Amazing! The Canon 5DR RAW files are smaller than Nikon D810.I am imressed with the color rendition from Canon 5DR, too. Something different in the blue and yellow/orange segment.But the price is indeed too high for now.
mariuss: This is not a landscape camera! We, the landscapers, are not stupid. Megapixel is nice, but we were waiting for more DR! Its easier to made a panorama from 5 single shots, as 3x3(3 for HDR) shots because of lack of DR. Same Dynamic Range as 5D Mark 3. According to DXO, 5D3 has even less DR as 5D2! In other words, this 5DS(r), has less DR as a 6 years old Canon(!) camera. And this should be a landscape camera?! ... no way!Through this 5DS, the sony a7r and nikon d810 are shining like never before!
"According to Canon Europe, much lower noise floor."How should i understand this?! Clean blacks, without(or less) noise? Or, greater DR expectation after all?
This is not a landscape camera! We, the landscapers, are not stupid. Megapixel is nice, but we were waiting for more DR! Its easier to made a panorama from 5 single shots, as 3x3(3 for HDR) shots because of lack of DR. Same Dynamic Range as 5D Mark 3. According to DXO, 5D3 has even less DR as 5D2! In other words, this 5DS(r), has less DR as a 6 years old Canon(!) camera. And this should be a landscape camera?! ... no way!Through this 5DS, the sony a7r and nikon d810 are shining like never before!
VictorR: Guys, can anyone tell me why this camera is so ridiculously heavy? Even full frame Nikon D750 is 20% lighter than this APS-C one ( 910 g vs 750 g) Just because of this factor alone 7D MII looks and feels outdated. Not to mention other ridiculous drawbacks detailed below by many people. It look like this camera was supposed to replace original 7D after two years of its release but for some reason has been released just now.... Shame on Canon for releasing such camera in the end of 2014. Just like someone mentioned below, Canon is not only harming its own brand, but the category of DSLR as itself...
Maybe is a marketing trick. Now, Canon can say: "Look our 7D Mark II is heavier but costs less than Nikon D750 wich is lighther but it costs more than our Canon" ... or maybe there are using more gold for electrical circuits.
bronxbombers4: Thinking about lack of 4k, since it arrives at $1799 instead of the rumored $2100-2500 price range I guess that explains the lack of 4k.
And perhaps the lower cost will increase sales more than 4k + higher price would have for this model. (the parts cost would've been almost the same, since it already has all the power, but in terms of tiering I guess they felt it too early to be the first to put high quality 4k under 2k in a dslr).
I just hope the 5D4 has 4k though.
jpr2there is a button for video ... just dont use it.
Marcelobtp: This 7DII should have been launched last year as people say, but what the problem?Its a sport, wildlife photographers camera, the lack of 4k video is not that bad...This is the best you can get in crop sensors today. Very good camera!
Canon says:"The EOS 7D Mark II will appeal particularly to sports and wildlife photographers and with filmmakers thanks to Dual Pixel CMOS AF technology and a host of other movie making features that fit into their workflow."... so it is aiming at filmmakers too. For now i dont need 4K Video ... but in one year? Maybe. In 3 years ... for sure! In 5 years ...
CBuff: A decade ago, Nikon had the best bodies, and Canon the best sensors (CMOS, full frame...). How things have changed!! I still love my canon optics, but since i am not an action shooter, i am still waiting. Maybe PMA.
The thing is that every camera can be calibrated then use this profile in PS or Lightroom. I calibrated my 5D II, too, despite the fact that is a Canon camera ...
Luuger: What was needed for the 7D mII:- 4K Video- Full frame- Wifi- Flexible screen- Touch screen- Resolution increase- Great AF- Better quality Sensor
What Canon brought was able to deliver:- Great AF
IMHO the responsible product developer should be fired immediately unless he had orders from above. Canon is not only harming its own brand, but the category of DSLR as itself.
