ptox: Hilariously predictable responses to the high res mode.
Instead of taking it as a cool new feature on top of an already excellent camera, commenters are judging Olympus as though it's trying to market this as a 40MP body--we'd probably see fewer criticisms of the MkII if they'd just excluded the feature altogether.
Nevermind that a 40MP full-color-fidelity mode makes this a monster for most product photography, quite a lot of architecture work, and certain landscapes--and that the camera is a pretty worthy upgrade over the original to boot; no, Olympus is just selling us "gimmicks"...
For a bunch of photographers, there's a distinct lack of imagination here.
The point is that not everyone who _wants_ to do this work has or wants to buy a Hasselblad. (And full color fidelity is an improvement over the D800, so...)
Does this feature mean the EM5II is _equal_ to either of those cameras? No, of course not; but at the very least it adds a significant new creative option for people who are already invested in or thinking about MFT... moreso than any number of new art filters or film simulation modes.
Criticizing Olympus for implementing it is silly.
And as for all the stuck-in-the-past claims of MFT's inferiority to modern APSC cameras -- yes, yes, DXO gives the sensors a score of 7 or 8 below the latest from Nikon, and yes, there's more shadow noise than the very best from Fuji .. but what does that mean in terms of appreciation for the final product, especially when it's from the hands and eyes of a skilled photographer?
Very little at all.
Just consider that MFT today is superior in virtually every IQ respect (and certainly in operational speed and features) to every 35mm pro DSLR from around the time of the 5D Mark 1 and earlier -- ages ago in technological terms, granted, but how many professional photos were taken with that equipment, published across the globe, and enjoyed by millions of viewers?
MFT surpasses the output of those cameras, yet somehow still hasn't reached the special bar required by the more critical in this community?
Hilariously predictable responses to the high res mode.
obsolescence: Marvelous, but who will be left on this ravaged planet to see the pretty pictures, once we have destroyed its habitability? Is this an appropriate use of technology in the face of our planetary emergency? I must conclude that humans are extremely myopic.
I don't disagree with your sentiment, but your implied conclusion - that we should not pursue sophisticated and expensive scientific endeavor until we've secured the ecological future of our planet - may not produce the change you're hoping for.
"whilst in pursuit of good local beer and Goonies filming locations"
On the road leading to the cave used for the pirate ship shoot is the most exquisitely handcrafted artisanally-carved canteen/shoppe/gnome-abode in which the seventeenth-generation proprietors vend a delicately scented pomade expunged in a thirty-day process from antique goat-lard.
The goat-lard pomade is best experienced worn while sipping their equally rare and unique possum-skin-hair-tip iced clementine old-tyme beverage, which they serve in goblets forged from the reclaimed tin of 1957 Coca-Cola cans - itself a sentimental homage to the American soft drink zeitgeist.
This being Oregon, there is always a lineup.
zodiacfml: Seems very low power to me.... limited use.
Well yeah - it's limited to freezing superfast motion. That's kind of the point.
Richard Murdey: Within the criteria dpreview uses to judge cameras, they find the LX100 to be excellent.
Your criteria, my criteria ... might well be different, and in my case they are different. The days when digital cameras can be evaluated in an absolute good-better-best sense are long over. dpreview can rank it silver, gold, platinum or chocolate cream with pink sprinkles for all I care ... all that tells anyone is how much they like it, not how much you should like it.
Reading the comments, some people really need to chill. Personal attacks on the authors for liking a camera more than you do is just way out of line. Unacceptable.
Well, what else should people do with their spare time when they've got a roof over the heads, their bellies are full of food, and no militias prowl their streets?
This is why the West must bring its capitalist democracy to the rest of the world: so that they, too can be free to argue about cameras on the internet.
After all, the rest is taken care of for now and eternity...
Morten Rasmussen: Dpreview are Panasonic fanboys. You should consider this when you read their reviews.
What I mean is;
How come a camera that was launched so recently already gets a review and a very good one, when the Sony a5100, which, I may add, probably blows the LX100 out of the water, and is same size or smaller, doesn't get reviewed.
It's always the same when panasonic ships a new camera Dpreview is right there, but not so much with the other brands. One could get the impression that they benefit somehow.
There's that phrase again - "blows it out of the water".
You'd think that, considering the enormous variety of photographic endeavors and the absolute capability of pretty much every modern camera relative to the entire history of the tool, people would stop using such facile and ultimately pointless cliches.
I guess that's the internet for you - particularly the photographic internet - and extra-particularly DPreview, for whatever reason.
(Oh, and bonus "points" for implying that DPreview is paid to review Panasonic products early - very classy.)
limlh: A good compact apsc mirrorless is not much bigger than this and offers better controls, more DR and lower noise.
What is it about comparisons between the LX100 and APSC mirrorless cameras with single focal length lenses attached? What nonsense.
dwl017: Sorry my Samsung NX300 with 45mm F1.8 prime will blow this thing out of the water. Im sorry but $900 for m4/3 fixed lens is surely a joke. No way in the world with so many other options. You would be better off with a first edition Sony RX100
Any detachable lens alternative is a much better buy.
"Blow this thing out of the water" - cliche much?
