G1Houston: Just tell you how much SONY has been overpricing its products ...
As long as there are enough gear heads around there is no need to price it cheaper. A dumb poser gear head will buy anything new regardless of it's price therefore making the life more expensive for people who really love photography. And we have to compete with these people? On which platform?
Will we see a sexy unwrapping of D810?
Ramius: Wish they made this for mirrorless full frame FE mount instead. Its annoying how breakthroughs like this lens is made for the camera technology of the past.
@Ramius, I suggest you go out and look at what people are using for taking pictures. It's compacts, mobile phones and DSLR's by a huge majority. Even before the first ever mirrorless camera hit the shelves people on forums likes this have been going on about the death of DSLR's. Mirrorless cameras are smaller yes but there must be a reason why peole are still chosing DSLR's over it. Do you want Tamron make a huge investment to sell few lenses and ultimately lose money?
Oh dear!!! All the underwater photographs were taken on short telephoto setting. Reveal the name of the photographer please. Couldn't have someone from Dpreview at least tell the "photographer" that underwater photography is very much prone to haze if telephoto lens is used? As if someone tried deliberately to make pictures look bad.
ttnewton: Forget the IS for wide angle lenses, if it costs a stop or more. I just don't get that. In handheld low-light scenarios involving moving subjects (wedding, photojournalism) if the moving subjects are blurry, it hardly matters if the still background is nice and sharp. Might be worse, actually. The loss of a stop requires doubling the shutter time, all else equal, so low-light moving-subject situations are going to suffer with this lens.
But what if the subject is not moving? I can definitely see a place for handheld landscape/travel enthusiasts who want the best possible optical performance without having to lug a tripod. But still, why spend big bucks on the finest optics and then compromise your landscapes by leaving the tripod home?
What Canon REALLY needs to get around to is a good competitor to Nikon's amazing 14-24mm f/2.8. Now THAT is a lens I'd buy, IS or not!! :-)
IS is there if you want to/need to use it, you don't have to use it. IS , up to a limit, eliminates camera shake and doesn't freeze moving subjects. This lens is not for freezing fast action in low light with or without IS, it's a more affordable/ lighter alternative to 16-35 f2.8. You would need absolute minimum shutter speeds for different action shots. Alternatively, you might want to try, albeit limited, using flashgun to freeze action where applicable. Could you explain how IS costs a stop or more please. Also you didn't have to write two Canon bashing paragraphs to insert a Nikon ad.
Chronis: Boring boring boring....
I ve spent 000' on canon kit and glass but they ve end up a slow moving incumbent...
Id really like to see their a#@+* kicked by the likes of Sony oly and samsung
Somehow I don't believe you ever bought that glass even if you did you'd never tried it before you bought it. For a fast action shooting pro like yourself it's a very unwise purchase. how did you slip up this time?
Does it come in pink colour, mirrorless, 240fps 4K video, 24-300mm f1.8 kit zoom? If it doesn't I'll buy this one and wait for the next model to come out in three weeks.
oselimg: We would like unpacking of certain brands' cameras which is more exciting and in line with current voyeuristic trends than a hasty publication of a serious camera. As excitement will ware off Dpreview should consider exposing private lives of certain brands' engineers.
@Gazemoon...Obviously you're not aware of the reference made on my comment. I prefer Single Malt Scotch by the way.
We would like unpacking of certain brands' cameras which is more exciting and in line with current voyeuristic trends than a hasty publication of a serious camera. As excitement will ware off Dpreview should consider exposing private lives of certain brands' engineers.
kroon: The majority of comments on dpreview are getting more and more childish, frustrated and spitefull. Why is this?
@kroon...Here is my attempt at answers for your question/criticism: #1:DPreview is becoming more general consumer oriented website thus attracting more gearheads who are infinetely frustrated for the "Holy Grail of Photographic Gear" discovery not being made. #2:D4S isn't mirrorless type(current gearhead fetish) #3:Brand hate and brand fetish go hand in hand. #4:But Nikon contributed to this process with disastrous public relations over D600 faults. #5: I strongly suspect that majority of trolls are from people who have nothing to do with photography and here only to channel their frustration with life in general.
