jadmaister2: I don't feel that we, or Nikon, should stick our heads in the sand on the flare issue. I have looked at the 4 or 5 sites that carfully document this problem, and show some home made solutions, but the conclusion can ONLY be, IMO, that Nikon have a careless production line which is (maybe by now 'was') allowing through a number of 750's with badly mounted sensors. When such a camera is used with the light source just out of shot above the frame, the banding occurs.If your sample is better aligned, I'm glad, but it is exactly sites such as DpReview that should allow the buying public to alert Nikon to the issue and force a correction.It's a wonderful camera, but it is ludicrous to buy a product that contains a potential fault.As a Nikon owner of long standing, I may add that I'm ashamed by Nikon's poor response to the issue.
HowaboutRAW, everybody keeps telling all cameras has flare problem but there are others who says the D750 problem is different. I seen you argue about it but these are experienced photographers. I'm sure they know the difference. I don't have the D750 to test, so I can't say how bad is D750's bad. I have a 6D and tried it, other than typical flare I can't make the D750 block line flare.See this one from one guy who compared D750 with D600 (mind you the D600 shows some spots on the shots): www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKxrzX2bFvM
Piermario Autelli: Now we need to find a way to try unique flare in DSRL:One body, opal lamp 100 watt white 33 cm from the bayonet - ISO 100, 1/30 time and then see flare in the car, do this for Canon, Pentax, Nikon etc.etc. Then we finally happy and fulfilled - Peace and good.
I tried it with my 6D. typical flare but not the block line flare seen in those D750 videos. Anyway, I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to replicate the D750 issue. That's for the D750 folks time spent. I'm sure others will find some form flare in other bodies.
musicianseye: I bought my 750 today at a local dealer here in Munich, who told me, if the problem appears, they will send the camera back and they will test all the 750 in their shop until they find a good one for me. So I think, if you have a good dealer in town, its time to support them and not buy grey market cameras or online. You just pay a little more, but you get a better and faster service. Until now they told me, they had just one returned, so obviously there are quite a lot of good cameras there. On the other hand I agree to some comments here. Quality control could be better at Nikon.
It's safer purchase if you buy the camera via you local dealer. Yes, there are some who may not have a local dealer. if you're going to buy online at least buy it in the same country (your residence) where you might be protected by local regulation. For me, if i'm going to buy a camera at this price point I would rather buy it at my local dealer.
Hedley7d: 2.5K Raw video with 7D and Magic Lantern. Mind Blowing !https://vimeo.com/71915327
Video and 4K Video is a matter for videographer. Majority who buys this are going to buy this for still shots. the video feature in this camera is like 'by the the way it can do video' feature. I use video feature in my DSLR sometimes and I don't expect it to 'shine'. if serious videographer buys this camera and complains about the video feature (especially 4K) this means the person has made a wrong choice. Yes, you can make a lot of noise about it but Canon is not going give you this. They'll say spend the money on our Cinema EOS. They may offer a new firmware in the near future for 4K thing but this is their business model as of today. Companies like Canon and Sony do consult their pro user base. They would change their business model or they would have gone out of business a long time ago. I have heard this so many times, Canon is not innovating and they'll go out of business but they are still here today.
Sad Joe: Sadly the brand new D750 appears to have the same quality control issues that forced the D600 out of the market. Given some of the very negative comments expressed you’d think that Nikon had set out to TRICK people into buying a naff camera – this is ridiculous- I feel sorry of the early users of the D750 who may or may not have this problem. I NEVER buy a new camera upon launch as 1: They often contain faults/ bugs 2: The price ALWAYS comes DOWN given a few months. Nikon need to man up and get this sorted FAST – the D600 did a lot of damage to Nikon’s reputation. Me – this Christmas I’m shooting with a 1977 Nikkormat FT2 (film of course) a Canon EOS-M (so much better than you would expect and the bargain of 2013/ 14) and a NEXUS table – whatever foalts ya boat people- its the final result that counts....
Sandy b, it looks like you're trying to reproduce the issue. if you can't replicate it means you might have a good copy. Enjoy the camera. You're not going to enjoy taking shots with worry feelings, expecting it to fail.
HowaboutRAW, I think (just my opinion) Nikon would have offered a free inspection for D750 if it was a pro grade body, similar to what Canon did - they offered free inspection for 5D3 with the light leak issue.
ecube: What differentiate a "Professional grade" from an "Enthusiast grade" camera?As I recall, The National Geographics Magazine use the Nikon D1 or perhaps the D2X for the Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird article in 2004 or 2005. The D2X had a whopping 12.4 mega-pixel. At that time, the D2X was considered one of the two top of the line Professional DSLR Cameras.
Comparing the specs of D2X and D750, it seems to me that D750 has much more advance features and certainly better IQ than the D2X. The D2X has a DX sensor and DX lenses while the D750 has Full Frame 24+ mega pixel sensor and uses FX lenses. Dynamic range, ISO sensitivity, wider shutter speed ranges, etc. That said, why does DPReview label D750 a mere enthusiasts camera when it clearly far better than the Professional Grade D2X?
Canon Australia has a CPS program and one needs to purchase a 1 or 5 series body plus some L lenses and be a professional to qualify. Heard 7D2 may be added into this list. With a CPS Gold Membership ($100/y) you receive:A repair turnaround time of 72 hours in housePick up and delivery one-way at Canon's costA 30% discount on parts and labourBack up equipment, like for likeEvaluation equipment - subject to availabilityInternational support*5 clean & checks / sensor cleans each year
There is a Silver CPS at $75/y
HowaboutRAW... ISO 3200 is my limit unless I'm really desperate in low light shots. Anyway, just appreciating SJ comments mate. It's tempting though. you know what, recently i feel like using/going back to old style stuff... nostalgic feel. I miss my Minolta SLRs plus the emotion that came with it compared with my digital stuff.
