Serious Sam: It wouldn’t be a Sony thread if people are not complaining about the lens line up.
In my opinion it is likely there is not enough finance resource to develop a new FF body and high quality optics hence they leave the job to Zeiss. Then there is the challenge of keeping the lens small. People already complain the size of the F4 70-200, imagine that lens at 2.8
One would argue that the others are doing it ok.
Lets start with Fuji, they have been making lens for 80 year so optics is not a problem for them, they just have to work out the sensor. Which is X-trans and its working out quite well for them.
Then there is M43. Well they have two and a half company work on this system. Panasonic, Olympus and the half is Leica. Therefore the system evolution is much easier. Just look at the two 2.8 zoom from Panasonic...remarkable engineering.
Actually the Sony a-mount 70-200 f/2.8 G SSM is not much bigger than the E-mount 70-200 f/4 G. The only real difference is the weight!
I think you need to review the Alpha 77 II before you make any photos with this camera!
Donnie G: I was convinced that I wasn't among the consumers that Canon's G7 X was made for because I have never been interested in owning any compact camera. Boy was I wrong. Although I have no interest in owning compact cameras, my teens are very interested in the category, and I am their "deep pockets". So I wound up buying 2 G7 X cameras, one for him and one for her. Between the 2 of them, they were able to setup the cameras without any input from "the broke old guy". After about 10 days, my gorgeous gal pal, Brandi, and I were able to decipher enough teen slang to learn that the camera features they worship the most are the programable click wheel around the lens collar, the articulated touch screen, and the ability to upload images to social media via Canon's Image Gateway service. I don't think that these kids are even aware of the other features, such as sensor size, lens speed, focal length, or even IQ. It takes better photos than their smartphones and their friends think its cool. :)
Why buy a product just because of the brand name. It only tells that one are driven by commercials and brand recognition rather than the quality and performance of a product.
As much as I think Sony makes great products I don't buy any of their products if I find them worse than a competing product from an other company.
tabloid: I think apple does a pro service…but you have to pay for it.
I use a A65 and as a full time professional photographer…Its more than ample for what I need.
There is no such thing as a "pro camera" .There is a simply camera that a professional photographer find adequate for the job.
I completely agree with you!. Also some Pros only have one body!! Lets see how the pro support will be in Europe. Hope it will be better!!
Greetings from a poor semi pro who only owns one FF body.
Bhima78: This looks good for professionals that are already shooting with lots of Canon glass... to the budding professional, this price point puts it squarely against the A7S with the 4K addon. Pretty sure the A7S with that addon will absolutely mop the floor with this though. Of course, maybe the A7S has more rolling shutter and this has none. Someone that is actually a videographer, chime in as to why you would buy this other than owning Canon glass already, over the alternatives (especially the A7S with the add-on).
Here in Denmark the national TV DR tv they use mostly Sony cams with fujinon or canon lenses. Sony is a big player in the TV industry. Several movies are shot with Sony too....
To all the guys claiming they have a lens mounts that has wiggle. It's rotational wiggle you have. If it were axial it would ruin your photos because of a massive lightleak made by the axial play. The rotational wiggle is there also on a-mount and dosent mean a thing unless the tolerances are exceeded.
ChiTown1200: My A7 that was purchased right at the release time most certainly has a lot of wiggle in the mount with the 24-70 lens on it. I double checked all the fasteners on the camera and lens, nothing loose. It doesn't seem to effect the excellent images this combo makes, but it is kind of annoying. I very well might buy this product, just for piece of mind of fixing a problem that's not really a problem.
The wiggle you see are rotational and is there because of the tolerance on the lock nut. There is nothing wrong with that. But if you had any axial wiggle you would not be able to take photos without light leaking into the kamera and it would ruin your photos.
rwbaron: Appears to be a really poor design by Sony especially on a camera in this price range. What were they thinking?
It's not true that the lens mount can flex because of the plastic shim between the outer mount flange and the body. The plastic shim is so thin and the weight distribution so big that in no way the shim will flex. I am a Technical Designer so I hope I know what I talk about.
If it does flex it's less than 0.01mm.
Joe Ogiba: "Director Featured in Canon Ad Says He Used Sony, Tells Canon to Get ‘Its Facts Right’"http://petapixel.com/2014/10/10/director-featured-canon-ad-says-used-sony-tells-canon-get-facts-right/
It looks like Canon opened a can of worms with this ad campaign.
It's so funny!
Andy Dan: DXO test, that's what the reporter was refering to. I agree with Maeda regarding DR. Few people use a camera at ISO 100/200 only. Sony sensors have an advantage in the ISO 100-400 range. From ISO 400 to 3200 no one has a big advantage (better results for Sony at ISO 400 and better results for Canon at ISO 3200). From ISO 3200 Canon sensors have a big advantage. So overall sensors are evenly matched.
