pwmoree: So 1000 euro equals 1390 usdollar. Why is this lens 39 percent more expensive here in Europe? The 390 $ difference almost buys you a plane ticket to the USA to go and get one and have a weekend in NY included..
You are not comparing like-for-like. The US price is before sales tax while the European price includes VAT.
US Sales tax is going to run you from 0 to 8+% and VAT in Europe is going to be somewhere in the 18-23% range, depending on country. When you take that into consideration the prices become much closer. Europe is still more expensive, but not by as great a margin as you present.
ManuelVilardeMacedo: Now everybody listen to my impersonation of a famous DPR commenter:'It is really a 75mm-f/4.2 lens. Manufacturers are such cheaters.'Thank you ladies anf gentlemen.
See, I told ya.The guy is like a moth to a flame.
Now, if we could only get him to get closer...closer...just a bit more...a little more...come on, just a bit closer...
We must be talking about our good friend yak blow me, sorry, meant yabokkie.
SunnyFlorida: Memo to Panny - Fuji 56mm F/1.2 APS-C lens is $600 cheaper, good luck selling these
You know after reading your post I said "he's so right" and I ran out and bought that Fuji lens and saved myself $600!
Oh, wait, I own a m4/3 camera and that "inexpensive" Fuji is actually a very expensive paper weight.
This pathetic recurring argument of X is so much cheaper than Y even though X isn't actually comparable to Y because they are for two different systems is so assinine.
It's kinda like saying that the engine pistons for a Toyota are so much cheaper than those of a BMW - problem is they are useless for the BMW and thus its an irrelevant comparison.
Owen: I think the one that wasn't done, that stands out in my mind, is a still taken from the Kennedy assassination where his wife Jackie is reaching back to help the Secret Service to get onboard the Limo.
By the way, the gruesome description in my post is not made up. It is what has been said about the event by the people who were there. It's not intended as a snarky retort.
Except she's not trying to help them get on the limo. She is in shock an reaching back to try and get a piece of the President's skull that ended up on the trunk of the car (gruesome, I know).
Michael J Davis: Great review. Would have liked some more comment on use of evf with glasses (I think another reviewer suggested that the whole screen wasn't visible).
Since you derive income from Amazon - can I object to an offer of £656.72 from them (body only), which is nearly £100 more (£751.01) when I click on their web site? That's frankly misleading!
The Amazon UK site does have it offered at £656, it just isn't through Amazon's own distribution. Amazon can sell it to you for £751 from their own distribution and warehouse. But there are other suppliers on their site who can sell it to you for less - the lowest one being £656.72.
My camera bag fell out of the trunk of my car last weekend and now my GX1 seems dead. I haven't given up hope yet that it will come to life, but after seeing this new toy I am not sure I want it to :-)
solarider: Hello and greets,
My Q's to DPR staff,TIA!:
To what degree would Olympus brand lenses function with the GX7? Is there significant loss of function in some way? Bad idea?
Does panning work with IBIS or is there need to disable IBIS? Would a camera like the GX7 even be doable for BIF's?
What degree of tracking is working with this camera if any? Bad choice for BIF's?Are any of the mft's cameras even close to being BIF-able :-p ? probably barking up the wrong tree. Nevertheless, what long lenses would be usable for bif on this cam?
I've read marvelous things about Olympus making the very best lenses out of Japan, how do the Panasonic lenses compare?
Olympus m4/3 are completely adapted to the Panasonic (especially now that it has IBIS). That's the beauty of m4/3 - the lenses are interchangeable amongst formats (with some limitations in the cases of Panny lenses with built in OIS).
dougster1979: This is a great price if you are in the US. To add insult, they actually priced it £800, just to remind you you`re getting completely shafted in the UK. That`s $1256 at today's exchange rate!!!!!!
The lens is being sold in the UK on-line for £649 while at B&H in the US it goes for $799. When you take out the 20% VAT in the UK, you will see that they are currently selling (pre-tax) at similar levels. The US price does not include sales taxes that often have to be added on and can be as high as 8-9% more.
3dreal: Why sony-alpha? Because sigma seems to build sony-lenses for sony(the company).
It is fine to have such a speedy lens. But when it comes to quality then the new zeiss will beat them all. Distagon 55/1.4 to be the first, at 3000 euro for each of them.
