nevada5: Gold or silver, tin or cow patty - why would this matter? I've never walked around with my camera, feeling better that a reviewer called it gold.
I've had my GX7 for about 5 weeks and it continues to please me more each time I use it. The level of customization available is fantastic, ergonomics and build quality are top-drawer, EVF and IQ are on a par with my NEX-6. The icing on the cake is that the menus make sense to me.
The review seems to be a fair one. (But I must have the only GX7 ever made that consistently UNDER-exposes. Hmmmm)
I suspect anyone who prefers a rangefinder-style camera will find little to fault with the GX7.
Jorginho: I wonder: will the 14 mm f2.5 tip it over? Will the 20 mm do that? I am not being sarcastic, but that seems unlikely.
I find the first impressions rather negative. So you need to compare it with the Q and the RX100II but in the end you seem to compare it with DSLRs or so. Tiny cams have tiny controls and few controls in general. That is to be expected. If you do not wan that, get the GF6 or GX7. Etc. But the comment than is: not really pocketable Etc. A last sentence with: "but it is an engeneering succes" or somehting similar does not make up for the negativity. Of course small cams of this size mean large hands will almost surely have trouble..It is a bit like knowing there is a large sensor in it and ten be disaapointed that it does not offer a 24-100 mm f2.0 lens of that size. like the lX7 or something similar.
I concur, as is states in the preview: ...but we don't want to sound negative, I think they are never-the-less - it's like they are, and saying their not, eh? If I did not have problems with my aged eyes, I'd buy it, I like the 24mm WA and often borrow my partners FX37 for interior shots and its (GM1) compactness, of course its not the GX7/OMD! *sigh*. Much as I dislike some of the cameras available (hideous colours/designs etc.) at least the manufacturers are bold, stretching the envelope, and that is a really good thing.
KariIceland: Marc newson is a terrible designer and is known for the worst camera design in human history, marc you should be FIRED, and apple designing a camera? God help us all.
Are Zvonimir and DPR are just being provocative? The mocking of Hasselblad, then this and the vitriol about whether cameraphones should be in the DPConnect site, etc. would imply a loss of focus (geddit?) about what DPR does. It seems to me brands are being usurped by stupidity also, IMHO. Yeah, I am traditionalist, but sometimes I just sigh and throw my hands up and watch another legend loose its way.
kgreggain: Why the F is dpreview reviewing phones? The phone has a camera but is not a camera, it's a phone.
Stop the insanity.
Aw, come on, we should embrace this, along with reviews on webcams, anything from Fisher Price and VTech, ooh what about oil & canvas too? Too much? Sorry, my bad :-)
WACONimages: Come on DPreview! For every photo challenging a newbie smart-phone can be used! Are you gonna post that as news every-time?!?!?
I'm a experienced full-time event/concert/press photographer. So next time I take some nice pics at a gig with a new smartphone you will post this on your front-page?
I'm a gadget freak to quiet a bit myself. But I'm getting real tired about the smartphone hype. Use that time maybe to post more! lens reviews and camera reviews as well. Just saying.
It is getting wearisome, this banging on about mobile phones and their cameras. I got a free upgrade to a Xperia Z, my Lumix LX2 is better. The Xperia is on eBay - as a phone? Dreadful! So many HW/SW problems, I gave up. Friends have Galaxy's which routinely lock up and require SW updates, re-boots etc., etc. So I too can have a 41mpx camera with a shoddy phone attached? yay, with a small y... Notably these reviews fail to mention the usefulness as what the item is meant to do, make calls. BTW: the pictures, what is so special? Sorry to whinge, but DPR need feedback, and reluctantly, this is mine.
Menneisyys: Cool, there are 20mm equiv shots there too; for example, http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/2656086/p1000361?inalbum=panasonic-lumix-dmc-fz70-sample-gallery
EDIT: also this:
re: 3rd para, agree, also only doing 2 high ISO photos and the rest base ISO, maybe less quantity and more diversity in ISO would be more helpful. 2/39 = <5% is not that representative, or is there some other rationale at DPR?
Mikhail Tal: I'm thrilled that my request for DPR to review the GX7 quickly and start reviewing more m4/3 cameras was so popular. I have never seen another comment get even close to 70 likes before (it certainly helped that I got it in early). Thank you to all who gave a thumbs up and I encourage you to keep visiting and posting comments in these previews and reviews, it is the biggest thing that Simon and DPR pay attention to, how much traffic they get. If we blitz the previews with page views and comments they will reward us with a quick review, at least that is my hope.
You're welcome - you spoke for the silent majority also, the comment re: SLR garners more traffic - a quick look on the Reviews & specs: 57% (SLR) vs 43% (Rest). I am not that convinced as the top 10 is still only 30% of all activity. I suspect the GX7 was fast tracked due to rumours, leaks and Panasonics' goodwill/PR machine. Never-the-less I will be buying one, it's what the GX1 should have been as I have the GF1 with external EVF and far from ideal.