Brilliantine Stick Inesct: Nikon and Canon are rapidly becoming dinosaurs. Mirrorless cameras will kill their business model. The mirror less efforts from both these guys have been poor. Olympus and Fuji are showing the way.
Mirrorless will kill SLR is different than wishing mirrorless will kill Canon, Nikon and Pentax. Stay calm, when they've perfected the viewfinder and seen big enough market share your mirrorless fetish will also be served by these three big and very experienced names in the industry.
oselimg: I've just noticed that there is no D1x review. Wow!!! The main competitor. DPreview could have, at least, compare if D1x unpacks in low light as good.
Hahaaa!! sorry everyone I meant 1Dx. I must check also if I'm sharp as D4s. :-))))
I've just noticed that there is no D1x review. Wow!!! The main competitor. DPreview could have, at least, compare if D1x unpacks in low light as good.
Ok, Nokia raw gives slightly better DR but slightly grainier/noisy look than Nokia jpeg, it's a trade off. But how about technically comparing it to an ordinary DSLR or M4/3? I can't imagine people suddenly shedding their cameras for Nokia phones even as hobbyists. Another gimmick for wannabes.
oselimg: Good drum roll on breaks Mike Perlman but more work needed on your grooving :-))))) On a more serious note I've yet to hear a good bass recording from tiny equipments like the GoPro is. A good microphone alone would cost as much as the camera itself but then you'd need recording chip capable of handling high sound levels too. I guess some corners have to be cut.
@ Mike Perlman...I'm fully aware that you don't claim to be the last word in drumming and you make that clear in your article too. No offence meant at all. I was just trying to put some humour in my comment at your expense. On the contrary I whole heartedly support you or anyone else to get involved in creative hobbies which would make the world a much better place to live.
Good drum roll on breaks Mike Perlman but more work needed on your grooving :-))))) On a more serious note I've yet to hear a good bass recording from tiny equipments like the GoPro is. A good microphone alone would cost as much as the camera itself but then you'd need recording chip capable of handling high sound levels too. I guess some corners have to be cut.
oselimg: A camera (K3) never revieved by Dpreview wins it. Isn't this a proof that people don't refer to this site when buying a camera or at least a DSLR? Can infantile trollheads and gearheads take some lessons from this phenomenon and finally grow up or is it a wishful thinking?
@Andy Westlake...How admitting that a lot of people don't necessarily refer to this site first when buying a camera is a counter argument to mine which suggests the same? If this is your way of blurring lines it's not very successful at least wasted on me. Voting for a camera one's never bought or even touched is also bizarre. What my comment also suggests in small prints that this site is fast becoming a playground for troll heads and gear heads battling against each other and also a site for hungry technology junkies counting numbers, pixels and functions they will never use to take a picture. If this direction is bringing in more clicks and advertising it's perfectly legitimate. But there is no guarantee that it will stay as a photographic web site or photo enthusiasts' web site
A camera (K3) never revieved by Dpreview wins it. Isn't this a proof that people don't refer to this site when buying a camera or at least a DSLR? Can infantile trollheads and gearheads take some lessons from this phenomenon and finally grow up or is it a wishful thinking?
oselimg: So...Dpreview is largely followed by 4/3 users. That's fine but please don't call a smaller sensor cameras as "innovation" and compare them to bigger sensor ones. It's not because 4/3 is bad, not at all but they are simply governed by their physical structure which can be advantage or disadvantage at times. Neither camera group is a replacement for the other.
@Renevant...6000 may be fraction of visitors to this site but Dpreview in total is a fraction of photographic world. One must not take oneself too seriously. By the way when I say bigger I refer to 35mm sensor and above. No innovation will ever make a small sensor behave like a big sensor lens combination. Particular Camera functions is a different subject. One more thing; did I ever mention any brands on my original comment? "Bigger sensor" isn't a brand name.
@paulo79...yes it does, that's exactly what I meant. I draw the conclusion from your comment that you didn't deliberately misunderstand my comment.