The only joke here is your risible comment. Maybe that's why you keep saying "sorry".
kai liu: man, the detail is crazy good at low ISO. High ISO I can see is below average for APS-C camera. ISO 800 already a lot of noise. It is similar to my MFT camera.The 50-150 f2.8 is so goo. F2.8 so sharp.
ChuckTa: that's not a very good example - the image is cropped/downsampled to 1091x1200 and compressed to 280KB.
If there were noise in the original, you'd hardly be able to tell in this version - so whatever you think you're seeing is not a useful indicator of the EM5's performance.
gLOWx: Once again, REAL innovation don't come from Canikon, but from Panasonic, Olympus, Sony and Fuji.FZ1000 was already impressive in bridge.And now this one in compact.
I really want to see some production final samples, because those provided over the net are very inconsistent.Operator error ? Different firmware ? We will see ;)
ThatCamFan: that really chaps your hide, huh?
I mean, nevermind that the camera would have been bigger or the lens slower or otherwise not as versatile... all that matters is that it uses the entire sensor?
Kind of silly to get so worked over what in the end was a simple, pragmatic decision.
Peter Bendheim: The barrel machining and finish looks horrid. The screw area is unpainted or worn. There have always been plenty cheap and nasty optics around, ultimately you get what you pay for.
Maybe the optics are better. But lenses are an investment, bodies are not. I'd rather spend extra for lenses.
"Horrid"? Exaggerate much?
Antonio Rojilla: Or a Sony A6000. With the compact 16-50 they are almost the same size and have almost the same focal length and aperture (well, depending on how you do the calculation anyway). The Sony sensor is not only larger, the Panny is smaller than m43 (the effective area used at least). The lens may be better in the LX100, but the EVF and AF better in the A6000. You also get double the pixels, a tilt LCD, a built-in flash and last but no least a lens mount.
I only see two reasons to get the Panny: 4K, and look and feel, as it is a beautiful camera with some nice retro controls.
"On a sensor about 3 times smaller"
Do you mean the LX100's sensor is 1/3 the area of the A6000's? If so, not so - APSC is ~360 square mm; the LX100 is ~180, or roughly 1/2 the size.
JordanAT: The size advantage of the integral lens is staggering. You might suspect that the interchangeable lens teams are designing to be sold based on weight or volume given the massive size of the optics compared to the on-camera version of the compact cameras. Now, I'll grant you that the optics for the LX-100 are built for a 1.2" sensor instead of a 1.33" sensor, but that 42.5/1.2 fixed lens looks every bit as large as a Nikkor 85/1.4 built for a 2.7" full frame sensor.
For those of us who have abandoned an FX (or DX) with a gaggle of lenses for something jacket-pocket portable, a 4/3 and a lens makes very little sense. I like the idea of a 4/3 mirrorless, but every time I look at the lenses they're either half the speed or twice the size of the fixed compacts.
1.2"? 1.33"? 2.7"? That's an unusual way to refer to sensor sizes...
nerd2: Paying almost $1K for small m43 sensor? No thanks. Also this camera simply shows how overpriced m43 lenses are. They could release separate 28-75 equiv 1.7-2.8 lens for m43 system at around $600 (which will sell well) but they chose not to.
blah blah blah handwaving conjecture uneducated guess blah blah blah
hypo: "the butch high-end compacts that we enjoy today are the grandchildren of the feature-rich ambition that dropped as seeds the day the flower heads of the APS system dried up and died"
That has to be the most wonderful, baroque statement to have appeared in DPR since Phil launched the site.
Even more wonderful because the more often I read it the better it sounds (and makes me smile) and the more I realise I don't have a clue what Damien's talking about.
Well done Damien. I look forward to following your future articles.
Hah! I laughed out loud when I read that line.
eastwestphoto: What has ALWAYS kept me from buying these high end compact zoom digitals is a lack of sunshade & Polarizer ability. The lens cap design prevents practical use of mentioned devices. Personally I have been all over the world watching idiot photographers taking photo's in the most beautiful vista's you have ever seen with these technological machines and smiled ever so dis-believingly at what they were doing? Straight into the sun, WHAT? A zoom lens with floating elements, in 14 groups that doesn't get effected by flare, ghosting; shooting into the sun, or back-lighted situations? Please!, No such animal or multi-coating can overcome refraction off multiple zoom lens surfaces! 50 years ago a photographer or motion picture photographer knew darn well that a SUNSHADE is a must! A old 60 year old folding camera shooting 120 roll film can turn out a better photo, because they had three lens elements and used a sunshade.
The LX100 has filter threads, so you can use a polarizer. I guess you could use a hood, too, if you can find one that fits the threads...
cjnielsen_nz: I deliberately did *not* check the box that offers to add me to the mailing list for 'tips' however moments after beginning the download I received an email with 'Congratulations! You’re signed up to receive the latest news, promotions and tips from Olympus'
F you Olympus! NOT happy.
O wizened keeper of internet lore, thank thee for the object lesson in false equivalency - nay! non sequitur; now I also can say "I was there", when the mother of all irrelevancies was given forth unto this forum, amen.
Boxbrownie: Looks like a very interesting/nice camera......just one thing......it looks bloomin' awfull with that skinny little lens barrel extended......very embarressing :))
Embarrassing? Like it reminds you of a weenie? (Tee hee! Camera looks like weenie!)