Astrid A: Just a thought. How come nothing in the testing procedure is the same when you look up the "auto focus" sections of the 7D II and the 70D. Would be interesting to see the 70D:s tests beeing performed on the 7D II, especially since the conventional AF of the 70D seems to be surprisingly inaccutate, and inconsistent.
Astrid, off sensor AF like PDAF would be inaccurate compared to on sensor CDAF. Some lenses would be accurate and some would require some adjustments. you can use the in camera micro adjustment to do the adjustments. There is no point doing this test unless each lenses are adjusted. And this could vary from one body to another... just sharing my experience.
I really miss the film days. It was quality framing and trying to get quality shots because you can't just check and delete shots plus the 36 shots runs out and you have to spend time swapping film roles.I had the EOSM with 22mm F2 lens for a brief moment. solid built and the shots were great. no sure why there were so many negative comments for the price. Try finding a fix lens camera with F2 (35mm Eq 35.2mm) lens for this price.
Joo Prates: TOP TEN DPR GOLD AWARD:
- 5 NIKON CAMERAS- 2 PANASONIC CAMERAS- 2 FUJI CAMERAS- 1 CANON CAMERA
Being a Canonist this is the reason of my disapointement with Canon, because this objective scores are the result of Canon trade, marketing and product development policy.
Joo prates, out of the 5 Nikon... some of these releases are more for ironing out bug fixes e.g. D610. If you look at Fuji and Oly, they release new FW which includes new features. shouldn't these cameras with new features be reviewed to?
HowaboutRAW: There's a camera with no flare?
HFLM, shouldn't one choose a safer purchase option and if they're the 0.1% of effected buyer, they can change their camera with ease by opting to purchase over the counter.
HowaboutRAW, don't you think that the D750 one looks horrible? I think the safe option to purchase one is to go down to the local store, so that you can test, nego plus prep them about the possibility of return VS. online purchase.
Pro grade for Canon and Nikon point other than mechanical quality is also related with support structure. Not all DSLR models fall under this support structure.I think (needs to be verified) from legal stand point, Canon and Nikon could use these to their advantage to mitigate lawsuits due to the type of equipment failure by pro who uses non pro grade for commercial use.
ttran88: Just thinking about these "flare gate" comments and thought to my self how I would rather have flare than a outdated sensor in my camera.
Odd wish. There are some info floating in the net but the best approach is for one to test it. Low risk purchase approach would be to go down to your local store to test, nego and buy the camera.Talk to the dealer about the issue and prep them that you may return the camera if there are issues. Most online stores would accept returns but you have to go through the motion of packing, return, wait for new and test again... to much hassle.
HowaboutRAW, you're right about other cameras but have a look at these video. There is one compared with D600.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LynWn0DvdO0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V68MVEEgp5shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYoFcJbPPQ4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKxrzX2bFvM
Mike FL: Recall? It was OIL_Leaking, and now is FLARE.
Will Nikon recall/fix this D750's FLARE as Nikon did for OIL_Leaking before?
BTW: Leica/Pana need looking into LX100's FLARE problem too to find the cause and possibly fix it in the next batch.
nerd2... can't find it. send the web link/s.I didn't see your next question...Yes i had SLR and now I have DSLR. Flare is present depending on where the sun/light plus hood usage. Sometimes I intentionally like to have it in my shots but nothing like D750 type.I honestly think D750 is a good camera, I played with it in my dealers place. When I changed system 2 years ago, i was deciding between D600 and 6D. I liked 6D colour and low light shots... went for it. For me, colour is important and I like what I see from D750 shots.
sandy b: Good articles here:
Bottom line? others do it too, perhaps not as, but the shots are still ruined.
Still a gold camera.
nerd2... if you say so
K E Hoffman: So Gary Fong has outlined something I have not seen anywhere.. That the 7DII has to have a wide open aperture, 1/1000 sec or faster shutter and no tracking for 10 FPS.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZssaQk706U&feature=youtu.be
And even then he wasn't getting 10 FPS. I know talking with Barney several days ago say.. what happens if you compare to the 6 month old A77M2 vs the 2 year old D1700 the Sony has 12 FPS (has been measured up to 14or 15) Barney pointed out there were limitations to the Sony 12 FPS mode. It appears there similar but more restrictive limitations on the 7DII I had not heard mentioned. like turning off tracking. the limitation come from the manual.. but I would like to know what actual FPS DPR gets in some well set up tests. Not sure how careful Gary was in his test.
If one is not familiar with this camera, you'll struggle to get the right shots. I have been going through this camera and finally getting to grip on this camera. For outdoor high speed shots with 10 fps, set one of the Cn with settings: slow/min shutter 1/1000, iTR OFF, AI SERVO, etc plus use the DOF and AF button for different AF type. so that one can easily switch to this type shots ASAP.Also, adjust your lens (in camera micro adjust) prior use. Somehow, found wide angle AF was off for most cases.
Pat, you're right but all cameras has some cons. Take 7D2, DR on low ISO is not it's strength. it's known to many even before the production version was out. DPR spend a lot of time to demo that. it was like hitting a dead snake (from effort point of view) but yet people do buy it because of the other strengths of the camera.