i'm seriously interested in ... a 16-35 f1.8 for FF. :)
with HD on lenses, does it mean the next gen camera will have killer quality on video? :)
all have the same filter thread size. nice!
hum, is there underwater white balance on the cam?
ysengrain: An real omission !! DxO forgot the incredible EF 135 L f2 which is a kind of razor concerning sharpness
DxO to me seems to be the new kid on the block with promises and hypes.
i hope, in time, they will be more thoughtful and comprehensive on their test and learn to produce mature and realistic results.
digby dart: This is a very successful camera review, it has generated a lot of interest and discussion, nearly 400 comments and the x-e1 is topping the camera scale at almost 10% of clicks in reviews and specs over the last five days.
Well done dpreview.
ps. Reuters ran a story recently showing a senior Western Politician explaining how our western systems cherish the inalienable right of the individual to be an idiot - I see many are testing that freedom in the comments below.
err... who voted u to be here?
welcome and fool on. :)
Imagician: When one compares the RAW files from the XE-1 with those of a class act like the Pentax K-5 IIs, one cannot help wondering why low ISO detail rendition is so much of out of favor these days. The Fuji's look like mush, at pixel peeping level, at ISO 200.
I use the Nikon D5100, and I see nothing, from a technology point of view, that would prompt one to switch systems.
Yea, i might need a "vision correction" to see the admired quality the reviewers are suggesting.
Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing Fuji. I still have their 4x5 lenses and shooting my remaining 4x5 fujifilms.
It seems to me the cam has a heavy handed Noise Red, hence, the mushy. It reminds me of the quality from the 1st couple gen Canon's DSLR. see their compared shot. http://g1.img-dpreview.com/DC13292B6328418B8F09FCE01AECB8FB.jpg
Overall, the image quality isn't something to brag for today's APS size camera.
hum... iPhone5 has a pretty nice prime lens and it is a joy to shoot with. will this site rate it the best compact? :)
yabokkie: you have to trade off peripheral image quality for lightweightwhich always comes at a cost.
cool vid. thx!
when it shows the the nikon and sony compared shots, seems liked the sony has something built-in to remove the gaussian blur and the purple fringing.
any second thoughts?
macjonny1: Wow trounced by the Sigma 35mm?!?!?
u r right about dxo's result being (too) simplistic to be a realistic reference. several zeiss have slight weakiness in center sharpness but beat sigma hands down on corners. does dxo give zeiss a better overall score? nope.
i am not saying dxo measure has no basic; it is objective and repeatable. but, there are measurable attributes that are important to the image (the entire frame) through the lense and dxo is missing these ago old attributes.
i wish dxo can do better and we not use it for now until it is a better reference.
marike6: IQ looks fantastic. And if you go by DxOMark, the D5200 is using quite possibly the best performing crop sensor in the world right now. Who knew that Toshiba was so skilled as manufacturing sensors?
One thing is odd is when you switch to the K-5IIs in the Studio Test, it almost looks like ACR Chroma NR was left on, as at ISO 6400 it's dramatically cleaner than the D5200. Yet, on DxOMark the D5200 manages 1284 ISO score to the K-5IIs's 1208 ISO Low-Light (Sports) Score.
Anyway, wonderful IQ, and since I'm in need of a small DX body for my new 70-200 f4 VR, this camera definitely on my short list. Thanks guys.
starting at ISO 800 RAW I start to see noticeable better IQ from Pentax K-30. the smaller Mpix seems to handle the noise and retain the detail surprisingly better than d5200.
BBGunWB: Very interesting that this one didn't make it - http://ukcamerageek.com/blog/general/shocking-image-shows-tank-shell-hitting-rebel-outpost-in-syria/
Thanks Lars Rehm! It is a solid review on a solid cam. For still, it is a class leading cam in many areas.
The review is right on the money about the video that it may be a bit behind the peer on connectors, only wish Pentax hadn't sell themselves short on them ...
i am impress with the effort. could there be some common thing found as part of daily life to give perspective?
zos xavius: I just spent a lot of time comparing raw from the k-5, d7000 and k-30. If you look at the 3200 raws, yes they do look slightly more cooked than the k-5, but at the same time they retain much more detail. The paper clips are a really good example. Throw up the omd for comparison and the results are astounding to me. It is almost nearly as good as the best aps-c sensors out there. The k-30's jpeg engine also looks much improved at higher isos. It now looks comparable to the d7000 in terms of detail retention. For fun throw up the rebel 4ti @ 3200 and have a good laugh. I'm an admitted pentax fanboy, but canon sensors are really behind the times IMO. Even the d800 trounces the 5dmk3 except maybe at extreme isos. My point is that I was going to finally buy a k-5 now that they are on firesale and since I love my k-7 so dearly, it seemed like the perfect upgrade but now I'm having 2nd thoughts. My point is that if you are looking for ultimate iq at high iso, this camera really delivers!
@zos, i hear u. well the k-30 has focus peaking. i hope we r referring the same fp.
i've found a slight different focusing approach with live view. there is a way the focusing point would follow a subject across the lcd. t is fun to watch the focusing point follow the cat on live view. (i got you baby, i got you).
what i find missing is the sensor to turn off lcd when i peak thur the view finder. about the top led, an articulated screen would be a lovely addition.
Thank you DP review for this interesting result.
the DR on K-30 is interesting. it is interesting to see how "Highlight On" has a range from 5 to 32 and "Highlight On-Shadow High" has a range from 6 to 32 but when doing doing Shadow High alone it has a range from 8 to 34.
From a day-to-day usage prespective, it would make sense to keep the setting at Highlight On - Shadow High for all day. When the sence is outdoor during a bright lit day, turn off the Shadow High to get more detail from the high lightWhen the sence is outdoor pass sunset, turn off Highlight On to gain any shadow detail.
Has anyone try this approach?
Simon97: Good detail retention at high ISO without being too noisy. Probably as good as it gets at this price point.
I still think Pentax needs a more entry level model like Canon, Nikon and Sony. One can purchase a kit for $500 these days at any department store. The entry model is a gateway into a system for many folks.
hum... how many would buy their lens whom buy a $400 cam? don't get me wrong, their lenses are very good to excellent, except the price... :(
thank you dpReview for the samples.
from my monitor, the iq of k-30 is seriously closed to the FF from the big two, at fraction of the price.
this might changing my mind on waiting on the 800d.
great review on the little ... Hummer. :) Thank you, folks.
Sirluke: In the "Noise and Noise reduction" page I've put on the Pentax K-5 (or the Nikon D7000) to see how they compared in raw and I was very surprised to see them in line with the full-frame big brothers or even beating them (K-5).Is there really the need to carry huge, heavy and expensive equipment to make great photos today? I don't think so!
k5 is a fine camera and I like look of the out of cam jpeg from it. the af speed from k5 is hard to compete w/ 5dm3. it is like on caffeine. :)
this is simply one of the best review. good job, folks.
and i just love the clever humor liked "(but sadly it doesn't spell out '3D' in the viewfinder in real life...)"