The image (circles of confusion) was a 'feature' of a particularly rubbish 600mm mirror lens I thought about buying for my Minolta XGM. I declined and in retrospect, now realise how much digital photography and lens technology has come on.
Bob Janes: I score on most, although I only lusted after 9 and 10...
I confess that I'm not familiar with 11 at all - can someone enlighten me?
Oh yeah, I remember! :-) That would have annoyed me all day! Got the rest - tragic eh?
D1N0: No wooden grip?
Patience Padawan - its coming... then you can buy one, Yay!
Andrew Wiggin: But does it still refuse to scan once a single ink cartridge is emptied?After a horrendous experience with a PIXMA where the all-in-one turns into a none-in-one, once a *single* ink cartridge ran out- never again a Canon printer.So, really what I'm asking is weather Canons money grabbing exploiting policy stopped manifesting itself so abusively in this product.
Absolutic: Boy...these were the most how should I say it nicely.... uninspiring samples ever from you guys. What happened to gorgeous London samples of yester years. Seattle is just not that picture-friendly? If there are no more interesting subjects to shoot, at least find some attractive people to take pictures of!!!! Sorry if I sound harsh, but I used to love the samples when they came from London. These days I don't even want to open the samples anymore.
In the same vein - most shots tend to be at base ISO and those at higher ISO tend to be of subjects that mask the noise so we get a warped view. Naturally the manufacturers want their product in the best light ('scuse pun) however all cameras have this so it is no surprise, a testing scene would help me discriminate between cameras. Is that not the purpose of this site?
elotorero: I think I get it..... if (and they hope) they manage to sell even just 50 of these. They'd have probably made a profit already. If the product image says anything, they probably just took refurbished Nex7s with lenses off Sony's hands (at very cheap EOL basement bargain prices) then modded and stamped them with their brand. its actually pretty smart for them and pretty dumb for those who would actually bite and buy.
Heck I'm having fun imagining they only invested the exact price tag of $7000 on this in a simple gamble that at least one Hassy fan will buy this farce.
I thought similarly but then, 100 x $7K still does not that much difference to this Co as the portfolio of products it has can bring in much more revenue than this. I feel this someone's corporate ego trip.
Hideous is the new Hasselblad - just goes to show that corporations can get so insular and deny the inevitable. Nobody here has anything positive to say about this camera - shame as a brand it was so highly regarded and now is mocked.
GeorgeZ: Some constructive criticism:
page 3: With the addition of a pair of buttons, the E-PM1 still retains a compact camera look and feel as far as controls are concerned.>Should say PM2
Olympus' or Olympus's? It's gotta be either one.
As for the comment on the overexposed fill-flash: How can a reviewer say that when they are choosing aperture priority and f5.6? It would be a fair comment if it were auto mode, but if you're choosing AP you should know at least the basics (or be less sloppy).
I know I'm a pain in the butt but if you're always saying your reviews take so long because they are sooo painstakinlgy thorough, why do I always find several typos, errors and not working links within the first 10 minutes of reading it?
What, like date stamps on images for Nov 1899? Have to agree... We pedants notice this stuff.
I was so tempted to ask for a go in the time machine as the sample images were taken in Nov 1899, somehow the images seemed more contemporary than 114 years ago... Must have been another reason for that... so disappointed... :-).
Can in future we have more images with a range of ISOs? Seems the bulk are at min/low and I want to get a feel for the flexibility of the camera to a range of ISOs, always a token few with non-critical scenes that don't push the camera, or play safe and 'don't let the camera down'. In this case the images would imply a good capability, however just don't push the envelope.
Is it me, but a pension Co buying this seems a bit weird, where is the synergy? Seems that dim-witted managers see a quick buck getting this for $650 and make a quick win, inevitably it sold for $650 as that is what its worth, thus no quick wins to be had... Shame, another icon goes along with Marconi and others.
kimchiflower: If only Bryan Adams had stuck to photography and saved us from his irritating music
The comment is about the music, calm down dear...
Pedagydusz: Well, we will see... 50 mm aperture for photography is not all that much. And in any case, photography of very distant objects (birds, Moon, buildings...) is usually ruined by atmosphere turbulence (what astrophotographers usually refer to as "poor seeing").But lets hope! It is a good thing that it is available.
I have to agree, the Lumix 45-200mm in the UK with the high RH @200mm things get quite hazy - esp. on the coast. We get a few days where the air is clear but that is quite rare. Moreover, unless the sun is bright, all the above apply: shake, and also trying to catch wildlife is tough, or has been for me. Hence the massive lenses used at sports events with wide apertures I guess.
TheProv: Are you serious? Really? Are you the same of DPreview or are you stealing only the name?It takes bravery to call this "camera review".Even I could do this "camera review".
Please be serious and start doing cameraphone reviews at the level I can see on your mother site (?) and for wich I know you are able to.
Agree, also seems to me DPR is looking for anything loosely allied to photography to pad out the site at the expense of core DP tests. Even peddling stuff from other sites which I don't understand, as product lifecycles get ever shorter there must be more to publish?