It's fine to have such a speedy Volkswagen Golf (at $30,000), but the new Ferrari's will beat them all. The GT50 to be the first at $150,000.
Absurd comparison, isn't? Well, so is the comparison in your post.
Frederik Paul: So what? Pretty straightforward...
It must really suck being you and having to go through life bitter and needing to denigrate simply because you apparently lack the ability to contribute anything meaningful.
Erez, thank you for sharing your image, methods and experience.
Ignore the people who fancy themselves as "art" critics and photo experts rather than focusing on the purpose of the article, which is to help educate people on techniques and approaches to photography.
I like the image and more importantly, I learned from the techniques you took the time and effort to share (the same goes for your macro articles which I also enjoy). Thanks.
nathantw: I'm a bit embarrassed to ask but I don't know the answer and knew you folks would. Are all mirrorless mounts universal? Would lenses that fit on a Panasonic fit onto a Sony or Olympus? Most of the time when looking at new lenses for a mirrorless camera a mount isn't ever mentioned and that's the reason why I ask.
No, most mirrorless systems are unique and similar to DSLR's in that each brand has it's own mount.
The one exception that I am aware of is micro four thirds. Both Panasonic and Olympus make cameras in this format and their lenses (as well as those of third party manufacturers who make lenses with this mount) are interchangeable.
In addition to the Oly and Panasonic lenses, Sigma makes a few lenses, Leica makes one and there are few other less known brands. For micro four thirds you can also buy adapters that will let you use just about any major lens made for any other camera system, but in manual mode.
I had never read these before - they're great. I have gone to the original website and have started reading them from the first one in 2006.
Damn, DPR is up to 3,000 posts (in two threads) in 48 hours!
Let the slugfest continue.
Hope you're enjoying the positive PR Adobe - not!
rhlpetrus: Please clarify this statement:
"Monthly subscribers can go for as long as 30 days without connecting to the Internet for license validation. Users with an annual commitment can go for as long as 99 days."
One thing is license validation, another is if you can actually work offline for 30 days. Is the latter also true?
Yes. The software resides on your computer and works like any other stuff installed on your computer.
It periodically checks - via web - that you have an up to date license. If within the 30 days (in the case of monthly contracts) it cannot check you have a valid license the software stops working.
1500 comments in 24 hrs. This must be a new record.
And 99.9% seem to be against Adobe's new pricing scheme. As someone else already notes, this much agreement on DPR must also be a first.
Professionals who make their living from using these programs - using them daily - won't likely have that much of a problem with the scheme (or at least may ultimately find that it works for them). Those who are most affected are the amateurs and enthusiasts who take pictures when they can and play with them when time allows.
I may go for months without taking a picture or having time to review and fix them up on PS, Lightroom or whatever. I suspect that many other people fit this same profile. For us, this model makes no sense and will ultimately drive us to other solutions that aren't a constant drain on the bank account.
It's sort of like cable or health clubs. There comes a point when one realises that they are not really using the subscription enough and forego it all together.
ZAnton: I don't see much sense in that expenive lenses for m43. For a FF or APS-C you get those lenses for 1/3 of the price, why on earth does this thing cost 550 Euro? It is smaller (less glass), it is for smaller sensor (you dont have problems in corners as on FF), there is no stabilisation, but yet this simplest prime costs more than a camera...I have FF and m43, but untill prices on m43 lenses will stay unconnected to reality, I will continue to broaden my FF lens collection, while Oly Pen will live with its kit lens.
You know people, it isn't written anywhere that if you like photography you have to be ignorant in economics. It is actually OK for you to read and learn a bit instead of spouting off irrational comments about price.
It is very simple - think of it as economic 101 - a manufacturer will produce the goods at the lowest price possible and which still allows him to meet his product offering objective (in this case a 17mm f1.8). He will sell it at the highest price the market will accept.
You can't afford or don't find interest in this product at that price, don't buy it. If enough people follow your lead, it will drop in price or disappear. However, if other people buy it in sufficient quantity the manufacturer will keep selling it at that price.
The cost of the raw materials for the lens are only a small part of the pricing decision - it serves to set a bottom price threshold, nothing more. They don't care that you think it ain't worth €550 as long as others do.
Hugo808: I bet my photo's will still be crap...
Ya gotta love honesty.