paul simon king: This really is a quite exceptionally high quality review. Thank you for all your effort!:D
Might not be for you then;)
This really is a quite exceptionally high quality review. Thank you for all your effort!:D
paul simon king: I have asked at the shop and looked online but can't find out what the 35mm (FF) 'lens equivalent' of the whole of the OVF is
i.e. what is the AOV of the OVF and what lens focal length does it relate to?
In the blurb it says 29.1mm, but that makes no sense as thats the AOV of around 70-85mm FL I think
I assumed it would be proud 24mm lens in 35 (FF)mm format but I can't see anything definitive on this anywhere
had another look at one in the shop and AFAICS with the 18 or 35 (f1.4) lenses on the amount of VF you can see at a glance without twisting one's eye or head is actually equivalent to the bright frame of the 18mm lens almost exactly
Short of having eyes on stalks I don't see how the image outside the 18mm bright frame would be any usable advantage to anyone
So really AFAICS it is effectively an 18mm OVF - that is not what I was expecting. Not so impressed really. Perhaps theres something I haven't understood about how to use it but I found the shop fellow a little patronising and difficult to question.
Sannaborjeson: Did anyone use it?Any advantages over Lightroom + RNI BW Films presets?
thanks for comments: ColourEfex has a 'tonal contrast' filter which is equally as useful in mono or colour. II use frequently for mono. Don't think Nik SEP has the same filter.
Iv'e not found SEP to be better than LR, in fact I find the controls in LR more intuitive and for global effects easier to gauge and use. Not found anything in Nik that I couldn't do in LR (yet)
I realise that really it's a personal choice and for me it probably bills down to UI as much as anything as the other (processing) differences are minimal IMO
Having said that Im very happy to try anything out if I can get better or easier results that way
thanks for the replies greybalanced. Interesting.
Have you ever compared Tonality with Nik colorFX and the 'tonal contrast' effect/filter? I find it's the only filter in the whole Nik collection that I use with any regularity (usually right at end of workflow). I have tried Topaz clarity too but don't notice enough difference generally to bother firing it up from LR
Certainly I am doing a LOT more in LR now than I used to where I used to do nearly everything in photoshop.
Certainly I can see room in LR for a few more tools for GLOBAL tweaks but without layers/masks there's only so much can be done globally (without resorting to the little adjustment tools in which, unless very quick fixes, case might as well use Photoshop)
I'll check Tonality out-cheers
" because LR just does not provide the same level of granularity over tonal quality." - what does that mean?
Niko Tod: The patch doesn't work for CS6.
you're right - it doesn't- there is the usual suggestion to uninstall /reinstall, apply hand brake, stand on your head and turn around three times .. repeat the process another three times and sing a shanty whilst balancing a teacup on your head....but I just don't have time for all that Rollocks;)
Dirk Nuary: Every camera geeks here. Please tell me what's the difference between Adobe Camera Raw and Photoshop Lightroom when it comes to RAW editing. What's the advantage between the two? I'm already used Photoshop Lightroom and expect to use ACR.
LIGHT ROOM/ACR is best for global non destructive adjustments Photoshop is better for pixel level changes.
thx1138: Did they fix the useless colour profiles for Canon 5Ds(R), which are ridiculously overly contrasty. I'll bet not.
but you can get a plug in from MadManChan which corrects it
Its on the adobe help forums somewhere
paul simon king: For the X-pro to be perfect (for what it is: i.e. an OVF rangefinder) for me, all it needs is fast AF, a shutter speed dial, and ISO setting (somewhere, anywhere), aperture settings on the lens, and a rear LCD with a decent histo, and review, great film emulations and a sensor the will let me print A2 at excellent quality
The widest lens I'll want to use with it is 35mm (50mm equiv in 35mm format )
everything else is just buttons getting in the way of my largish hands - thus they are the only things preventing this camera from actually being absolutely perfect for me
Calvin Chann, yeah but as Im not buying it for anyone else.......;)
the thing that keeps catching me out is the shutter button, it is much more sensitive than the 5D2, with very little difference between half press for AF etc and shutter actuation.
Still learning and yes I know - use the cable release - all the same....:)
so the 16mm f1.4 fuji lens I have my eye on would fill that pretty much?
didn't know about that magnifier thing either!:)
I have asked at the shop and looked online but can't find out what the 35mm (FF) 'lens equivalent' of the whole of the OVF is
sure - not saying its unusable just I'd rather they weren't there, then I woyuldnt have to avoid them__ especially the one at the top of where my thumb sits
For the X-pro to be perfect (for what it is: i.e. an OVF rangefinder) for me, all it needs is fast AF, a shutter speed dial, and ISO setting (somewhere, anywhere), aperture settings on the lens, and a rear LCD with a decent histo, and review, great film emulations and a sensor the will let me print A2 at excellent quality
Looca: Since Sony A7 series came out, I really consider this fuji cameras to be unexplainably pointless at this price. I really see no reason why would anyone buy an aps-c camera for 1.699 today... except that he likes the look of the camera and that is it.
that saves you having to spend hours sussing out the specs and comparing it then doesn't it?:)
interesting comment about auto ISOkilling the ISO dial...perhaps a future firmware could allow it to assign Fn function s to each ISO (until they change the dial graphics in X-pro 3)
THAT would be cool:)
Arizona Sunset: In summary, here are the reasons to buy the X-Pro2 for video:
- Cool picture profiles
And the reasons to skip the X-Pro2 if you care about video:
- Moire city- No IBIS for Fuji's lovely primes- No 4k- No high frame rates- Jumpy PDAF- Jumpy ISO transitions- Noisy autofocus and IS in all Fuji lenses
fortunately I don't care two hoots about video
I do wonder what percentage of video shooters actually need 4K though, I bet most of it ends up on Youtube or other social media.
gbdz: Are those shoes Tiger of Sweden? I think I have the same.
I can't wear off the peg Brogues, tried them all.Would need to get my own last made. The only shoes that fit me of the peg are flippers!
handy for swimming, though not so popular at dinner do's
MikeF4Black: So this is a great, really great camera. Except for the fact that its viewfinder is useless at some commonly used focal lenghts.
So, not really the demise of the single lens reflex camera then, more like the death of the pseudo rangefinder.
I really (want to) like this camera but, seriously, viewfinder inadequacy at 85mm eq focal length?
Now pull the other one.
It's been designed as a rangefinder not a DSLR replacement. No rangefinder does well with long lenses.