Petrogel

Petrogel

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vv50: 808 photo: 78 + 80 + 73 + 84 + 88 + 89 + 81 = 573
Z2 photo: 88 + 74 + 84 + 83 + 84 + 68 + 85 = 566
both score = 81?

What is this an argument with yourself?

Direct link | Posted on Apr 17, 2014 at 17:06 UTC
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Menneisyys: Speaking of the 808's flash, yesterday, I made tons of open-air "social" shots in the evening, with the 808. The subjects were typically at least 5-6 meters away. Everything was on auto, incl. the flash. I used CameraPro Qt in its 41 full-sensor Mpixel mode.

The 808 chose ISO 640...1000 for the shots. Of course, I did manual focusing before each shot. All the shots were good (again, if you carefully pre-focus, there won't be focus problems) and the subjects (people) pretty well lit by the Xenon flash. The, in addition to the (possibly) high brightness, other advantage of Xenon flash, namely, movement freezing, also worked just fine.

Now, do the same with the Z2's cr@ppy LED flash...

Why not go to your last status,
Silent or ignored ?

Direct link | Posted on Apr 12, 2014 at 17:14 UTC
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Menneisyys: Speaking of the 808's flash, yesterday, I made tons of open-air "social" shots in the evening, with the 808. The subjects were typically at least 5-6 meters away. Everything was on auto, incl. the flash. I used CameraPro Qt in its 41 full-sensor Mpixel mode.

The 808 chose ISO 640...1000 for the shots. Of course, I did manual focusing before each shot. All the shots were good (again, if you carefully pre-focus, there won't be focus problems) and the subjects (people) pretty well lit by the Xenon flash. The, in addition to the (possibly) high brightness, other advantage of Xenon flash, namely, movement freezing, also worked just fine.

Now, do the same with the Z2's cr@ppy LED flash...

Dude you are like a thriller, just when i think you're dead, you post a comment.

Direct link | Posted on Apr 12, 2014 at 17:09 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

Mate !!! i've never liked Dxo's sensor ranking as i've never liked the 808 fanboys pointing out at me the first place 808 had at the Dxo "top 10". This is my moment and i'm enjoying it.
So ………"DxOMark Mobile report: Sony Xperia Z2 takes top spot"

P.S Get yourself a glass of wine and enjoy your weekend !!!!!!!!

Direct link | Posted on Apr 12, 2014 at 15:24 UTC
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Menneisyys: Speaking of the 808's flash, yesterday, I made tons of open-air "social" shots in the evening, with the 808. The subjects were typically at least 5-6 meters away. Everything was on auto, incl. the flash. I used CameraPro Qt in its 41 full-sensor Mpixel mode.

The 808 chose ISO 640...1000 for the shots. Of course, I did manual focusing before each shot. All the shots were good (again, if you carefully pre-focus, there won't be focus problems) and the subjects (people) pretty well lit by the Xenon flash. The, in addition to the (possibly) high brightness, other advantage of Xenon flash, namely, movement freezing, also worked just fine.

Now, do the same with the Z2's cr@ppy LED flash...

Menneisyys, read the title of the article and repeat after me …. Sony Xperia Z2 takes top spot

Direct link | Posted on Apr 12, 2014 at 07:55 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

Mistyfella It seems you're right there are some difficulties communicating , what i am talking about is the absolute picture value, the image quality, in which Νοκια 808 lost "the scepters" long time ago firstly by the Samsung S4 and now with the Sony Xperia Z2.
As for the flash, till it's proved that both Z1and Z2 use the same led flash , i'll have my objections.
Now about who pays whom, if i'm not mistaken Nokia used to pay well known photographers on the same sites ( the same sites you accuse, as being Sony-paid) to comment on or even write articles about how great the 1020/808 are, something that i've found really ridiculous

Direct link | Posted on Apr 12, 2014 at 07:40 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

