forpetessake: Will this article finally stop those f2=f2=f2 stupid arguments? I doubt it. Stupid arguments come from stupid people: those same people who were explained the equivalence to many times before without any success.
@NowHearThis - that's pretty much best summary of never ending wars I have ever read :)
sneakyracer: 9 GRAND! That is just an absurd price for this lens even it has great image quality. Phamiya is not Leica. This lens looks like a Mamiya 645 lens (it probably is a modified version of one). I got a Pentax 645 FA lens for $500 used in excellent condition, should work great on my 645Z. Absurd that this Phase One lens costs about the same as a 645Z 50mp Medium Format Digital Camera.
Should be half the price.
you already have Z? didn't know you can buy one, thought they're available from the end of June
Old Baldy: Wow, just look how BAD the IQ is from this camera!
Truly, my old Canon 20D takes nicer pictures with a kit lens.
I'm shocked that anyone would consider this piece of garbage.
Now....perhaps that's moved me up the waiting list by a few folks canceling their orders. :-)
here you go: http://dpnow.com/9487.html
I have just played with one, my small feedback is here http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3662905?page=2#forum-post-53589898
it really feels nice in hand
RichRMA: Rather than just launching a long-winded diatribe on why it's no good, or denigrating those who'll buy it, just preface it by admitting you can't afford it.
@JDThomas - I LOL-ed so hard - brilliant!
EssexAsh: hand built doesnt really mean much when all they do is screw a few circuit boards in.
@Samuel -> i don't believe that anybody has, most just skipped through few sections :D
@HowaboutRAW - loaded those DNGs at to ACR and it looked much better than yesterday at my screen at work (what a crap screen I have :)) I like the character of noise on high ISO
Don't like X-T1's form factor, don't like the buttons - for the same reason I didn't like X-E2 - small tiny low quality buttons. X-Pro1 has better build than X-E2 and from what I've seen also better buttons than X-T1. I'm not a button smasher but when I need to use them I want them to work. I found X-E2 way too small for my hands - I use additional grip on my X-Pro1 to improve handling ;)
The switch wouldn't be that bad for me, I have some Voigt glass and I could just add announced zoom for the start. I would use it as I use my Fuji - mixed light camera for holidays and random walks. For good light/tripod I have a medium format system and DP2M.
Will need to wait for more reviews. My plan would be to replace X-Pro1 system with the T. But only if it offers better IQ and only then.
I'm not that convinced, but I'm used to look at 16mp X-Trans files in CaptureOne or files from DP2M - both show by default more detail.
It is also down to software though, CaptureOne has profiles for cameras it supports with some defaults already in place (saves a lot of time in PP later) where ACR had all on defaults.
EDIT: there is someone here on these boards with the camera, see here: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3661454
@HowaboutRAW - in the second page of comments - author posted link to RAWs taken with M lenses
actually, I checked the RAWs he suggested and really nothing to call home about ;)
Old Baldy: Hmmmm, so some more research and it appears that the camera will seemingly work only with M-mount lenses that have bit-encoding on them, as the shutter does not release without the Leica electronic adapter and thus presumably an encoded lens. THAT kills the camera for me, as I'd hoped to be able to use my nice little Voigtlander M-mount lenses on it. Damn shame. :-(
Also, I'd have expected it to have environmental seals so I could take it with me as a travel camera on my motorcycle.
I guess my next camera remains an X-T1 after all. Pity, I really, really, like much of this camera!
@T3 - thanks for the links!
rogerstpierre: Beautiful object indeed, but how usable is it going to be in bright sunshine?
like all other cameras with 'silver' finish
Dames01: This camera will allow all those owners of Leica M lenses to use them without having to buy an 'M' body....
@Le Frog - magnification is much more precise way of focusing than peaking. Peaking 'guesses' what it believes is in focus - it works with contrast rather than 'knowing' what is in focus - that's where magnification is miles better.Current SLRs are hard to focus manually in comparison with properly calibrated RF. Older SLRs though, very good but you also had nice focusing screen in your camera.
Smasher: I had a chance to play with one at the local camera shop yesterday.
Yes--it's like they stuck an iPhone inside a NEX; even the body looks and feels like a NEX body, with similar proportions. Its interface is very smart-phone-like, with swipe/pinch/tap actions throughout; the Leica dot appears instead of the Apple logo when you power it off. It is a nicely designed and finished piece, with a nice, spare user interface.
It doesn't feel or behave like a "serious" camera, though that's probably just the point. It's not for photogs; it's for well-heeled users looking for a well-built and well-finished camera-as-accessory--people for whom shooting isn't the primary goal. And in that respect, it fits the bill perfectly.
Reminds me of this quote from a film:
"Hi, I'm Candy."
"Of course you are…"
melon: No offense to Leica users, but I can only thank Fuji that they had released their X system before Leica did this.
As a user of both Leica and Fuji, I will tell you only one thing - no comparison ;)
Helena777: I don't understand this camera nor undertands the people who admire this extraordinaria piece of snobbery.
Put a NEX-3N sensor on a factory, remove the body of policarbonate and add a miraculous one block alu body. Plus, add a zaphire screen doing it resistant to scratches. Put highest quality components. Take in mind that workers income are in euros. Transport of components...across europe. All the manufacture is made with AAA+ grade. Well. We have a extraordinary camera. But its price is worth, even knowing what I said?? I think NO.
And then, comes the mind of the buyer: If the money is no problem, and the quality is what you want, OK, the price is ridiculous but tou take highest quality. BUT, if it is the sense of superior human, because you can pay that price tag, and you buy EGO, then you have a problem. Basically you are an idiot.
*** Philoshopically talking, everyone of us is a bit idiot :) ***
@pixelpushing - What I meant is they are all "pretty much" the same cup of tea and in combined value cost like this new T - it's just to give a bit more perspective on the value. UK price is actually good, £1350 for a Leica body seems unbelievable.
No offense, but just count the number of bodies you have in your gear section and their value ;) - btw, most of them based on the same sensor
This camera with the zoom plus Voigt 15/35/50 and problem solved ;) (just need to buy back voigt 15 I sold last week)