Full frame or better a 1.3x factor sensor.
3 years ago ... maybe. 2014 -> boring.I'll pass.
Sadly, its name ist not ... Canon 7D II.I would like to have this camera with Canon lens.
Jan Bohme: Looking into the forum section of dpreview for the first time in a long while, I immediately realised why I quit posting in the first place: There is nothing ever as pig-headed as a photographer involved in a discussion who is wrong. :)
The legal issue is crystal clear: If the animal, as Slater claims, has pushed the trigger and pointed the camera by its own free will, that is the core creative moment, and Slater can't have copyright. Because it is not human, nor can the monkey. If we just discuss de lege lata - i.e. discuss the law as it stands - there is nothing more to discuss. While it is technically correct to say that the rulings of the US Copyright Office are only legally binding inside the US, there is nothing bizarre or outlandish in neither the US copyright legislations, or the specific ruling at hand, in this matter. The ruling will be the same in most, and very possibly all, countries signatory to the Berne convention.
I thought "the creative moment" begins with, choosing:- the right place- the right lens- the right focal distance- the right camera settings (ISO, Aperture, Time, etc)- etc.and ending with "pointing to" and "pushing the trigger" ... or not?!
Aren't "produced" and "pushed the trigger" something ... different?!
A monkey is just another animal ... even one who can take a photo ... Darwin would be very "pleased" with this statement :)
"Works produced by mechanical processes or random selection without any contribution by a human author are not registrable"
Well:- who own the camera?- who turned ON the camera?- who choose the lens for the camera?- who choose the focal distance? - who inserted the memory in the camera? - who setted up the camera for shooting (even if this was an Automatic setting)?- who processed the photo?- who published the photo?
I think, so long as the monkey has nothing against it ... the answer is clear for this issue.
jml2061: This isn't much different from the laws that have been in effect in Germany for almost as long as there is photography.
As in the case of Hungary, this law was originally not intended to protect individuals but powerful men and women, police officers, and other public servants from repercussions of someone recording their misdeeds. It was originally passed because Paparazzi had photographed the body of Chancellor Bismarck lying in wake and could not be forced to not publish the results.
Germans have adapted. It's a massive issue for street and architecture photographers and there's constant legal wrangling about what the law precisely means and allows or not, but we do what Hungarians will do, likely, too - we go to Austria to get street shots :)
I am pretty sure in Germany you are allowed to take pictures without permission (in public places), or not!?. It is not allowed to publish them without permission. The same is the case in Austria. In Austria i can sue you if you take a picture with me and you publish it without my permission if this is the case of "right on my own image" (recht am eigenen bild). And I can sue you anyway if you make money with my image without my permission.
lacix: Hey you s holes.... Do anybody want me to prove that you all have it wrong!I can go out taking photos today and post it for public!But than, all you have to shoot your stupid mouth up and apologize for stirring sh..t!Waiting for challenge!
"As I said: this topic is covered by similar laws in Germany."Really? Have You a proof for this assumption?
role_of_72: Google has hard time to translate from Hungarian so here's my NOT official translation of the quoted part (I'm Hungarian so I understand it):
2:48. Law about image and sound recording(1) To record and use an image or sound recording of somebody you need the consent of the given person.(2) Consent of the affected person is not required in the case of recording groups (calls them here as 'mass') and on public events.
My comment on it:This law is 'vague' as you say as all of our recent laws. The reason for it is that the governing politicians reserve the right for the authorities (=themselves) to interpret the laws according their interest.
One thing is sure: they don't have to apply this law but if they choose to do so, you have no chance to protect yourself if you're sued.
It looks than, that Hungary has a unique position on this in EU.I wish there were a single law for whole EU in this matter.
"To record and use" ... how about only record it?
"Allowed" and "can" is here the same?
It is a little bit weird how/from where the sunlight comes (see nr. 8) ... but actually it doesnt matter ... they are all amazing!