Bizair: Stop the silliness. It's all about sensor noise. This does not even come close to a full frame capability in regard to IQ. Maybe in the future, but it's no where near that type of quality yet.
It's a bird! It's a plane! It's CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!
dmanthree: Pics aren't bad, but it's too bad that the camera is marooned in a Windows phone that nobody wants. It if isn't IOS or Andriod, forget it.
The Dro: that's just ignorant.
Peiasdf: My biggest problem with this phone is the low end hardware on the phone part. It uses virtually the same innards as the 920, an one year old phone that's pretty behind the time when it comes out.
@Peiasdf: those are theoretical advantages. Unless you have evidence that the 920 (or 1020) hardware is a hindrance in practise, you're just blowing smoke.
Boerseuntjie: Very cool love the Camera grip, suck that Samsuck...LOL
@supeyugin1: You really believe Windows Mobile is superior to Windows Phone? You must be a masochist.
No wonder you switched to Android.
And the practical downside is... ?
Tonkotsu Ramen: no android or ios no care
David: so you're saying that low/midrange phones don't compare well to flagship phones? Good to know. Got it.
techmine: Nokia is fast alienating itself from the most serious camera or smartphone users, by providing this technology in "Windows only" phones. After 808 launch, people had some hope of seeing the sensor+optics on Android (at the very least). Too bad ain't gonna happen.
What proof do you have that "serious camera and smartphone users" would not want a Windows Phone?
It's a hell of a good OS--more innovative and usable than iOS or Android (the latter by far).
halc: Sample images look good for a smartphone:
Yet : - highlights are overexposed 2/3 stops or so - plenty of noise even at ISO 100
The Nokia Camera Pro features are cool.
Shame about the Windows Phone OS, though.
"Shame about the Windows Phone OS, though."
It's only a shame if you're obsessed with apps. Otherwise, it's the best mobile OS going.
Marty4650: Fuji must be following the Microsoft business plan.
They seem to be very fond of marketing products full of bugs, then releasing lots of firmware upgrades ("Service Pack 2?).
Does "Version 1.05" mean that this is the fifth firmware upgrade for this relatively new camera? If so, it makes you wonder why they didn't do a better job testing the camera before release.
Fuji might want to consider making firmware updates into a subscription service. Each time you connect your camera to your computer it checks with headquarters and automatically installs this week's upgrade. The concept seems to be working well for Adobe. :)
Right, and then you'd complain their products are taking too long to release.
It's impossible to write perfect software for the present--now you want it for the future, too?
l_objectif: This is a cheat. This shot was made with Canon; and therefore should be DQ!
The entrant's gallery contains another very similar shot with exif data naming a Canon 600D:
photo perzon: Prices of m4/3 are now twice of DSLRs such as Nikon D3100, 5100 and three times high performance compacts such as the LX7. Then their lenses are also $ 1,000 easy.
photo perzon: knowing you, you'll have two of these next week.
CosmoZooo: The camera I wanted...I am happy and sad. This is what I wanted when I was making my decision btw OMD and NEX-6.
OMD was too expensive and lacked built-in flash. The PENs of the time lacked 5 axis IBIS. I've posted that my perfect PEN would have 5 AXIS IBIS and a built-in flash and a touch screen (as other PENs and OMD already do).
This could have been my perfect camera as coming from P&S I never cared too much for EVF although with my NEX-6 I learned how useful it is especially in bright light.
This looks like a great camera - one I could have picked over the NEX-6 but it's too late now...I am happy for Oly though - I feel like they listened.
I do wonder if movie AF is better then OMD...
Too late? Did you sell your soul or something?
(If not, there's always craigslist. Just sayin'...)
Zvonimir Tosic: I don't understand Olympus. Why they issue an E-Px camera, then also an E-PLx camera which is basically bastardised and cheap E-Px? Why they follow the logic, or the lack of it, of the DSLR manufacturers? For example, why they don't keep the value and the appeal of the E-Px cameras by issuing a separate line of fixed, quality retractable lens cameras with the same sensor and in the similar design (but a camera category that is more like the Coolpix A and Ricoh GR, or even Fuji X100s)? The small form factor of the mirrorless offer would really show its truer potential, and would not devaluate the appeal of the Pen camera. (And then on top those two lines, have an OM-D like offer too). In retrospect, by now they could practically own the market which Fujifilm, Sigma, Nikon ad Ricoh try to create and establish themselves with their fixed-lens, large sensor enthusiast cameras.I appreciate your answers.
Why don't they do a bunch of stuff that only you seem to find value in? I'm not sure why you expect the rest of us to know...
MrTritium: 420g with battery?! The Nex-6 and X-E1 weigh only 350g, and the nex-3n 269g. Is this camera made of LEAD?
Yeah, lead. Plus the best IBIS mechanism on the market, and an (almost undoubtedly) larger & more robust 1/8000 shutter mechanism.
agentul: why are these external EVFs so large? it looks like a smoke stack or one of those huge air intake ducts on old steam ships (except it points backwards here).
this just in: make it wirelessly communicate with Google Glass. that would actually be a redeeming quality for that horrible invention. actually, that could work with other cameras as well - for both film and photo.
I was going to say: "because its view is comparable in size to the OVF in the freakin' Canon 1D-X !"
But then I see that the NEX7 EVF is only a tiny bit smaller. Wow -- how'd they do that?
abortabort: I can't decide what I feel about this camera. On the one hand it measures favourably with the X100S in the E-P5 + 17mm + EVF kit, where it pips the X100S by having interchangeable lenses, WiFi, tilt display and 5-axis IS. I would also wager it has better build quality and 'feel' - as the owner of both an E-P3 and X100.
On the other hand, that is just a butt-load of cash to spend on a Pen. I bought my E-P3, at about 9 months after it was released, with EVF and lens, for $400! They aren't exactly known for holding value.
I will be grabbing the VF4 for sure though!
@Dave: But .. but .. XTRANS! <faint>
Peiasdf: A well put together camera but raises the question why is it the same price as X-E1 yet doesn't come with EVF. Fuji is going for the premium market and have the fast lens lineup to back it up. Very few m4/3 lenses are as fast and as well put together as X lenses yet Olympus feel they should be more premium than Fuji.
Even compares with E-P5's predecessor E-P3, E-P5 is $100 more and without a kit lens. I mentioned in another comment that E-P3 was already overpriced compares with the existing E-PL2 and co-announced E-PL3. Olympus just outdone itself again. The most expensive system camera outside of Leica.
Good to know, Mr. Fuji.
sunnycal: At about the same price, why would anybody want this over OM-D?
... not material to YOU.
So you should have asked, "why would *I* want this over the OM-D?"
(Asked yourself, I mean. In your head. Not here.)
Peiasdf: well, let's see... there's the much faster AF, the IBIS, the 1/8000 shutter, the smaller lenses, more lenses, the faster operation, the wifi...
I take it you're offering to have someone read the article for you and report back? Allow me:
- 1/8000 shutter- ISO 100- Focus Peaking- Even better IBIS- Improved rear screen- WiFi- Built-in flash
If you don't care about weather sealing and prefer / don't mind an external EVF, it's better in every way than the EM5. I guess that's the reason one or two people might buy it?