising questions.
DxO took 4 months to review the LG G4 despite being the most Photo friendly phone currently and almost a year for the Note 4 !I bet all my photo gear that it will take them less than 14 days to show results for the new iPhone 6S.Timing is an important factor for objectiveness not just the numbers.
Sony is just doing what they have learnt with camera sensors.Give them pixels and they will come.But i wonder if they care about the brand reputation long term by using these cheap snake oil salesman tactics.It looks disenginuos to say the least.
Sony Rocks !
steve_hoge: Hmm, no IBIS, stabilized lenses or slo-mo - they're relying solely on the servo mount for stabilization? I guess if you're shooting 4K you've got a lot of frame real estate to work with if you want to stabilize in post.
It comes with an anti-vibration bracket and the lenses it uses are superwide so the stabilization doesn't have to be perfect but it does the job. In the unlikely scenario that you could mount a Normal or Tele lense you would get a blurry mess, even if the lens has OIS. Also the drone can't lift that much weight besides other issues of weight balance.
RRJackson: Why do these companies keep delivering 8-bit 4:2:0 codecs? Is there no market for a camera with a robust codec?
The good stuff is strictly reserved for the much profitable Pro market. The mass market is oblivious to those things so Manufacturers can get away with selling gear without it. Oh but the consumer do understand pixels as in resolution so we have ended up with bloated 4K cameras of poor quality. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years they will start pitching 8K video for phones. lolAt least now we can indirectly get good quality 1080P 4:2:2 by down-sampling 4K video,however the 10bit depth and decent bit-rates are missing.
RedFox88: $3000 for just 12MP? Welcome to 2005, sony!
I think RedFox was being sarcastic.Funny !
Photato: I wish Sony or somebody else takes notice that there is nothing similar for APS-C.There is no substitute for Big Pixels as this product clearly demonstrate.An APS-C 8MP camera would be a thing of beauty. Lean, fast and mean.I want it for Video, fast still shots and manageable Raw files.For the rest that crave more and more pixels the market have plenty of that already including Phones and P&S.
Hey Samsung ! Wanna make a splash?This is what you need to do.
@ Androole. Yes I saw that but the A7R II is a newer camera.Still the A7S comes on top in the "Sport" category and the A7SII would be even better.Besides is not just about ISO but also Readout implications such High Frame rate Video, less Jello artifact, faster and deeper burst rates for the same buffer, smaller Raw files, less vignetting due to angle of incidence, etc, etc.
Photato: This camera is a breath of fresh air among the countless parade of High Resolution driven cameras.The only one missing now is B&W and I predict it is going to happen soon as the market matures since Bayer sensor is not a real substitute.The trend would be towards 3 Specialized bodies, just like Film
- Low ISO Hi-Rez- High ISO Lo-Rez- B&W
Ultimately Pros and Enthusiast will own those 3 as prices come down just like having different lenses.
Why are folks talking about RGBW on this thread?. lol I was talking about B&W, a totally different thing.RGBW is not new, Kodak made those ages ago and I guess it never stuck because there were color accuracy issues.Apple RGBW was just a rumor and is really inconsequential.
@Euler, Well considering that Sony, Nikon and Canon have no problem selling APS-C cameras with just 1080P video. 2K would be more than welcomed and they can leave 4k for the Pro cameras.2K Video is a lot of data and more than enough for advanced enthusiast use.@007peter Yes 8MP can be "low" for certain things but that is the whole point. For High Resolution shots I would have another APS-C but with 24MP.But to be honest after going thru many Digital Cameras from 2001, 8MP is enough for me for 95% of shots I do.I even earned some money back in the day doing head shots with a Canon Powershot G5 at 5MP and the shots needed to be sized down for the web and print. hello !The secret was not the 5MP but the lighting done well.
@ ottoYes, but the difference is not as clear as in the Sony A7 line, where sensors are different enough to complement.Another point is that you need to be able to switch bodies seamlessly by having the bodies with same layout and similar menu structure.I don't think Canon, Nikon et al were thinking along those lines.B&W is niche but given that nobody is doing it except for Leica, a B&W option would bring depth and cool to their system even if people dont buy it but is there if they need it.