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JJ Rodin: For a given sensor resolution the Foveon is essentially beyond comparison in IQ, if the sometimes green cast is not present they are the best photos I have ever seen at 100% or less.
Saw a back-to-back of Sigma DP1 M vs 5DIII shot at same time and the sigma beat the 5dIII easily!
The shots are easily used up to 100% and still look fabulous, almost 3D, plus the fixed FL of DP1M was VERY sharp, better than the 'L' lens the lady used for the comparison.
Hi ISO is not great but then I don't use them! Sigma s/w is not great either, but.....
DP1/2/3M are pricey but then so are the RX1, etc large sensor fixed lens very compact cams.
Hope Canon can pull it off, lots of good benefits!
I have a DP2M and this badly flawed first implementation does produce incredible images, perfect for landscape, travel and architecure.
A new sensor technology is long overdue, and I applaud Sigma(Foveon), Canon and Sony(patent) for their innovative work on multi-layered sensor design.
vin 13: Not exactly a guarantee is it?
Stu are you saying you have access to Adobes internal sales data ??????? You should disclose you are working for Adobe.
Henry M. Hertz: and if you want a great (thought a bit slow, but quality has it´s price) RAW converter:
http://www.picturecode.com/index.php
it pulls details out of my RAW files no other RAW converter is able to.
I think the upgrade from NoiseNinja to PhotoNinja for $79 iso $129 is not a bad offer. NoiseNinja 3 is now included in PhotoNinja. I really love the detail this new converter pulls out of my raws. With 16GB RAM it is fast IMHO
There is no guarantee that the standalone version is not crippled down compared to the CC version.
The should specify what LR5 will only get 'basic updates' means.
Reactive: Anyone downloaded GIMP? Give it a try. I bet it does 90% of the jobs that PhotoShop can do for you! Open Source software is usually updated far more often than Adobe's snail's pace, the developers actually LISTEN to your needs and bug reports, and it costs nothing! In other words, all of the things Adobe don't do, despite their obscene prices.
You can use PhotoNinja as photoshop plugin within gimp. It is a better raw developer than ACR.
In case Gimp does not do what you need at the moment, try photoline. It does some things better than photoshop, like lab curves. And it is cheap (€59) compared to photoshop. After the trial is expired it continues to run forever with an nagscreen at startup.
Michael Devonport: Copyright question: My question, If you lose your membership with the new Adobe Cloud. Who owns your photos, Adobe or you?
What I am trying to get at, Facebook under their terms state that they own all photos that are being uploaded to their web site.
If you fail to continue your membership with Adobe Cloud in the form of payment. Does Adobe have a right to use your photos for advertising purposes with out your consent?
diglloyd went into the Adobe Creative Cloud legal agreement in his blog
http://macperformanceguide.com/index.html
scroll down to
Adobe Creative Cloud: Lopsided Legal Agreement
The German computer mags publishing house heise brought it to the point on their website:
Adobe gets rid of a lot of problems at once:
They don't have to animate their customers buying a new product/update every 2 years
the regular automatic updates have to be just good enough not to loose existing subscribers
the number of existing creative suites combinations has been drastically reduced, saving Adobe a lot of money.
And in addition they don't have to cope with the used software market and transfer of licences.
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Adobes-Abo-in-der-Creative-Cloud-Funktionen-und-Bedingungen-unter-der-Lupe-1858596.html
Massively lowering their costs without giving a price advantage to their customers sounds like printing money.
I am afraid in case Adobe get through with it, this model will be copied by many other software makers.
kinglau711: You HAD raving fans Adobe, it was a competitive edge in today market.
This is all about marketing / customers needs; No one is irreplaceable.
For the first time in decades I am considering some alternatives.
For the first time I downloaded the demo version of Capture One Pro 7...
http://www.phaseone.com/capture-one
The output of CaptureOne Pro 7 ist still better than LR5beta. They just have to make it plugin compatible.
Adobe is not in the unique position they believe they are.
Winston,
he closest Phohotoshop clone I know off is photoline.
www.pl32.com
Some of it's functions like lab curves even surpass Photoshop.
The company is run by 2 brothers. They do all the programming, development, maintenance, sales, marketing, help desk etc.