Mistyfog Dude
No i haven't checked the xenon over the led flash, (my labs were closed for preservation) but strangely i only get the funny persistence of people that use anything they can come up with, out of nowhere, only to justify their theory.
Mistyfella if i may suggest to purchase those hypermetropia pair of glasses (dude !! you didn't see we were talking about Z2 and you were pointing the Z1), there are no photos comparing "studio comparison chart" of the Z2 to 808, and something else, nothing is better cause you or Menneisyys or anybody else says so.
Are you sure you can tell the difference between Nokia's Xenon Flash and the Xperia's Z2 flash ?
Have you seen the brightness of a Z2 flash ?
(don't think so )
Edit: """prescribe your corrective lenses. No wonder… LOLOLOL"""

Direct link | Posted on Apr 11, 2014 at 16:45 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

Mistydude
Why don't you check this site (more accurate than any one in here) : http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z2-overview-Revised-model-takes-first-place-in-Mobile-rankings

Instant, but most of all valid eye check (and won't cost you a thing)
Great weekend to you too, 808 fandude

Direct link | Posted on Apr 11, 2014 at 13:56 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

Dude if "you're still a bit of old school" as you say you are, buy yourself a pair of hypermetropia glasses and check your 808 photos again, as for the marketing skills, there is nothing more catchy than the 39mp coming out from a smartphone sensor.
Dxo was just fine as long as 808 had the lead, but now there is no technical knowledge or requirements needed to join the team?

MistyFog dude i also trust my own eyes and i do too refuse to let a site guide me for what's good or bad product, but the last two years for the 808 or the last 8 months for the 1020 there were people (in here) exalting big pixel count as the main feature for a better Image Quality, so please save the lesson for somebody else…
Nice talking to ya !!!

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 19:38 UTC
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Dominick101: 808 is still king when it comes to IQ, period.

They did
Sony Z2 vs Nokia 808 : 79-77

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 16:17 UTC
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Dominick101: DXO lost all their credibility which is for sure. Look into the fine details of their scores between 808 and Z2 and you will see how mismatch their comparison is. If you look further into the scores of iphone5s and 1020, you will, too, be shocked. DXO being a reputable site puts out bias rubbish scores which are most of the time subjective to the tester/user.

Sony Xperia Z2 79
Nokia 808 77

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 16:16 UTC
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a1strank: Put the 1" RX100 sensor in that thing and just take my money

Medium format sounds more tempting,

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 15:58 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

MistyFog why don't you join the DXO labs to perform tests that are more convenient to the results you'd like to get?

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 15:55 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

Or a Z2 wich is significant better from an 808

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 15:35 UTC
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Dominick101: 808 is still king when it comes to IQ, period.

Soryy but just did (at least at DXO labs)

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 15:32 UTC
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Dominick101: 808 is still king when it comes to IQ, period.

Well with the Xperia Z2 you can do that …… careless
;-)

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 14:44 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

if you compare an iPhone with your 808 in some of the areas the iPhone will excel that doesn't mean is better over your 808 …… or is it ?

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 14:42 UTC
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Dominick101: DXO lost all their credibility which is for sure. Look into the fine details of their scores between 808 and Z2 and you will see how mismatch their comparison is. If you look further into the scores of iphone5s and 1020, you will, too, be shocked. DXO being a reputable site puts out bias rubbish scores which are most of the time subjective to the tester/user.

You obviously haven't understood the title and the details of the article .

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 14:37 UTC
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Dominick101: 808 is still king when it comes to IQ, period.

In that case even your iPhone takes a better photo.

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 14:35 UTC
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Juandante: It is very funny to see the amount of Fanboys here. Anyone agrees that the Samsung Galaxy S4 with its small 1/3 sensor have same if not better IQ than the old N8.

Same goes for this ancient 808 with tiny squeezy pixels, this is technology.

DXO did!!!

Direct link | Posted on Apr 10, 2014 at 14:34 UTC
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