SimenO1: Way to expensive compared to the Ricoh Theta S and Nikon Keymission
@Raintitan: I agree, 4K is important since you only would see a small crop of that in VR glasses. But so is 60 fps for smooth panning and short distance between the center of the unit and the lens because of stitching errors when that distance is large. Keymission has an advantage in weather resistance. Right now there are large drawbacks with all 360 solutions. This camera types need to mature a bit before I buy one.
@ZJ24: I think Keymission look horribly boxy. Not that Sphericam looks any better. I think Theta is the only good looking one.
@Matt_A: Half a megapixel? Where did you get that number? It records in Full HD, just over 2 Mp.
Way to expensive compared to the Ricoh Theta S and Nikon Keymission
drummercam: Oh. Forever. I get it. Kind of like Pentax K-mount lenses . . .
I also read: "We want to make K-mount lenses".
yzhenkai: What does this "G" mean?
(in terms of portability)
Charrick1: Auto DPReview Comment Creator - Just fill in the brackets! Here we go!...
Ha! "Forever!" So Sony is saying that they will last until [year when most DPReview readers will be 6 feet under]! What a crock! My [lens from before most of us were born, without any autofocus thus not taking advantage of Sony's superior subject tracking and Eye-AF / lens that autofocuses and sounds just slightly softer than a chainsaw when focusing] is still in my kit, and will be long after these lenses are gone! And they're so big! My [lens that fits on a camera with 1/4th the sensor size and is in no way comparable] only weighs [what a lens for a sensor 1/4th the sensor size should weigh]! Sony is a failure because [their lens lineup is incomplete / there are too many lens choices]. And besides [slight problem versus the competition that will either be solved by firmware this year, or in the next generation of cameras]. I think I'll stick to my [antiquated gear that I don't realize is inferior].
He in indirectly telling us their current lenses don't last forever and he does not say G Master fulfilled his bold wish.
Besides that, Sony E mount is one of the shortest lived camera mounts yet. If they want it to be the longest living mount they have to wait until almost all other existing mounts are changed or ended. I don't see that coming in my lifetime.
jaxson: These seem to be teasing anyone with any remaining faith in the company.
Everyone else just gets a good old laugh out of it.
The K mount is a very long lasting love. It lasts because its loved.
I'm sure buyers will be thrilled by their new camera and think it was well worth it. Pentax will be thrilled by the reception in the market. What you think is irrelevant since you obviously wont be a part of the thrill.
Peter K Burian: Pentax showed actual mockups of the camera at a couple of trade shows. Lots of photos of the mockups at http://www.ogunturkay.com/blog/?tag=ff
The one shown in February last year was a plastic prototype probably without internal parts, just a lens mount. The one in Paris in October 2015 was according to many people a working prototype.
PhotoUniverse: How much in USA and Canada?
Just guessing: maybe 5-600 US$.
mclaren777: I'll probably sell my Theta S and get this instead.
Having a waterproof design is really helpful.
mclaren777: I would rather wait for a new waterproofed Theta with 4K. I think the short distance between the lenses (low stitching error) and excellent portability will be worth the wait. The bulky and twice as expensive Keymission doesn't really look like it wants to be with me in my pocket.
aramgrg: "non-removable Li-Ion battery and USB 2.0"Yeah, you guys seem very new in the action cam market.
Yes, Its an action camera, but not comparable.
This is a 360 camera, not a flat image camera. Thats a large difference. Its not suppose to be viewed on flat screens at a distance. Its a VR optimized camera.
ZJ24: I'm waiting for the F-mount version (JK). I guess it's competing with the GoPro Black and Silver options given it does 4K; non-removable battery and no LCD will be an issue for some.
creaDVty: 360 is a totally different market. The whole point is viewing with VR glasses, exactly where 3D makes a lot of sense.
People wanting to show images on a flat screen or paper should not consider a 360 camera at all. The 360, 3D VR are a whole new niche growing up.
LegacyGT: The Gopro 360 3D is not a camera, but a holder for lots of Gopro cameras (12 on the smallest model). This is in a totally different price group and doesn't compare to the more seamless 360 modes from Keymission and the Theta-series. With seamless I mean less stitching error at close distances. In my eyes those are not competing solutions. If you consider Keymission, the way more expensive Gopro 360 3D will not be an option and vice versa.
SmilerGrogan: This will come in very handy for journalists and video artists who want to immerse their viewers in a situation. As long as it has awesome Nikon lens technology, I'm in.
At least it has some unawesome Nikon lens technology in it. The lenses are quite far apart, making a rather large and ugly seam between the to 180 degree images. At least for short distances.
On of the really cool things about the Theta S is that both lenses are mirrored in a 45 degree double sided mirror, that minimizes the distance and image seam.
I hope Nikon will do the same (licence the tech from Ricoh?) or Ricoh making the next theta water proof and support 4K 30-60 fps video.
cd cooker: For a flagship camera, I expect some forward thinking specs. I expect 1DXII has USB 3.0 type C connector, capable to charge the camera battery without taking out the battery, at least 3.5" back LCD screen. Like what Tony Nothrup said in one of his videos, can we retired those 80s Casio watch top LCD panel with some kind of e-Ink panel?
A $600 wifi adapter!?#@#$
Wifi should be built in. Professionals should expect wifi connectivity to their newspaper desk. After all we live in 2016 and most cameras look like old dumb devices.
IT should be built in both for the convenience of not having a large tumor on the camera, and because we should expect it.
The external module is just an annoying extra Canon-fee. Just like their stabilization system are designed to sell more lenses and make people pay for stabilization devices multiple times. People should expect it to be built into the camera. Effectively upgrading the stabilization on all your lenses every time you buy a new camera.
mezastel: Why don't they up the megapixel count? 20MP good enough for everyone?
Bandwith is cheap. I think its more a tradeoff between resolution and high ISO noise performance. I guess 20 Mp was as far they could press it without performing worse then its predecessor.
tecnoworld: At 16fps, it beats the samsung nx1 by 1 frame, but nx1 can do 15fps with AF and exposure, while this can do 14fps with those features on. Yet nx1 has 8MP pixels more, hence has to have faster readout and processing speed.
Curious to see the 4k compared with that from NX1.
Not to mention you could do 4K videos from 6 different angles with NX1 for the same price as a single 1DXmk2.
arhmatic: Great to see the gps included. This should really be standard everywhere. But LOL at the bump design. Wasn't there really any other place to put it?
Built in GPS is nice, if if would work as an astrotracer. For localization, its almost as easy to use the phone GPS and import the data to the images. (witch is totally irellevant for my use)
But no built in Wifi is a drawback. A brick of Wifi adapter mounted on a much larger brick of camera is just unnecessary. Sports journalists should expect a camera like this to have built in Wifi for immediately sending images to the desk. A big event should be imaged on the front page within minutes. Why don't Canon understand what this type of camera will be used for? _Optional_ communication between the photographer and the desk, just don't make sense.
Jonathan F/2: Definitely camera of the year! Go Canon!
Ingo70: Yes, its a little early, actually about 18 days too early to cancel that conclusion. ;-)
BigBen08: Only 20 mp?
Maybe 5DSR are what you are looking for. Just don't expect the same speed, file sizes or ISO performance.
GaryJP: Doesn't fit in a pocket. Fail.
Thought I'd just help the trolls.
This is one heavy beast, even for a FF DSLR. Even the MF Pentax 645D is lighter.