So, for landscape Sony sensors are the best right now. For various genres of photography at various ISO settings (architecture, travel, portraiture, macro, street) and low-light work Canon sensors are the best. Also Canon is better for sports and most professional sport shooters are using Canon because of the speed. Considering Canon outsells both Nikon and Sony it seems that even from an financial pov mr. Maeda is right.
You forget the ugly pattern noise of the canon and that the Sony have much better DR at low ISO and not much worse at high ISO. In a fact I think you can push the high ISO files from Sony more than a canon file.
I think most people usually shoots at 100-800 ISO or even 100-400. P.S. my 5 year old a900 has better shadow noise at low ISO than 5D MkIII when you push the shadows!
kevin_r: I'm just getting this definite impression that Amazon/Dpreview is at loggerheads with Sony.They seem to be sending a message that Sony will be treated with scorn and contempt unless Sony ponies up some moolla somewhere.Why do I say this?Look at the treatment the Sony A77 mark II is getting even though it has been out on the market since August already.Then, this specific article is clearly sending the message - "Oh, sorry, we didn't see you there - your cubicle was so small and unnoticeable....!"
Great way to go, guys. Keep it up. Sony will soon cave in and spend some moolla as required.
Imaging-resource has just now posted a shooters report part 1 about the a77 MkII. But they don't have a review either. The writer of the shooters report found the A77 MkII to be a worthy upgrade of his guess what Canon 7D ;-)
IMHO I find the a77 MkII to be more exciting than the Canon 7D MkII but I bet we will see a 7D MkII review before we see an A77 MkII review. Isen't it right?
ozturert: Sony's head is so mixed that he cannot summarize their strategy in one sentence. Tell me about Alpha, NEX, E, EF, A cameras. How can I tell the difference between A77 and A7R, or will A mount be supported in the future, and if we see curved sensor in A cameras (ex-NEX) will we have to buy new lenses and adapters (as we had to when A7's came out), etc..Sony needs to make-up their mind and stay consistent for 3 consecutive years to make their users fell comfortable. Right now Sony is all around the place and I cannot understand their long-term strategy."Trying to be the best" is not a strategy.
They are not all over. They are starting a new system with the FE mount which is identical to the E-mount, and then they have the A-mount. And adapters makes use of A-mount lenses on FE-mount possible.
Markol: So much better than the Nikon guy. Sony might not have the reputation yet but it seems they are doing a lot of things right in the imaging industry, contrary to some other areas like consumer electronics.At any rate, it's good to have another serious contender in the game. Some other companies really have their heads in their behinds, like Nikon or Olympus.
Completely right. Sony are innovative and has a passion for photography!! And he was very honest too.
This interview shows the lack of innovative spirit at Nikon. But maybe they have something up their sleeve. I interesting that say mirrorless has grown thanks to Sony.
You should review the Sony A77 MkII instead of a small boring news post about the 7D MkII. The A77 MkII is a close competitor to the 7D MkII and has an advanced AF system to. Actually it has more AF points than the 7D MkII. IQ wise i think the Sony wins because of a superior sensor.
But anyway it would be nice to compare those two cameras.
Cartagena Photo: I hope they managed to make a better phone thatthan the 3 different Z2 i had. The camera was a joke since it overheated after a short time shooting stills or video. 4K was a joke since it heated up like mad. But at least you could cook your eggs on it ;-)
Great to hear they solved the problem. I had 3 in about 2 months and they diden't manage to solve the overheating along with other issues while I had it. I now have the Galaxy S5 and it works great.
I shoot with Sony Alpha cameras A900 and A700 and have Sony Stereo and TV and they never let me down except for the a700 once.
I hope they managed to make a better phone thatthan the 3 different Z2 i had. The camera was a joke since it overheated after a short time shooting stills or video. 4K was a joke since it heated up like mad. But at least you could cook your eggs on it ;-)
EthanP99: why not have Sony's xperia z2 tablet instead? Its thinner, lighter and WATERPROOF
After having 3 different Sony Xperia Z2 smartphones all with trouble such as overheating, dust inside the camera lens, unsharp photos, lousy call quality, several software bugs etc. I would not own a Xperia product for the next many years. And I have Sony alpha 900, sony tv, hifi etc.
It's optional and you have to pay extra to get a battery. It's just like a Mercedes everything costs extra ;-)
utomo99: Samsung need to optimize all the code (for phone and tablet) so it can be faster and smoother. Many people complain the UI make slow. Also Samsung need to update the OS to kit kat for galaxy tab 3 family, S4 and other
Well I liked the new KitKat on my S4. It was faster and could handle more open apps with the KitKat update. My new Sony Xperia runs smoother but the samsung s4 was more completed software wise.