If Dpreview put hoax News here stating that "Canon has just announced their first electric car" would people notice the difference and criticise it for it's DR and noise performance etc.?
batmatty: Im sure if it were using a Sony sensor it would reach ISO 40 million and have all the dynamic range!!!! Typical Canon. NO INNOVATION.
You lot re-invent yourselves in each thread time after time. No corporation can beat that sort of innovation.
abe4652: I didn't think that folks in England cared that much about politics. I guess their hatred of republicans and conservatism is such that they'll use some photos to show how bad these folks are. As proof, the fact that they had food on tables. The unmitigated gall. How dare leaders in America have food on tables around the time of 9/11.
Please. Even the brains-dead liberals posting here on Dpreview are not stupid enough to be so obvious in their bias.
This hysteria against left wing politics lead by Reagan-Thatcher from eighties was most evil world has ever seen. The rest is the s**t we live in now.
I don't understand people complaining about political comments. This pictures are of a highly suspicious event took place that changed the world order. If that is not political what is? Pictures are nothing to talk about either, just run off the mill PR photographs.
Sony seem to have better detail retention and noise performance above ISO 800. But that's not the whole picture when it comes to comparing cameras I guess.
Photoman: Imagine if it had current Sony sensors in it today.
I was wondering when someone would mention Sony sensors. Lenses would've been Canon L naturally :)))))))))) This web site is getting sadder and sadder.
marshwader: As with the 5DsR samples dpreview have done it again, finding samples that show the camera in the worst light and as you say aiming at the weak spots. high Iso, low light ... . Even "Photographyblog" who didn't exactly cover themselves in Glory with their initial fairly incompetent images of the Ds finally provided more interesting and more revealing samples in June. Some of these photos here are nice but they tell you very little about the real world performance of the 5Ds. I'm surprised they didn't stage this photo session in a coal mine. Or why not take some photos from a fighter jet rather than a helicopter.
@Rishi Sanyal...Your excuse/apology is worse than your "crime" and let me tell you why. Including Dpreview has been advising potential customers that to get the full benefits from the sensor 5Ds should be placed on a very sturdy tripod. Remember? ?The camera even has measures against mirror vibration. So why on earth anybody tries to take an aerial shot, especially with this camera, using a vehicle which is vibration ridden?
Greg VdB: Even neglecting the score of posts about the shameful copying of someone else's work, this garnered significantly more comments than regular portfolio posts. Which underlines the quality of the original work by Joel Robinson!
Now, DPR, give credit where credit is due.
"Big organisations" repackage, redresss their mess to make you believe that if they get hurt the world would crumble before our eyes and life in universe would end.
oselimg: His camera is made of cheap plastic Canon and DR is way behind Sony sensors there fore I don't like the pictures. This also doesn't allow me to repeat how great my mirrorless camera is.
@clicstudio...Hi, you must be new to these forums. I was being sarcastic.
Valiant Thor: Kind of looks like a hybrid of fine art and photography . . . wait . . . that's it . . . we'll call this kind of work fartography!
@Lassoni... I give them the credit in the amount of errmmm.. 0.5
And what do Dpreview think about "artful" insults taking place in forums? The humour in these comments doesn't pass elementary level either.
His camera is made of cheap plastic Canon and DR is way behind Sony sensors there fore I don't like the pictures. This also doesn't allow me to repeat how great my mirrorless camera is.
oselimg: And here is someone who doesn't know anything about photography, DR by most people's standards here but also doesn't give damn about gear lovers' current fetish. If you can bare not seeing any mention of DR, SNR etc.
Here is some help for those who doesn't want to read it. "His advice to young documentary photographers is, predictably, not technical: “You should have a good knowledge of history, of geopolitics, of sociology and anthropology to understand the society that we’re part of and to understand yourself and where you’re from in order to make choices. A lack of this knowledge will be much more limiting than any technical ability.”
@Lanski...Subject of my comment is not particularly 5Ds/r nor the point I'm trying to make.
Raist3d: Amazing how many people are still so attached in their identity to a brand. This is simple- Canon sensors are behind Sony's in dynamic range. That doesn't mean your Canon camera (if you have one) stopped working. It does mean for those looking for a camera, that's one thing to weight against the Canon vs the Canon advantages it may or may not have over what they are considering.
Pick what works for you. All cameras are good now. DR is not a Canon advantage- just put it as a cons in your list vs the Canon pros and make your choices accordingly. If the Canon in the end works pick that. If it doesn't, pick something else. If you already have one and love the glass, get out and shoot.
There's no need to have a heart attack for the performance of a product of a capitalist company.
I think the responses should be directed to Dpreview who keeps feeding gearlover's fetish to get more clicks for their websites which is a capitalist company also ;-)
And here is someone who doesn't know anything about photography, DR by most people's standards here but also doesn't give damn about gear lovers' current fetish. If you can bare not seeing any mention of DR, SNR etc.
oselimg: Ok, it has f2.8-4, credit given where it's due. This is an "enthusiast" lens not a main stream one therefore $1060 ok. However it's only 1/2 stop faster at the wide end and 1 stop at the long end compared to mainstream alternatives which in most cases is not significant. No wedding photographer will dare shooting with f4 at the longer end. if it had f2.8 throughout it would have made sense especially at the long end and even slightly bigger premium would've been justified if it were, performance wise, the "jack of all trades". With todays sensor performances I think the target audience wouldn't hesitate increasing the ISO one step instead of paying $$$ premium. 7 blades aperture is another Achilles heel for this zoom.
@eblison.. I agree with the points you raise regarding technical difficulties of designing f2.8 zoom lens and weight. But your comment still begs the question that who this lens is for and will they pay the premium for the aperture difference.
Ok, it has f2.8-4, credit given where it's due. This is an "enthusiast" lens not a main stream one therefore $1060 ok. However it's only 1/2 stop faster at the wide end and 1 stop at the long end compared to mainstream alternatives which in most cases is not significant. No wedding photographer will dare shooting with f4 at the longer end. if it had f2.8 throughout it would have made sense especially at the long end and even slightly bigger premium would've been justified if it were, performance wise, the "jack of all trades". With todays sensor performances I think the target audience wouldn't hesitate increasing the ISO one step instead of paying $$$ premium. 7 blades aperture is another Achilles heel for this zoom.
DStudio: The Nikon 85/1.8G looks more 3D than the others. But the OTUS does hold an advantage on hair and bristles. And this Canon sensor gets the most out of it when it comes to detail.
The Canon 85/1.8 is a classic example of how they drive you to L glass - by producing under-performing entry and mid-range lenses (although thankfully, they're slowly improving that situation).
I think the 85/1.8G is the easy choice for most uses. Plus, it has auto focus!
Canon 85mm f1.8 is such an old design which makes it even more remarkable that it can cope with the demands from a 50mp sensor.
oselimg: Once again the self righteous gear lovers are in the business wishing Canon vanished from the face of the earth. First of all camera buying people aren't aware that you exist. Secondly if canon or Nikon were go out of business you would pay double the amount of what you pay your favourite camera. Thirdly EF lenses would double in value so you lose again. Be careful what you wish for.
@Rishi Sanyal...You've deleted your previous comment from yesterday but your current one is also loaded. You think not every Canon purchase is an informed one but other brand purchases are?