Adobe has tens of thousands of employees. I think it is time for Adobe to streamline it's business processes and organization to become more productive, instead of letting your customers pay for, and adapt a business model, that is counter productive for their own productivity.
Adobe VP of Creative Solutions, Winston Hendrickson wrote.
"The reason behind the subscription-only move is the logistics of supporting two sets of software. The last 12 months of development was brutal. And there were results we were not happy with. We have decided to focus on the CC products."
glacierpete: Still missing the Sigma DP2M (and DP1M/DP3M) support. Adobe now supports even Fuji but no Foveon support.
to answer my own question.
Today adobe staff replied in the adobe forum that adobe works on supporting the fovean sensor.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5239268#5239268
Still missing the Sigma DP2M (and DP1M/DP3M) support. Adobe now supports even Fuji but no Foveon support.
I dont see the Sigma DP2M. ???????
Sigma claimed they provided the necessary technical data to adobe.
And the Nex 5n ???????
Interested to learn how it compares to the Sigma DP2 Merrill with Foveon X3 sensor. Ignoring that the Merill sensor is DX.This camera with a 24x36mm Foveon X3 sensor would be a classic.
mgrum: I'm really hoping they've adopted the same "concentrate on sharpness, don't bother trying to correct distortion" approach which lead to the fantastic performance/price characteristics of the 14 f/2.8
Distortion is easier to correct than lack of corner sharpness.
If they can even get close to the 24 TSE at Samyang prices C&N will be very worried. If not then at least it's a good practice lens for people considering the Canon 24 tilt shift.
OldZorki
Shift is great for stiching. And there are also parallel patterns in nature like trees in a forest.
Thomas Kachadurian: It has always struck me that Canon puts much too high a price on their TS-E 24 because they can.
Given it doesn't have to have fast AF or a compact size, or even electric contacts, I see no reason why Samyang--based on the lenses I have of theirs--can't be every bit as good as Canon L. It even has a red ring!
I'll buy one if it's under $1000 before the reviews are even out.
Tom
I use a cheap chinese tilt adapter on a Nex 5n with my AIS Nikon 28/2.8. There is no vignetting or corner smearing at full 8 degree tilt.
For DX and tilt only this is for sure the cheaper solution than a Nikon PC in DX mode. No image degradation.
Here is an news mag article (in German) that mentions a price of 900 Euro and it will have no a low pass filter.
http://www.heise.de/foto/meldung/X-E1-Die-kleine-Schwester-der-X-Pro-1-1699464.html
IsabelS: DxO Optics Pro 7 is a very capable image editor. Yet, for some reason it is still unreceptive and uncompanionable to ever-growing crowd of m4/3 users.
How would you otherwise justify the lack of such stellar lenses as Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 25 mm f/1.4 and Panasonic Lumix G Vario 7-14mm F4 ASPH in their module selection?
Axel,
as a Sony Nex 5n owner with legacy lenses (Leica M, Voigtländer etc), I would like a way to edit the exif information to add information about the lens used. Kind of a pull down menue to add the lens. Add some profiles for combinations of a Nex 5n, Nex 7/and Voigtländer CV 15, CV35/2.5, Zeiss ZM 35/2.0, etc.
There is a huge market of Sony Nex, legacy lens shooters. They would love to buy a product supporting this function.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/969329/201
Yomama just put a the tiny Voigtländer CV 15 15/4.5 Aspherical Super-Wide Heliar on a Nex 5n and you see that you logic is wrong.
They do have to work on their Nex 7 sensor color filter array and AA filter.
It sounds like all these posters are primarily interested in autofoucs lenses. Sony's short registration distance allows to adapt about every make of lens including tiny Leica M and Zeiss ZM lenses. Ricoh has no problems with the short registration distance of rangefinder lenses on an APS-C sensor.
I cannot see how AF could improve a wideangle lens like a Voigtländer CV15 on a Nex5n, because nearly everything is in focus anyway. This lens is an incredible performer on a Nex5n.
As a fist step i would love to see a Nex software upgrade to add some lens information into the exif for manual lenses. Make focal length and f-stop information for 5 manual lenses selectable. Nikon has a similar function on it's DSLRs.